wxPython vs. pyQt

[eholbroo]

I've narrowed down my toolkit selection for my project to wxPython and
pyQt, and now i'd like to hear any opinions, war stories, peeves, etc,
about them, particularly from anyone who's used _both_toolkits_ . I'm
only mildly interested in the IDEs and UI designers for each, as i
want to do as much as i can in just Xemacs and xterm. Feel free to
rant, rave, pontificate, whatever.

t.i.a.,
E

[Scott Frankel]

I have just started using wxPython. I selected it over pyQT for
licensing
reasons. I'm no gui app expert. But that said, I've found the toolkit
approachable and the user community very helpful.

Scott

On Mar 16, 2005, at 9:11 PM, eh******@kausti nr.r.com wrote:

I've narrowed down my toolkit selection for my project to wxPython and
pyQt, and now i'd like to hear any opinions, war stories, peeves, etc,
about them, particularly from anyone who's used _both_toolkits_ . I'm
only mildly interested in the IDEs and UI designers for each, as i
want to do as much as i can in just Xemacs and xterm. Feel free to
rant, rave, pontificate, whatever.

t.i.a.,
E
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http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[Simon John]

I used to be a wxPython lover, but it was mainly due to the crappy PyQt
licensing terms, rather than any merits of wx (although I like the
native LnF).

After trying to do a large-ish project using wxPython, I found that I
was limited by the lack of widgets and the layout system.

My latest project was in PyQt, after Trolltech announced that Qt4 will
have a GPL version for Windows (and Riverbank said they will make a
PyQt to go with it eventually).

I usually hate visual GUI IDEs, but I found QtDesigner to be a real
asset, much better than wxDesigner or VisualStudio. The threading
implementation also seems superior (easier?) to Python's own too, and
making custom widgets is easy enough, even with a Python wrapper.

Also, the Cygwin guys have ported the GPL/Linux Qt to Windows, so you
can use that for Qt3.3 until Trolltech come up with Qt4.

Links:
http://kscraft.sourceforge.net/conve...-install.xhtml
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/qt3-win32/
http://www.pycs.net/lateral/stories/27.html

[Giovanni Bajo]

eh******@kausti nr.r.com wrote:

I've narrowed down my toolkit selection for my project to wxPython and
pyQt, and now i'd like to hear any opinions, war stories, peeves, etc,
about them, particularly from anyone who's used _both_toolkits_ . I'm
only mildly interested in the IDEs and UI designers for each, as i
want to do as much as i can in just Xemacs and xterm. Feel free to
rant, rave, pontificate, whatever.

I have used both. I find PyQT is vastly superior than wxPython for a number of
reasons, including overall better design of the library, total flexibility and
orthogonality of provided features, incredible portability. I would suggest
wxPython only if you cannot meet PyQt license requirements (and this is going
to change soon, since Qt4 will have a GPL version for Windows too).
--
Giovanni Bajo

[tc]

Has anyone compiled binaries for qt/pyqt/eric3. i'd really like to try
it. at the moment i work with wxWindows and BoaConstructor which i'm
actually not so happy with. design of gui's with wx is not very
efficient...

so is there already a binary for qt/pyqt/eric3 available or when can i
excpect qt4 to be released?
tc

[foobar]

tc wrote:

Has anyone compiled binaries for qt/pyqt/eric3. i'd really like to try it. at the moment i work with wxWindows and BoaConstructor which i'm
actually not so happy with. design of gui's with wx is not very
efficient...

so is there already a binary for qt/pyqt/eric3 available or when can i excpect qt4 to be released?
tc

Hi,
If you're on a linux fedora3/suse 9.2 platform you can give a try to:

pyvm.sourceforg e.net
regards,
antonio

[Ken Godee]

tc wrote:

Has anyone compiled binaries for qt/pyqt/eric3. i'd really like to try
it. at the moment i work with wxWindows and BoaConstructor which i'm
actually not so happy with. design of gui's with wx is not very
efficient...

so is there already a binary for qt/pyqt/eric3 available or when can i
excpect qt4 to be released?
tc

http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/

apt/yum/etc. repositories

qt-3.3.3-16.3.3.kde.i386 .rpm
sip-4.1.1-0.2.3.kde.i386. rpm
PyQt-3.13-2.0.3.kde.i386. rpm
PyKDE-3.11.3-0.5.3.kde.i386. rpm
qscintilla-1.4-0.1.3.kde.i386. rpm
eric-3.6.1-0.fdr.1.3.i386. rpm

and more....

[Simon John]

"so is there already a binary for qt/pyqt/eric3 available or when can i
excpect qt4 to be released? "

I think that pyqt4 is going to be a long way off, obviously further
away than qt4.

i have compiled qt 3.3.3/pyqt 3.1.3 using mingw/vcc6 for windows using
the instructions i linked to in my previous post, both for python 2.3
and 2.4, when the kde-cygwin guys finish porting qt 3.3.4, i'm going to
have a go at pyqt 3.1.4

[RM]

Of course, the licensing terms may still be too restrictive for those
that want to create comercial closed source applications and can't
afford the comercial license of Qt. That is why, for many, wxPython
will remain the preferred choice.

Being that you are inclined use Xemacs and xterm for your development,
I don't think you will have too much trouble with either one.
Currently, I think the choice between Qt and wx boils down to this:

Type of app - Choice - Reason

GPL or Company use only app - Qt - It is easier, cleaner, etc.
Commercial Closed Source - Qt - Don't mind the license cost.
Any type - wx - It is free.

Other (lesser, I think) considerations, however, may bee the appearance
of the app. On linux/KDE you may prefer the Qt native look. On
Linux/GNOME you may prefer wx's GTK native look. On Windows, wx is
completely native, while I can't speak for Qt's look since I have never
seen it, but I know it is not completely native looking.

[Mike P.]

"RM" <ny**********@y ahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ f14g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .

Of course, the licensing terms may still be too restrictive for those
that want to create comercial closed source applications and can't
afford the comercial license of Qt. That is why, for many, wxPython
will remain the preferred choice.

Being that you are inclined use Xemacs and xterm for your development,
I don't think you will have too much trouble with either one.
Currently, I think the choice between Qt and wx boils down to this:

Type of app - Choice - Reason

GPL or Company use only app - Qt - It is easier, cleaner, etc.
Commercial Closed Source - Qt - Don't mind the license cost.
Any type - wx - It is free.

Other (lesser, I think) considerations, however, may bee the appearance
of the app. On linux/KDE you may prefer the Qt native look. On
Linux/GNOME you may prefer wx's GTK native look. On Windows, wx is
completely native, while I can't speak for Qt's look since I have never
seen it, but I know it is not completely native looking.

I use Qt under Windows and the look and feel is completely native.
The best thing to do is to judge for yourself. Trolltech's website has
example screenshots of Qt applications under X11, Windows and Mac OS X.

For example 3rd party apps, look at:
http://www.trolltech.com/products/hotnew/index.html
and http://www.trolltech.com/success/index.html

For Trolltech's Qt tools, look at:
http://www.trolltech.com/screenshots/tools.html

Personally for ease of use Qt is the way to go. I'm really looking forward
to Qt 4 coming out, and then sometime later PyQt 4. Then I'll be able to
develop with my favourite APIs (Qt, OpenGL, and OpenSceneGraph) under a
completely Python environment - heaven from a development perspective.

Mike.