I've been programming in Python for 5 or more years now and whenever I
want a quick-n-dirty GUI, I use Tkinter. This is partly because it's
the first toolkit I learnt, but also because it's part of the standard
Python distribution and therefore easy to get Python apps to work
cross platform - it usually requires almost no porting effort.
However, when I need a little bit more grunt, I tend to turn to Tix,
which I thought was also fairly standard. However, this week, I wrote
a Tix application under Linux which I'd really like to work on Mac OS
and it's proving fairly painful to get it going. There is no Tix in
the standard fink or apt repositories and when I download a tar-ball,
it wouldn't build because it had a lot of unmet dependencies. I then
read a post which said that only Tkinter/Python people really use Tix
anymore and people in tcl/tk moved onto better toolkits long ago.
My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
be using for quick-n-dirty cross platform GUI development? I guess
this is tangentially related to: http://groups.google.com/group/comp....ed0d40ffd0b1c0
I hope this isn't a stupid question. I'm wearing flame retardant
underwear.
Peter
Oct 12 '07
29  1996 
Alexandre Badez wrote:
Personnaly, I use PyQt simply because I prefere Qt to Gtk, witch is
much more integrated with all desktop than Gtk.
In fact, your application in Qt on Mac, Win or Linux look like a
native app.
Qt doesn't look very native on my desktop. In fact, Qt apps have always
looked out of place on a Gnome desktop.
On Windows and Mac, no question, they look pretty native. You do have
to take pains to make the app "feel" native, though. Like follow the UI
guidelines of the platform, etc.
>
Just a question of "feeling" I think; because most of those GUI
framework, offer quiet the same functionality.
>
Hello,
I would recommend pyGTK http://www.pygtk.org/
- your app does look the same on all platform (like for Tkinter) (This
argurment apply if the same user would like to run the same app on
different platform and thus do not want to see something different on
each platform...)
- easy to install on all platform:
An all in one installed exist for windows: http://aruiz.typepad.com/siliconisla...ne_win32_.html
- it looks nice and simple (it is originally the Gimp toolkit).
Just my two cents,
David
2007/10/12, ps******@google mail.com <ps******@googl email.com>:
I've been programming in Python for 5 or more years now and whenever I
want a quick-n-dirty GUI, I use Tkinter. This is partly because it's
the first toolkit I learnt, but also because it's part of the standard
Python distribution and therefore easy to get Python apps to work
cross platform - it usually requires almost no porting effort.
However, when I need a little bit more grunt, I tend to turn to Tix,
which I thought was also fairly standard. However, this week, I wrote
a Tix application under Linux which I'd really like to work on Mac OS
and it's proving fairly painful to get it going. There is no Tix in
the standard fink or apt repositories and when I download a tar-ball,
it wouldn't build because it had a lot of unmet dependencies. I then
read a post which said that only Tkinter/Python people really use Tix
anymore and people in tcl/tk moved onto better toolkits long ago.
My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
be using for quick-n-dirty cross platform GUI development? I guess
this is tangentially related to:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....ed0d40ffd0b1c0
I hope this isn't a stupid question. I'm wearing flame retardant
underwear.
Peter
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On 2007-10-13, David Tremouilles <da********@gma il.comwrote:
I would recommend pyGTK http://www.pygtk.org/
Native GTK on OSX is still in its infancy. For early adopters only at
this point. See http://www.oreillynet.com/articles/author/2414
That leaves PyQt and WxPython as the only other realistic choices.
Licensing issues aside, I think Qt has the most polished and well
thought out API. The OSX Tiger dev tools include WxPython, though you
may want to install a newer version. I suggest installing both and
trying some of the included examples.
Another possibility is Jython, if you like the Java way of doing
things.
Dave Cook
No issue with pygtk on mac!
Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
too).
Of course native GTK on OSX could be nice but definitely not needed at
this point in time.
David
2007/10/13, Dave Cook <da******@nowhe re.net>:
On 2007-10-13, David Tremouilles <da********@gma il.comwrote:
I would recommend pyGTK http://www.pygtk.org/
Native GTK on OSX is still in its infancy. For early adopters only at
this point. See
http://www.oreillynet.com/articles/author/2414
That leaves PyQt and WxPython as the only other realistic choices.
Licensing issues aside, I think Qt has the most polished and well
thought out API. The OSX Tiger dev tools include WxPython, though you
may want to install a newer version. I suggest installing both and
trying some of the included examples.
Another possibility is Jython, if you like the Java way of doing
things.
Dave Cook
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On 2007-10-13, David Tremouilles <da********@gma il.comwrote:
No issue with pygtk on mac!
If running on top of X11 is no problem.
Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
too).
In that case I'd recommend kiwi as well http://www.async.com.br/projects/kiwi/
Dave Cook
David Tremouilles wrote:
No issue with pygtk on mac!
Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
too).
Of course native GTK on OSX could be nice but definitely not needed at
this point in time.
"Native" Gtk on the Mac still isn't really native. I tried a "native"
build of Wireshark and was very disappointed. Yes, it uses Quartz/Aqua
instead of X to draw Windows, but it completely ignores other Aqua
interface conventions--the menu is still attached to each window instead
of at the top of the screen, buttons aren't Aqua buttons, and so on.
Based on what I've seen, I don't think Gtk is really viable as a native
Mac development environment; it looks as weird as Fltk, which also uses
Aqua windowing but which also draws its own widgets and puts the menubar
on each window.
Tk does much better; while it's not very pretty, menubars are in the
correct place and buttons work correctly.
--
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com
David Tremouilles wrote:
No issue with pygtk on mac!
Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
too).
Of course native GTK on OSX could be nice but definitely not needed at
this point in time.
"Native" Gtk on the Mac still isn't really native. I tried a "native"
build of Wireshark and was very disappointed. Yes, it uses Quartz/Aqua
instead of X to draw Windows, but it completely ignores other Aqua
interface conventions--the menu is still attached to each window instead
of at the top of the screen, buttons aren't Aqua buttons, and so on.
Based on what I've seen, I don't think Gtk is really viable as a native
Mac development environment; it looks as weird as Fltk, which also uses
Aqua windowing but which also draws its own widgets and puts the menubar
on each window.
Tk does much better; while it's not very pretty, menubars are in the
correct place and buttons work correctly.
--
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com
David Tremouilles schrieb:
No issue with pygtk on mac!
Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
too).
Of course native GTK on OSX could be nice but definitely not needed at
this point in time.
It sure looks crappy in comparison to the rest of the OSX apps - and
given that with Qt (and of course the brilliant PyObjc-bridge) there
exist options that look & feel waaay better, I wouldn't consider using GTK.
"crappy", "waaay better"
I will not feed the troll...
Pygtk on mac just do the work for me on a more than satisfying way.
David
2007/10/13, Diez B. Roggisch <de***@nospam.w eb.de>:
David Tremouilles schrieb:
No issue with pygtk on mac!
Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
too).
Of course native GTK on OSX could be nice but definitely not needed at
this point in time.
It sure looks crappy in comparison to the rest of the OSX apps - and
given that with Qt (and of course the brilliant PyObjc-bridge) there
exist options that look & feel waaay better, I wouldn't consider using GTK.
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:34:14 +0200, Michael L Torrie
<to*****@chem.b yu.eduwrote:
[snip]
You do have
to take pains to make the app "feel" native, though. Like follow the UI
guidelines of the platform, etc.
You're absolutely right; I just wanted to add a precision: it's true for
every toolkit, not only Qt...
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