I'm just learning about Python now and it sounds interesting. But I
just read (on the Wiki page) that mainstream Python was written in C.
That's what I was searching for: Python was written in what other
language?
See, my concern was something like: OK, if Python is so hot, then,
hopefully someone is writing it in assembly language for each MPU chip
out there. Otherwise, if, say, they've written it in C#, then it looks
like the REAL, generally useful language to learn is C# and Python is
akin to Visual Basic or something: a specialty language....whe reas
REAL WORLD programmers who want to be generally useful go and learn
C#.
So I was suspecting the Python compiler or interpreter is written in a
REAL language like C#. So, Wiki says it's written in C! It's almost as
if it were an intentional trick...write your own, new language in an
OLD, real world language that is passe. Compile it into executable
modules of course, so it is a real, working compiler, alright. But the
SOURCE is some old, high level language which no one wants to use
anymore! So now you've got a hot new language package and no one can
say "well, it is written in, the SOURCE code is written in, a REAL
language." No, it's not! The source is some outdated language and
compiler and no one is going to prefer learning THAT to learning your
hot new language!
I'm not dissing Python, here. Just noting that, if it is written in C,
that throws a curve at me in trying to balance the value of learning
Python vs. some other major language. 61 6954 gi************* *@gmail.com wrote:
I'm just learning about Python now and it sounds interesting. But I
just read (on the Wiki page) that mainstream Python was written in C.
That's what I was searching for: Python was written in what other
language?
See, my concern was something like: OK, if Python is so hot, then,
hopefully someone is writing it in assembly language for each MPU chip
out there. Otherwise, if, say, they've written it in C#, then it looks
like the REAL, generally useful language to learn is C# and Python is
akin to Visual Basic or something: a specialty language....whe reas
REAL WORLD programmers who want to be generally useful go and learn
C#.
Psst. What language do you think the primary implementations of C# is
written in?
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On Jul 20, 5:50�pm, giveitawhril2.. .@gmail.com wrote:
I'm just learning about Python now and it sounds interesting. But I
just read (on the Wiki page) that mainstream Python was written in C.
That's what I was searching for: Python was written in what other
language?
See, my concern was something like: OK, if Python is so hot, then,
hopefully someone is writing it in assembly language for each MPU chip
out there. Otherwise, if, say, they've written it in C#, then it looks
like the REAL, generally useful language to learn is C# and Python is
akin to Visual Basic or something: a specialty language....whe reas
REAL WORLD programmers who want to be generally useful go and learn
C#.
Python is for people who want to program, not REAL WORLD
programmers.
>
So I was suspecting the Python compiler or interpreter is written in a
REAL language like C#. So, Wiki says it's written in C! It's almost as
if it were an intentional trick...write your own, new language in an
OLD, real world language that is passe. Compile it into executable
modules of course, so it is a real, working compiler, alright. But the
SOURCE is some old, high level language
C isn't a high level language, that's part of its problem.
which no one wants to use
anymore! So now you've got a hot new language package and no one can
say "well, it is written in, the SOURCE code is written in, a REAL
language." No, it's not! The source is some outdated language and
compiler and no one is going to prefer learning THAT to learning your
hot new language!
I'm not dissing Python, here.
Yes, you are.
Just noting that, if it is written in C,
that throws a curve at me in trying to balance the value of learning
Python vs. some other major language.
Then go learn C, nobody's stopping you.
In article
<a9************ *************** *******@59g2000 hsb.googlegroup s.com>,
Mensanator <me********@aol .comwrote:
C isn't a high level language, that's part of its problem.
C is the highest level assembler language I've ever used. And I've used a
few. It really is cool that you can add two 32-bit integers and not have
to worry about all those carry bits.
On Jul 21, 8:50 am, giveitawhril2.. .@gmail.com wrote:
I'm just learning about Python now and it sounds interesting. But I
just read (on the Wiki page) that mainstream Python was written in C.
That's what I was searching for: Python was written in what other
language?
See, my concern was something like: OK, if Python is so hot, then,
hopefully someone is writing it in assembly language for each MPU chip
out there.
Why do that, when gcc has a code generator for just about every MPU
chip out there?
Otherwise, if, say, they've written it in C#, then it looks
like the REAL, generally useful language to learn is C#
A bit of a non sequitur .... and C# is available on how many different
MPU chips?
and Python is
akin to Visual Basic
<chuckle/>
or something: a specialty language
....whereas
REAL WORLD programmers who want to be generally useful go and learn
C#.
?
>
So I was suspecting the Python compiler or interpreter is written in a
REAL language like C#. So, Wiki says it's written in C! It's almost as
if it were an intentional trick...write your own, new language in an
OLD, real world language that is passe. Compile it into executable
modules of course, so it is a real, working compiler, alright. But the
SOURCE is some old, high level language which no one wants to use
anymore!
Nobody wants to use C any more?
So now you've got a hot new language package and no one can
say "well, it is written in, the SOURCE code is written in, a REAL
language." No, it's not! The source is some outdated language and
compiler and no one is going to prefer learning THAT to learning your
hot new language!
I'm not dissing Python, here. Just noting that, if it is written in C,
that throws a curve at me in trying to balance the value of learning
Python vs. some other major language.
It should be sublimely irrelevant to most people learning LanguageX
what language LanguageX is written in.
Some other implementations of Python: PyPy (written in Python), Jython
(written in Java) and IronPython (written in C#).
On Jul 20, 6:50*pm, giveitawhril2.. .@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not dissing Python, here. Just noting that, if it is written in C,
that throws a curve at me in trying to balance the value of learning
Python vs. some other major language.
I somehow doubt the Python community will feel much of a loss if you
decide to learn some other language.
Carl Banks gi************* *@gmail.com writes:
I'm just learning about Python now and it sounds interesting. But I
just read (on the Wiki page) that mainstream Python was written in C.
That's what I was searching for: Python was written in what other
language?
Well, yes, the interpreter and a handful of the core modules are written in C.
However, most of Python -- especially the cool bits -- aren't written in
C. They're written in ... Python!
-- Teiresias
In article <fa************ *************** *******@y38g200 0hsy.googlegrou ps.com>, gi************* *@gmail.com wrote:
I'm just learning about Python now and it sounds interesting. But I
just read (on the Wiki page) that mainstream Python was written in C.
That's what I was searching for: Python was written in what other
language?
C is the universal assembler.
Mike
On Jul 20, 7:37�pm, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com wrote:
In article
<a9620c65-49c6-4fe7-9cbe-de3779ec3...@59 g2000hsb.google groups.com>,
�Mensanator <mensana...@aol .comwrote:
C isn't a high level language, that's part of its problem.
C is the highest level assembler language
Isn't that like bragging about being the smartest
kid on the short bus?
I've ever used. �And I've used a
few. �It really is cool that you can add two 32-bit integers and not have
to worry about all those carry bits.
Carry bits? Who worries about carry bits when you have
unlimited precision arithmetic? You want cool?
THIS is cool:
j = ((invert(xyz[1]-xyz[0],xyz[1]**(k-1))*(xyz[1]**(k-1)-prev_gen[2]))
% xyz[1]**(k-1))/xyz[1]**(k-2)
Carry bits? Who worries about carry bits when you have
unlimited precision arithmetic? You want cool?
THIS is cool:
j = ((invert(xyz[1]-xyz[0],xyz[1]**(k-1))*(xyz[1]**(k-1)-prev_gen[2]))
% xyz[1]**(k-1))/xyz[1]**(k-2)
You call that "cool." I call it "unreadable ."
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