Since I haven't used Python at work, I am using Python 2.5 right now.
However I wonder, how fast are you guys moving from version to version
at work? As an illustration my ex-company just moved to Java 5, which
was released around... what, 2-3 years ago? (While I am running Java 6
at home)
Is it the same in the Python world? What version of Python is used in,
say, Google? Is it even 2.4 yet?
Aug 29 '06
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Aahz <aa**@pythoncra ft.comwrote:
My company uses 2.2 and 2.3; we hope to drop 2.2 Real Soon Now.
This has been an interesting thread. There has been some discussion
on python-dev about doing another 2.3 bugfix release. Based on the
number of people still using 2.3, it looks to me like there would be
interest.
Neil
In article <vMrJg.484475$M n5.394204@pd7tw 3no>,
Neil Schemenauer <na*@arctrix.co mwrote:
>Aahz <aa**@pythoncra ft.comwrote:
>>
My company uses 2.2 and 2.3; we hope to drop 2.2 Real Soon Now.
This has been an interesting thread. There has been some discussion
on python-dev about doing another 2.3 bugfix release. Based on the
number of people still using 2.3, it looks to me like there would be
interest.
Yes; the real question is whether there is enough labor available to
make it happen.
--
Aahz (aa**@pythoncra ft.com) <* http://www.pythoncraft.com/
I support the RKAB
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:01:02PM -0700, Aahz wrote:
In article <vMrJg.484475$M n5.394204@pd7tw 3no>,
Neil Schemenauer <na*@arctrix.co mwrote:
Aahz <aa**@pythoncra ft.comwrote:
>
My company uses 2.2 and 2.3; we hope to drop 2.2 Real Soon Now.
This has been an interesting thread. There has been some discussion
on python-dev about doing another 2.3 bugfix release. Based on the
number of people still using 2.3, it looks to me like there would be
interest.
Yes; the real question is whether there is enough labor available to
make it happen.
I came away from the thread with the opposite conclusion for similar
reasons. People would use a 2.3.6 if their OS upgraded it for them but
those are the same people who won't upgrade to 2.4.x because it involves
testing. 2.3.5 isn't broken for them or they would know it by now.
2.3.6 probably isn't broken for them but it can't help -- or they would
have noticed a bug by now.
My own servers jumped from 2.2 to 2.4 for the same reason everyone else
has given for an upgrade. We just happened to have time in the dev
cycle to do testing and did it on the version that was available (2.4.1)
at that time.
-Jack
Ray wrote:
Since I haven't used Python at work, I am using Python 2.5 right now.
However I wonder, how fast are you guys moving from version to version
at work? As an illustration my ex-company just moved to Java 5, which
was released around... what, 2-3 years ago? (While I am running Java 6
at home)
Is it the same in the Python world? What version of Python is used in,
say, Google? Is it even 2.4 yet?
Heya, here at my job 2.3 is a must , but the code *should* be as
compatible as possible with 2.2 too.
JackI came away from the thread with the opposite conclusion for
Jacksimilar reasons. People would use a 2.3.6 if their OS upgraded it
Jackfor them but those are the same people who won't upgrade to 2.4.x
Jackbecause it involves testing. 2.3.5 isn't broken for them or they
Jackwould know it by now. 2.3.6 probably isn't broken for them but it
Jackcan't help -- or they would have noticed a bug by now.
In contrast, I generally do only a small amount of testing when a micro
release of Python comes out before inflicting it on our users and
developers, precisely because I have confidence that it only contains bug
fixes. Since probably 2.2.1 there have been no new features in any micro
releases that I can recall and, up to this point at least, no regressions in
my experience. Micro updates seem like a pretty safe bet to me.
Skip
(ack! forgot to push the send button several days ago - hopefully this isn't
woefully out-of-date now...)
neilBased on the number of people still using 2.3, it looks to me like
neilthere would be interest.
aahzYes; the real question is whether there is enough labor available
aahzto make it happen.
Just to make it clear for people with an interest in another 2.3 release who
might not read python-dev, here's what needs to happen. Someone(s) needs to
consider which bug fixes applied to 2.4 (and maybe CVS head) since the last
2.3 release should be applied to the 2.3 branch. That entails a few steps:
1. scan the 2.4 checkins for bug fixes (scanning Misc/NEWS might be
sufficient)
2. decide which ones apply to the 2.3 branch (some might not if they
were bugs that were introduced in 2.4 or because code structure
changes would make it too painful to add to 2.3)
3. work up a patch with test cases against the 2.3 code (simplified by
starting with the 2.4 patch in most cases) that implements the fix
4. test the 2.3 branch as patches are applied to make sure there are no
regressions against your own code base.
All these steps are necessary to some degree, though one person doesn't have
to do all four steps for any given bug fix. Any help you can give would be
appreciated.
Skip
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