Below are 2 files that isolate the problem. Note, both programs hang
(stop responding) with hyper-threading turned on (a BIOS setting), but
work as expected with hyper-threading turned off.
Note, the Windows task manager shows 2 CPUs on the Performance tab with
hyper-threading is turned on.
Both Python 2.3.5 and 2.4.3 (downloaded from python.org) have this
problem.
The operating system is MS Windows XP Professional.
winmsd.exe shows:
2CPUs: x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~3000 MHz
Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
Could someone with a hyper-threading (or dual/multicore) CPU please
confirm this bug?
Many Thanks
Olaf
# testsleep.py
import threading
import time
class Task(threading. Thread):
def __init__(self, n, t):
threading.Threa d.__init__(self )
self.n = n
self.t = t
def run(self):
print 'thread %d started' % self.n
print 'sleep time:', self.t
print time.clock()
print time.clock()
print time.clock()
print
count = 0
printCount = int(10 / self.t)
while True:
start = time.clock()
time.sleep(self .t)
stop = time.clock()
if stop - start > 1.0:
print 'thread', self.n, stop - start
count += 1
if count > printCount:
count = 0
print self.n,
def test():
thread1 = Task(1, 0.01)
thread2 = Task(2, 0.003)
thread1.start()
thread2.start()
test()
------------------------------------------------------------------------
# testsleep2.py
import thread
import time
import sys
def run(n, t):
print 'thread %d started' % n
print 'sleep time:', t
print time.clock()
print time.clock()
print time.clock()
print
count = 0
printCount = int(10 / t)
while True:
start = time.clock()
time.sleep(t)
stop = time.clock()
if stop - start > 1.0:
print 'thread', n, stop - start
count += 1
if count > printCount:
count = 0
print n,
def test():
thread.start_ne w_thread(run, (1, 0.01))
thread.start_ne w_thread(run, (2, 0.003))
# Wait until the user presses the enter key.
sys.stdin.read( 1)
test() 17 6426 Ol********@gmai l.com wrote: Below are 2 files that isolate the problem. Note, both programs hang (stop responding) with hyper-threading turned on (a BIOS setting), but work as expected with hyper-threading turned off.
What do you mean "stop responding"? Not responding when you press
ctrl-c? They stop printing? If you mean stop printing, try
sys.stdout.flus h() after each print
[Ol********@gmai l.com] Below are 2 files that isolate the problem. Note, both programs hang (stop responding)
What does "stop responding" mean?
with hyper-threading turned on (a BIOS setting), but work as expected with hyper-threading turned off.
Note, the Windows task manager shows 2 CPUs on the Performance tab with hyper-threading is turned on.
Both Python 2.3.5 and 2.4.3 (downloaded from python.org) have this problem. The operating system is MS Windows XP Professional.
winmsd.exe shows: 2CPUs: x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~3000 MHz Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
Could someone with a hyper-threading (or dual/multicore) CPU please confirm this bug?
I don't see anything unexpected (to me) on a WinXP Pro SP2 box with HT
enabled, using 2.4.3, but I'm not sure what "not responding" means to
you.
# testsleep.py import threading import time
class Task(threading. Thread): def __init__(self, n, t): threading.Threa d.__init__(self ) self.n = n self.t = t def run(self): print 'thread %d started' % self.n print 'sleep time:', self.t print time.clock() print time.clock() print time.clock() print count = 0 printCount = int(10 / self.t) while True: start = time.clock() time.sleep(self .t) stop = time.clock() if stop - start > 1.0: print 'thread', self.n, stop - start
You don't _expect_ this print to execute, do you? It should trigger
very rarely (if ever).
count += 1 if count > printCount: count = 0 print self.n,
def test(): thread1 = Task(1, 0.01) thread2 = Task(2, 0.003) thread1.start() thread2.start()
test()
This is what happened when I ran it, until I got tired of watching it
and killed the job:
C:\Python24>pyt hon test1.py
thread 1 started
sleep time: 0.01
7.8499538238e-007
4.42770924877e-005
8.62618455186e-005
thread 2 started
sleep time: 0.003
0.0004793495332 38
0.0005219042829 16
0.0005636490373 59
1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1
2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2
1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1
# testsleep2.py import thread import time import sys
def run(n, t): print 'thread %d started' % n print 'sleep time:', t print time.clock() print time.clock() print time.clock() print count = 0 printCount = int(10 / t) while True: start = time.clock() time.sleep(t) stop = time.clock() if stop - start > 1.0: print 'thread', n, stop - start
See above.
count += 1 if count > printCount: count = 0 print n,
def test(): thread.start_ne w_thread(run, (1, 0.01)) thread.start_ne w_thread(run, (2, 0.003))
# Wait until the user presses the enter key. sys.stdin.read( 1)
Do you want someone running this test to hit the ENTER key, or not? test()
Works much the same for me, except I got bored quicker ;-):
C:\Python24>pyt hon test2..py
thread 1 started
sleep time: 0.01
1.14999323533e-006
8.01271757225e-005
thread 2 started
sleep time: 0.003
0.0003958653184 39
0.0004742598572 95
0.0005598317068 72
0.0007106134669 8
1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1
At that point I hit the ENTER key, and saw:
Unhandled exception in thread started by
Error in sys.excepthook:
Original exception was:
Unhandled exception in thread started by
Error in sys.excepthook:
Original exception was:
That's unfortunate, but not unexpected either. The interpreter
doesn't wait for a `thread` module thread to finish before tearing
itself down, so the threads keep running after Python has torn so much
of itself down that weird execptions occur -- and Python is _so_ torn
down by that point it can't even display a useful error message. The
interpreter does (by default) wait for `threading` module threads to
exit before tearing itself down, so those kinds of useless exit
messages weren't expected in the first test.
> What do you mean "stop responding"?
Both threads print their thread numbers (either 1 or 2) approximately
every 10 seconds. However, after a while (minutes to hours) both
programs (see above) hang!
Pressing ctrl-c (after the printing stops) causes the threads to "wake
up" from their sleep statement. And since the sleep took more than 1
seconds the thread number and the duration of the sleep is printed to
the screen.
Do you have a hyper-threading/dual/multi core CPU? Did you try this?
Olaf
Time
1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1
2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2
1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1
This is exactly what you should see. The problem I see is that after a
while (minutes to hours) the printing of 1s and 2s stops! If you press
ctrl-c at that point the threads will print how many seconds they were
stuck in the sleep statements (proving that the threads were stuck in
the sleep statement until you pressed ctrl-c).
Could you please try again (perhaps let it run overnight)? Many, many
thanks.
Olaf
Tim Do you want someone running this test to hit the ENTER key, or not?
The purpose of the "sys.stdin.read (1)" statement is simply to prevent
the main thread from exiting and thus ending the test. And yes, I also
get an exception when I press the enter key.
Olaf Ol********@gmai l.com wrote: What do you mean "stop responding"?
Both threads print their thread numbers (either 1 or 2) approximately every 10 seconds. However, after a while (minutes to hours) both programs (see above) hang!
Pressing ctrl-c (after the printing stops) causes the threads to "wake up" from their sleep statement. And since the sleep took more than 1 seconds the thread number and the duration of the sleep is printed to the screen.
Do you have a hyper-threading/dual/multi core CPU? Did you try this?
I don't have such CPU but I run the first program anyway. It printed
C:\py>th.py
thread 1 started
sleep time: 0.01
3.63174649292e-006
8.43682646817e-005
0.0001648254177 56
thread 2 started
sleep time: 0.003
0.0006752254825 68
0.0007534477147 24
0.0008294350259 6
1 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1
I got bored and tried to stop it with ctrl-c but it didn't respond and
kept running and printing the numbers. I had to kill it from task
manager.
Serge I got bored and tried to stop it with ctrl-c ...
Yes, you have to use the ctrl-break key to stop the first program. And
neither program every hangs on a single core CPU. It also does not
hang on a hyper-threading CPU if hyper-threading is turned off in the
BIOS.
Olaf
>> What do you mean "stop responding"?
[Ol********@gmai l.com] Both threads print their thread numbers (either 1 or 2) approximately every 10 seconds. However, after a while (minutes to hours) both programs (see above) hang!
Where "hang" means they stop printing.
Pressing ctrl-c (after the printing stops) causes the threads to "wake up" from their sleep statement. And since the sleep took more than 1 seconds the thread number and the duration of the sleep is printed to the screen.
Do you have a hyper-threading/dual/multi core CPU? Did you try this?
I was using a 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 (single core) with hyper-threading
enabled. I didn't run it for hours ;-)
But supposing I do and see a hang, it's unlikely that will have
anything to do with Python. On Windows, time.sleep() called from any
thread other than the main thread just calls the Win32 API Sleep()
function, after converting the argument to milliseconds. So it may be
more fruitful to recode your test program in C (if there is a bug
here, it's most likely in Microsoft's implementation of its Sleep()
function).
Tim I didn't run it for hours ;-)
Please try.
The sleep statement does not return! And this should not happen. The
code above does nothing special or unusual. The problem only occurs if
2 threads use the sleep statement and hyper-threading is enabled.
We discovered this bug perhaps a year ago. The only solution was to
tell our customers to disable hyper-threading (you can imagine they did
not like our "solution" very much). It then took many days of hard
work to isolate the problem down to the code I posted above.
Where "hang" means they stop printing.
Our Python code just stops running (locking up the entire application).
We use Qt for our GUI. We have over a hundred .py files. We use a
total of 4 threads (they get created once and stay running). One
thread uses sockets.
Once the application locks up (getting stuck in a sleep statement) all
comes back to live if I pull the network cable out. So perhaps the
socket thread returns from the sleep statement and other threads return
to live because they were waiting for the socket thread.
Our software runs on both Windows and Linux. We are not sure if the
problem also happens on Linux.
In any case, if someone else can confirm the bug then this is a serious
problem meriting further investigation.
We have searched the Internet far and wide and were not able to find
any information that indicates that someone else has reported a similar
problem (neither Python nor Windows Sleep related).
Thank you for your help.
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