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I just had a link to Tim peters first post on doctest:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....57cfb7b3772763
removed from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctest as it doesn't fit
their guidelines for external links.
I wonder, could maybe the official website be persuaded to host a copy
so that it could be linked to?

Tim, would you object?

- Paddy.

Mar 21 '07 #1
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On 21 Mar 2007 12:18:50 -0700, Paddy <pa*******@goog lemail.comwrote :
I just had a link to Tim peters first post on doctest:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....57cfb7b3772763
.....

AFAIK, Google doesn't offer a permalink to usenet/group post (since a
mayor "upgrade" they made some time ago). So this link may change in
the future and point to somewhere else.

Best,
SB.
Mar 21 '07 #2
"Paddy" <pa*******@goog lemail.comwrite s:
I just had a link to Tim peters first post on doctest:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....57cfb7b3772763
removed from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctest as it doesn't fit
their guidelines for external links.
I wonder, could maybe the official website be persuaded to host a copy
so that it could be linked to?

Tim, would you object?
It (wikipedia) is a wiki, why not edit the page and paste it in?
John
Mar 21 '07 #3
On Mar 21, 8:20 pm, j...@pobox.com (John J. Lee) wrote:
"Paddy" <paddy3...@goog lemail.comwrite s:
I just had a link to Tim peters first post on doctest:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....57cfb7b3772763
removed fromhttp://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Doctestas it doesn't fit
their guidelines for external links.
I wonder, could maybe the official website be persuaded to host a copy
so that it could be linked to?
Tim, would you object?

It (wikipedia) is a wiki, why not edit the page and paste it in?

John
They have rules, and periodically trawl pages and clean them. I'd like
to stay within the rules.

- Paddy.

Mar 21 '07 #4
"Paddy" <pa*******@goog lemail.comwrite s:
I just had a link to Tim peters first post on doctest:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....57cfb7b3772763
removed from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctest as it doesn't fit
their guidelines for external links.
Just sit tight for a while. It looks like someone went a bit
overboard removing those links with a bot, and is now in the process
of putting them back.
Mar 21 '07 #5
In article <11************ **********@y66g 2000hsf.googleg roups.com>,
Paddy <pa*******@goog lemail.comwrote :
>On Mar 21, 8:20 pm, j...@pobox.com (John J. Lee) wrote:
>"Paddy" <paddy3...@goog lemail.comwrite s:
I just had a link to Tim peters first post on doctest:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....57cfb7b3772763
removed fromhttp://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Doctestas it doesn't fit
their guidelines for external links.
I wonder, could maybe the official website be persuaded to host a copy
so that it could be linked to?
Tim, would you object?

It (wikipedia) is a wiki, why not edit the page and paste it in?

John

They have rules, and periodically trawl pages and clean them. I'd like
to stay within the rules.

- Paddy.
Phaseit would be honored to memorialize a permanent URL for
that post, or even the thread from which it's taken. Is that
an appropriate resolution, Paddy?
Mar 21 '07 #6
"Paddy" <pa*******@goog lemail.comwrite s:
On Mar 21, 8:20 pm, j...@pobox.com (John J. Lee) wrote:
"Paddy" <paddy3...@goog lemail.comwrite s:
I just had a link to Tim peters first post on doctest:
>http://groups.google.com/group/comp....57cfb7b3772763
removed fromhttp://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Doctestas it doesn't fit
their guidelines for external links.
I wonder, could maybe the official website be persuaded to host a copy
so that it could be linked to?
Tim, would you object?
It (wikipedia) is a wiki, why not edit the page and paste it in?

John

They have rules, and periodically trawl pages and clean them. I'd like
to stay within the rules.
Which rule would pasting in the post break?

You've explained that *linking* to a non-permanent URL would break the
rules. You haven't explained why *pasting in* the text of the post
would break the rules (I don't say it wouldn't break them, I'm just
curious).
John
Mar 22 '07 #7
jj*@pobox.com (John J. Lee) writes:
You've explained that *linking* to a non-permanent URL would break the
rules. You haven't explained why *pasting in* the text of the post
would break the rules (I don't say it wouldn't break them, I'm just
curious).
I've looked into this situation and I advise just not worrying about
it for now. The link is likely to be restored pretty soon if it
hasn't been already. If not, wait a day or two and then put it back.
It was removed along with a zillion other Usenet links because someone
got overzealous about spam reversion and turned an automatic script
loose that removed all such links indiscriminatel y, including a lot
that there wasn't anything wrong with. There was a discussion on the
wiki about it, the person stopped the script, and is now (slowly)
undoing the script's removals.
Mar 22 '07 #8
On Mar 21, 8:39 pm, Paul Rubin <http://phr...@NOSPAM.i nvalidwrote:
"Paddy" <paddy3...@goog lemail.comwrite s:
I just had a link to Tim peters first post on doctest:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....57cfb7b3772763
removed fromhttp://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Doctestas it doesn't fit
their guidelines for external links.

Just sit tight for a while. It looks like someone went a bit
overboard removing those links with a bot, and is now in the process
of putting them back.
I could not wait, and have just reverted the page.

Thanks guys.

- Paddy.

P.S. Now all I need is the time to reorganize The Duck Typing entry -
The Explanation in the Talk section is better than the article
itself :-)

Mar 22 '07 #9
On Mar 21, 10:31 pm, cla...@lairds.u s (Cameron Laird) wrote:
In article <1174508599.250 404.176...@y66g 2000hsf.googleg roups.com>,

Paddy <paddy3...@goog lemail.comwrote :
On Mar 21, 8:20 pm, j...@pobox.com (John J. Lee) wrote:
"Paddy" <paddy3...@goog lemail.comwrite s:
I just had a link to Tim peters first post on doctest:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....57cfb7b3772763
removed fromhttp://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Doctestasit doesn't fit
their guidelines for external links.
I wonder, could maybe the official website be persuaded to host a copy
so that it could be linked to?
Tim, would you object?
It (wikipedia) is a wiki, why not edit the page and paste it in?
John
They have rules, and periodically trawl pages and clean them. I'd like
to stay within the rules.
- Paddy.

Phaseit would be honored to memorialize a permanent URL for
that post, or even the thread from which it's taken. Is that
an appropriate resolution, Paddy?
Thanks Cameron for the kind offer, but after Paul Ruben made me aware
that the initial edit was done by a rogue 'bot, I reverted the page to
its prior state.

Maybe, if you email Tim, he might welcome you adding his post to your
site anyway? - I think its wasted just being available as a newsgroup
search, and should at least be available somewhere on the official
Python website. Doctest is a great idea that is in harmony with the
language it is expressed in.

- Paddy.

Mar 22 '07 #10

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