installing python on a server?

[John Salerno]

Can anyone tell me how complicated it might be to install Python on my
server so I can use it for web apps? Is it a one-time process, or
something to maintain?

Thanks.

[Rene Pijlman]

John Salerno:

Can anyone tell me how complicated it might be to install Python on my
server so I can use it for web apps?
2 on a scale from 1 to 10.
Is it a one-time process, or something to maintain?

Both :-)

I installed Python 2.2 - 2.4 from source on Linux with no problem
whatsoever. I now plan about 5 minutes installation time per new release,
that's 2 minutes to make coffee, 2 minutes to skim the release notes and
README and 1 minute to watch ./configure; make; make install do it's
magic.

There are some details to watch out for, such as having the required
libraries and include files around before installation, to enable specific
functionality (e.g. SSL support in socket). But that's no big deal.

--
René Pijlman

[John Salerno]

Rene Pijlman wrote:

John Salerno:

Can anyone tell me how complicated it might be to install Python on my
server so I can use it for web apps?

2 on a scale from 1 to 10.

Is it a one-time process, or something to maintain?

Both :-)

I installed Python 2.2 - 2.4 from source on Linux with no problem
whatsoever. I now plan about 5 minutes installation time per new release,
that's 2 minutes to make coffee, 2 minutes to skim the release notes and
README and 1 minute to watch ./configure; make; make install do it's
magic.

There are some details to watch out for, such as having the required
libraries and include files around before installation, to enable specific
functionality (e.g. SSL support in socket). But that's no big deal.

Hmm, sounds easy, yet I don't know where to start. What do I actually
use to install it onto the server? I've never dealt with server stuff
before, so I might not be familiar with the terminology.

[Renato]

You mentioned using python for web apps: with which framework?
(TurboGears, CherryPy, Subway, Django, whatever) Or only for cgi?

With which web server? (Apache, Twisted, Zope, etc.)

On which linux platform? (Slackware, Debian, Fedora/RedHat, Suse, etc)

I think you'll have to think about other questions before.

On systems with package management (pretty much all of them, except
Slack) install is a matter of a few commands. And you can automate it,
obviously.

--
bye,
Renato

[Rene Pijlman]

John Salerno:

Hmm, sounds easy, yet I don't know where to start.

try:
browser.browse(http://www.python.org/download/)
package = download(yourPl atform)
package.unpack( )
exec(README.rea d())
except:
post specifics

--
René Pijlman

[3c273]

"Renato" <re************ @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ g44g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .
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On systems with package management (pretty much all of them, except
Slack) install is a matter of a few commands. And you can automate it,
obviously.

Slackware has package management, (pkgtool, installpkg, removepkg,
upgradepkg), it just doesn't do dependency checking.
http://www.slackbook.org/html/package-management.html
Louis

[John Salerno]

Renato wrote:

You mentioned using python for web apps: with which framework?
(TurboGears, CherryPy, Subway, Django, whatever) Or only for cgi?

With which web server? (Apache, Twisted, Zope, etc.)

On which linux platform? (Slackware, Debian, Fedora/RedHat, Suse, etc)

I think you'll have to think about other questions before.

On systems with package management (pretty much all of them, except
Slack) install is a matter of a few commands. And you can automate it,
obviously.

Yikes, that's all the stuff I don't know. Maybe this is over my head
right now.

[Terry Hancock]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:22:07 GMT
John Salerno <jo******@NOSPA Mgmail.com> wrote:

Can anyone tell me how complicated it might be to install
Python on my server so I can use it for web apps? Is it a
one-time process, or something to maintain?

Installing Python on a server is really, really easy. At
least it is if you have root privileges and a reasonably
well-known platform to install on.

*USING* the Python installation for web applications is a
bit more complicated -- you have many choices about how to
do that.

For my money, the easy way if you are mostly wanting to make
web applications is to use Zope. It has a big up-front
learning curve, but once you get to know it, maintaining
scripts becomes trivially easy to do.

If you have other constraints on your server, or you really
just want a static site with a few dynamic elements, you
might be better served with a lighter-weight package than
Zope, and there's maybe a dozen different ones to choose
from. Easier to learn, but probably more work in the long
run if you have to do a lot of script work on your site.

--
Terry Hancock (ha*****@Anansi Spaceworks.com)
Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com

[Peter Hansen]

John Salerno wrote:

Can anyone tell me how complicated it might be to install Python on my
server so I can use it for web apps? Is it a one-time process, or
something to maintain?

I'm not sure what you would expect to maintain. Do you expect some kind
of "bit-rot" to occur, requiring you to periodically rewrite files
in-place to refresh them (ala "core memory" of ages past)? ;-)

Generally speaking one needs to maintain software only to upgrade or
reconfigure it (e.g. adding a new package that you'd like to start using
in your web apps).

-Peter

[John Salerno]

Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:02:46 -0500, John Salerno
<jo******@NOSPA Mgmail.com> declaimed the following in comp.lang.pytho n:

Yikes, that's all the stuff I don't know. Maybe this is over my head
right now.

Let's start with something simple then... Do you have admin (root)
privileges on this server machine -- or is it a machine belonging to
some ISP and you are hoping to add Python/CGI capability?

I guess it might be the latter. What I want is to add Python capability
to the server where my website is running, so that I can write Python
web apps and incorporate them into my HTML files.