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i am developing a web application and i am really confused on what should i use.
should i use just python and use the cgi module availabe.
Or should i use application like WebWare.Also there is PSP available.
I am really confused and need help
Jul 18 '05 #1
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ke***********@y ahoo.com writes:
i am developing a web application and i am really confused on what should i use.
should i use just python and use the cgi module availabe.
Or should i use application like WebWare.Also there is PSP available.
I am really confused and need help


It depends of the kind of application you want to do exactly, there are
many possibilities from cgi to zope...

Look into the archive of the list, you'll find a lot of answer to this
question. Or describe more what you need.

bye

--
Wilk - http://flibuste.net
Jul 18 '05 #2

ketulp> i am developing a web application and i am really confused on
ketulp> what should i use. should i use just python and use the cgi
ketulp> module availabe. Or should i use application like WebWare.Also
ketulp> there is PSP available. I am really confused and need help

As Wilk indicated, there are lots of options and you didn't say
much/anything about your environment or requirements for your web app. If
all your developers are mostly Python programmers, I think you might like
Quixote. If you have a diverse group of people with different skills
(programmers, web designers, marketing types), you might find Zope more to
your liking. There are tons of other options as well. It all depends...

Skip
Jul 18 '05 #3
I've was faced to the same problem few months ago. After checked lot
of different solutions, I've select Draco (draco.boskant. nl).

A framework around mod_python that offers lot of flexibility and can
be used for havy loaded web site.

One of the nicest feature is the possibility to split code and HTML.

I'm not objective, but I propose you to make your own choice amongst
all the good solutions (karrigel, albatros are very good too), but
have a look at draco.


ke***********@y ahoo.com wrote in message news:<f0******* *************** ****@posting.go ogle.com>...
i am developing a web application and i am really confused on what should i use.
should i use just python and use the cgi module availabe.
Or should i use application like WebWare.Also there is PSP available.
I am really confused and need help

Jul 18 '05 #4
|Thus Spake ketulp_barod On the now historical date of Sat, 10 Jan 2004
03:58:09 -0800|
i am developing a web application and i am really confused on what
should i use. should i use just python and use the cgi module availabe.
Or should i use application like WebWare.Also there is PSP available. I
am really confused and need help


Follow the advice given elsewhere in this thread, but also look at PHP,
which is another web-programming language. It's not difficult to pick up
if you have a grounding in C, and understand HTML, but it does have its
issues. It is best for getting web pages to talk to databases. The
nicest thing about it is that it was developed *for* creating dynamic
web-pages, so it has a good tool-box for that sort of thing.

HTH

Sam Walters.

--
Never forget the halloween documents.
http://www.opensource.org/halloween/
""" Where will Microsoft try to drag you today?
Do you really want to go there?"""

Jul 18 '05 #5
Wilk <wi******@OUTfl ibuste.net> wrote in message news:<87******* *****@blakie.ri ol>...
ke***********@y ahoo.com writes:
i am developing a web application and i am really confused on what should i use.
should i use just python and use the cgi module availabe.
Or should i use application like WebWare.Also there is PSP available.
I am really confused and need help


It depends of the kind of application you want to do exactly, there are
many possibilities from cgi to zope...

Look into the archive of the list, you'll find a lot of answer to this
question. Or describe more what you need.

bye

hey thanks for ur reply
i am developing an issue tracking system
the primary requirements are
1)it should be platform independent which i think python will take
care of
2)it should have customizable gui .I am thinking of using templates
for this like Cheetah. Is there any other better solution to Cheetah?
The problem i am facing here is i dont know what to use for
development of the application. I came across many ways to develop web
application in python which I already specified like
i)the cgi module in python
ii)Python Server Pages
iii)Quixote
iv)WebWare
v)Zope etc.
I want to choose such an environment so that i dont have to install
other softwares to run my application.For eg. I think if I develop
using zope then the client also has to install zope to run my software
and i dont want this.
Jul 18 '05 #6
ke***********@y ahoo.com writes:
Wilk <wi******@OUTfl ibuste.net> wrote in message news:<87******* *****@blakie.ri ol>...
ke***********@y ahoo.com writes:
> i am developing a web application and i am really confused on what should i use.
> should i use just python and use the cgi module availabe.
> Or should i use application like WebWare.Also there is PSP available.
> I am really confused and need help
It depends of the kind of application you want to do exactly, there are
many possibilities from cgi to zope...

Look into the archive of the list, you'll find a lot of answer to this
question. Or describe more what you need.

bye

hey thanks for ur reply
i am developing an issue tracking system


There is one that you can look at : http://roundup.sf.net
I think it can be used in standalone server or cgi.
the primary requirements are
1)it should be platform independent which i think python will take
care of
2)it should have customizable gui .I am thinking of using templates
for this like Cheetah. Is there any other better solution to Cheetah?
There is no better solution than Cheetah : there is others solutions...
The problem i am facing here is i dont know what to use for
development of the application. I came across many ways to develop web
application in python which I already specified like
i)the cgi module in python
ii)Python Server Pages
iii)Quixote
iv)WebWare
v)Zope etc.
I want to choose such an environment so that i dont have to install
other softwares to run my application.For eg. I think if I develop
using zope then the client also has to install zope to run my software
and i dont want this.


When you use one of theses servers, you don't need to install anything
else than a classic browser on the client side.
On the server side, most of the servers will not need anything else, you
can even start without server with the batterie include :
BasicHTTPServer (it was somes examples on this list somes days ago).

bye

--
Wilk - http://flibuste.net
Jul 18 '05 #7
Wilk <wi******@OUTfl ibuste.net> wrote in message news:<87******* *****@blakie.ri ol>...
ke***********@y ahoo.com writes:
The problem i am facing here is i dont know what to use for
development of the application. I came across many ways to develop web
application in python which I already specified like
i)the cgi module in python
ii)Python Server Pages
iii)Quixote
iv)WebWare
v)Zope etc.
I want to choose such an environment so that i dont have to install
other softwares to run my application.For eg. I think if I develop
using zope then the client also has to install zope to run my software
and i dont want this.


When you use one of theses servers, you don't need to install anything
else than a classic browser on the client side.
On the server side, most of the servers will not need anything else, you
can even start without server with the batterie include :
BasicHTTPServer (it was somes examples on this list somes days ago).


Just a guess, but I suspect the OP is using the term "client" in the
business sense, not the client/server sense; that is, he's trying to
write a Web application that is easy to deploy on his clients'
(customers') servers.

If it has to be a one-shot install, I would suggest a Web server
written in Python -- Medusa or Twisted, probably -- that you could
bundle with your Python app. Find a Web app framework that (a) works
on Medusa or Twisted and (b) has the templating features you
require/desire.

I wouldn't jump at using Twisted's app framework (Woven?) on top of
Twisted's Web server, though. No disrespect intended to the Twisted
community or their great body of work; it's just that server and
app-framework are two separate concerns: one day you might want to or
need to switch Web servers, and you need to know that your framework
is portable. I'm no Twisted expert: perhaps Woven is indeed portable,
and a kindly Twisted person will elaborate here.

-- Graham
Jul 18 '05 #8
hi
the application should work with Apache or IIS web server.
Jul 18 '05 #9
gr************* @hotmail.com (Graham Fawcett) wrote in message news:<e9******* *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com>...
Wilk <wi******@OUTfl ibuste.net> wrote in message news:<87oet9grq y.fsf@blakie. If it has to be a one-shot install, I would suggest a Web server
written in Python -- Medusa or Twisted, probably -- that you could
bundle with your Python app. Find a Web app framework that (a) works
on Medusa or Twisted and (b) has the templating features you
require/desire.


I would not recommend this. A distribution with an own apache server
seems to be the best. It is easy to hide the setup and the customers
know that there is a good working technologie behind the scenes. And
it can be managed by every normal administrator. This is a very
important point for larger customers.

I would recommend webware+Fun Form Kit+cheeta together with apache.
Jul 18 '05 #10

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