ok, i m going to use Linux for my Python Programs, mainly because i
need to see what will these fork() and exec() do. So, can anyone tell
me which flavour of linux i should use, some say that Debian is more
programmer friendly, or shold i use fedora, or Solaris. Because these
three are the only ones i know of that are popular and free.
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They are all the same as you don't have specific requirements
mentioned. Based on the way you ask, I would say some debian derivative
like ubuntu. debian is not programmer friendly but admin friendly I
would say. In general programmer friendly distro to me would mean
install everything one can possiblity think of by default so everything
is at hand for use.
Never tried the new solaris so I have no idea but I had some problem
when installed their old x86 a few years back however things may have
changed a lot.
I tried briefly with fedora but its packaging system is not up to par,
comparing with debian. However, you get newer things in fedora, in
general. Fedora has the advantage that it works better with commercial
stuff like Oracle/Sybase. I had problem making Sybase installed under
debian(the reason why I tried fedora). bl**@blah.blah wrote: ok, i m going to use Linux for my Python Programs, mainly because i
need to see what will these fork() and exec() do. So, can anyone tell
me which flavour of linux i should use, some say that Debian is more
programmer friendly, or shold i use fedora, or Solaris. Because these
three are the only ones i know of that are popular and free.
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blahman (bl**@blah.blah ) wrote: ok, i m going to use Linux for my Python Programs, mainly because i
need to see what will these fork() and exec() do. So, can anyone tell
me which flavour of linux i should use, some say that Debian is more
programmer friendly, or shold i use fedora, or Solaris. Because these
three are the only ones i know of that are popular and free.
A standard answer is - use that one, which is known to your friends, so they
can help you. Actually all Linux distros come with python and huge amount
of additional modules, so choose any. Fedora, Mandrake, Suse and Ubuntu
willi be easier for begginers, as they are targeted on inexperienced Linux
users (what doesn't mean they cannot be used by experienced),
Debian requires some knowledge (well, way more then other distros) but i
like it for its clarity, wonderful package manager apt and control i have
over it, it is also well documented and popular. I suggest first use
Knoppix - Debian based distro, that boots from cd, doesn't require
installation and contains tons of software, including python of course.
Solaris is a different os, has nothing to do with Linux.
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to go 'researching' while you should be getting stuff done!
blahman (bl**@blah.blah ) writes: ok, i m going to use Linux for my Python Programs, mainly because i
need to see what will these fork() and exec() do. So, can anyone tell
me which flavour of linux i should use, some say that Debian is more
programmer friendly, or shold i use fedora, or Solaris. Because these
three are the only ones i know of that are popular and free.
You seem a bit confused. Solaris isn't a Linux distribution, it's
(System V) Unix. Linux isn't Unix - it's a Unix look-like. *BSD is
Unix, but they can't call it that for licensing reasons.
"Programmer-friendly" is pretty vague. Gentoo is the only Linux distro
I've run into (which excludes a *lot* of Unix distros) that I'd
consider programmer friendly, because it doesn't split packages up
into "user stuff" and "developer stuff". That means you have to
install two packages instead of one if you want to build things
against that software. On the other hand, it uses it's own "package"
manager - emerge - so you can't take advantage of rpms/debs from other
systems (or you couldn't last time I looked into it). It also installs
the least amount of "bundled" software, which I consider a programmer
friendly behavior.
Personally, I run FreeBSD - and I like gentoo because it has a lot in
common with a BSD distribution. FreeBSD is the most popular of the
BSDs. BSDs differ from Linuxen in that a BSD distribution is an
integrated whole - the kernel and userland are maintained by the same
group, in the same repository. So the number of BSD kernels to choose
from is much greater than the number of Linux kernels, but the number
of BSD distributions is much fewer.
<mike
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Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. bl**@blah.blah wrote: ok, i m going to use Linux for my Python Programs, mainly because i
need to see what will these fork() and exec() do. So, can anyone tell
me which flavour of linux i should use, some say that Debian is more
programmer friendly, or shold i use fedora, or Solaris. Because these
three are the only ones i know of that are popular and free.
Solaris isn't Linux, but it is good. I've never installed it from
scratch, though.
I might get lambasted for suggesting this, but try Slackware. It will
let you do a very minimal installation, which means there's less stuff
that can go wrong. It also has nice, beginner-friendly FAQs to help you
get started. Like the other distros already suggested, it comes with
the graphical desktop environments Gnome and KDE, too.
If at all possible, have another computer available with a working
internet connection and a floppy disc drive or CD burner.
Like Maciej said, if you have a buddy nearby who is already an expert on
a particular distro, try that distro. This is especially true for
distros like Gentoo that have... their own way of doing things. :)
Jeffrey Schwab wrote:
I might get lambasted for suggesting this, but try Slackware. It will
let you do a very minimal installation, which means there's less stuff
that can go wrong. It also has nice, beginner-friendly FAQs to help you
get started. Like the other distros already suggested, it comes with
the graphical desktop environments Gnome and KDE, too.
What I like about Slackware/python is that you get the full python
distribution. My last experience with Debian & subordinates was that
only the "core" python was included with the distribution, and a bit of
hunting was required to get Tkinter working. Maybe this has improved in
the last year or two?
Nick
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 04:26:38 -0600, blahman wrote: ok, i m going to use Linux for my Python Programs, mainly because i
need to see what will these fork() and exec() do. So, can anyone tell
me which flavour of linux i should use, some say that Debian is more
programmer friendly, or shold i use fedora, or Solaris. Because these
three are the only ones i know of that are popular and free.
Personally I would recommend staying away from Fedora unless you have a
friend who is well-versed in it and willing to help. I like the
distributin ok (I run it on the laptop I'm writing this from) but it uses
RPMs for package distribution, and the rpm tools don't know how to
automatically downloaded dependencies like yum or apt do. Because of that
I have to say that the RPM package tools suck quite badly.
Debian and SUSE are both pretty good choices.
And for complete control and customization of your os and hardware...
There's nothing like Gentoo!
I have been away from unix/linux for a couple of years.
I went with SUSE. Just do an install all, and 10 gig later you
are done.
Very simple install, very easy admin with YAST.
If you are a power admin, there may be better release. But if you want
simple, but powerful, SUSE has worked well for me.
Good Luck,
Mike bl**@blah.blah wrote: ok, i m going to use Linux for my Python Programs, mainly because i
need to see what will these fork() and exec() do. So, can anyone tell
me which flavour of linux i should use, some say that Debian is more
programmer friendly, or shold i use fedora, or Solaris. Because these
three are the only ones i know of that are popular and free.
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The greatest performance improvement occurs on the transition of from
the non-working state to the working state.
Hi Michael,
I too use SUSE (9.3). The Novell operation has convinced me to
go back to SUSE, after some trials with Mandrake and Ubuntu.
Especially on the Python side all is ready up. But I will not go
into the complications of "fork" and "thread" programming...
Bye.
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