A native Windows binding for PHP

[Rubem Pechansky]

Hi all,

I have designed and successfully prototyped a native Windows binding
for PHP. This binding is already capable of doing dialogs, controls,
and a lot more with very few lines of code. PHP can thus be used as a
tool for developing native Windows applications, so it can compete
with several much more expensive languages/environments. Go to
http://hypervisual.com/winbind/ for more details. This library will
eventually grow into a full-fledged IDE. I believe this idea has great
potential in the low-end market given the enormous installed base of
Windows users and the ever-growing interest about PHP.

I'd like to open the code source *and* make a profit at the same time
(although I'm not sure if that's possible), so I'm open to any ideas
or business opportunities regarding the large-scale development of
this product.

What do you think? Does this idea have potential? Would any serious
company be interested in investing on a project like this?

[Hayden Kirk]

"Rubem Pechansky" <pe*******@hypervisual.com> wrote in message
news:d8**************************@posting.google.c om...

Hi all,

I have designed and successfully prototyped a native Windows binding
for PHP. This binding is already capable of doing dialogs, controls,
and a lot more with very few lines of code. PHP can thus be used as a
tool for developing native Windows applications, so it can compete
with several much more expensive languages/environments. Go to
http://hypervisual.com/winbind/ for more details. This library will
eventually grow into a full-fledged IDE. I believe this idea has great
potential in the low-end market given the enormous installed base of
Windows users and the ever-growing interest about PHP.

I'd like to open the code source *and* make a profit at the same time
(although I'm not sure if that's possible), so I'm open to any ideas
or business opportunities regarding the large-scale development of
this product.

What do you think? Does this idea have potential? Would any serious
company be interested in investing on a project like this?

I really think this could grow... I know for allot of products im using this
would benefit me allot.

However, paying for it is a different story. Maybe it should be free for no
commercial use, or something along those lines?

Thanks,
Hayden Kirk

[Manuel Lemos]

Hello,

"Rubem Pechansky" <pe*******@hypervisual.com> wrote in message..

I have designed and successfully prototyped a native Windows binding
for PHP. This binding is already capable of doing dialogs, controls,
and a lot more with very few lines of code. PHP can thus be used as a
tool for developing native Windows applications, so it can compete
with several much more expensive languages/environments. Go to
http://hypervisual.com/winbind/ for more details. This library will
eventually grow into a full-fledged IDE. I believe this idea has great
potential in the low-end market given the enormous installed base of
Windows users and the ever-growing interest about PHP.

I'd like to open the code source *and* make a profit at the same time
(although I'm not sure if that's possible), so I'm open to any ideas
or business opportunities regarding the large-scale development of
this product.

What do you think? Does this idea have potential? Would any serious
company be interested in investing on a project like this?

I think that once you have opened the source code, it is hard to make a
profit just from its development.

On the other hand you can always open the source of the library and
develop closed source extensions or tools that make the development of
your library more powerful and useful so it will be an advantage for
people to buy those extensions and tools from you instead of developing
themselves.

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

[Rubem Pechansky]

> On the other hand you can always open the source of the library and

develop closed source extensions or tools that make the development of
your library more powerful and useful so it will be an advantage for
people to buy those extensions and tools from you instead of developing
themselves.

This is exactly what I have in mind. If I want this tool to be useful
and popular, I know I can't make people pay for it, at least for
non-commercial use (thanks, Hayden). But for that to happen I must
first find a partner company who wants to invest a little bit and then
add it to their portfolio. I think this is the best way to make it
free.

[Manuel Lemos]

Hello,

On 07/30/2004 06:32 PM, Rubem Pechansky wrote:

On the other hand you can always open the source of the library and
develop closed source extensions or tools that make the development of
your library more powerful and useful so it will be an advantage for
people to buy those extensions and tools from you instead of developing
themselves.

This is exactly what I have in mind. If I want this tool to be useful
and popular, I know I can't make people pay for it, at least for
non-commercial use (thanks, Hayden). But for that to happen I must
first find a partner company who wants to invest a little bit and then
add it to their portfolio. I think this is the best way to make it
free.

Right, but before you release anything it is going to be hard to
demonstrate to any partner/investor that what you have is interesting
and has business potential because besides yourself you do not have any
user base to show or even poll for potential business case.

If I were you, I would probably develop some tools to address specific
needs of some clients that would pay so you can justify dedicating full
time development of your library and tools. Releasing your library to
the public would either provide you a user base to test it and suggest
improvement as well a potential client base to provide you hints on
possible products or services they would be willing to pay.
--

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

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[Hayden Kirk]

"Manuel Lemos" <ml****@acm.org> wrote in message
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Hello,

On 07/30/2004 06:32 PM, Rubem Pechansky wrote:

On the other hand you can always open the source of the library and
develop closed source extensions or tools that make the development of
your library more powerful and useful so it will be an advantage for
people to buy those extensions and tools from you instead of developing
themselves.

This is exactly what I have in mind. If I want this tool to be useful
and popular, I know I can't make people pay for it, at least for
non-commercial use (thanks, Hayden). But for that to happen I must
first find a partner company who wants to invest a little bit and then
add it to their portfolio. I think this is the best way to make it
free.

Right, but before you release anything it is going to be hard to
demonstrate to any partner/investor that what you have is interesting
and has business potential because besides yourself you do not have any
user base to show or even poll for potential business case.

If I were you, I would probably develop some tools to address specific
needs of some clients that would pay so you can justify dedicating full
time development of your library and tools. Releasing your library to
the public would either provide you a user base to test it and suggest
improvement as well a potential client base to provide you hints on
possible products or services they would be willing to pay.
--

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP
http://www.phpclasses.org/

PHP Reviews - Reviews of PHP books and other products
http://www.phpclasses.org/reviews/

Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator
http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html

Yea,

I would be really intrested in testing this if you want a tester.

Thanks,
Hayden Kirk

[Norman Peelman]

"Rubem Pechansky" <pe*******@hypervisual.com> wrote in message
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Hi all,

I have designed and successfully prototyped a native Windows binding
for PHP. This binding is already capable of doing dialogs, controls,
and a lot more with very few lines of code. PHP can thus be used as a
tool for developing native Windows applications, so it can compete
with several much more expensive languages/environments. Go to
http://hypervisual.com/winbind/ for more details. This library will
eventually grow into a full-fledged IDE. I believe this idea has great
potential in the low-end market given the enormous installed base of
Windows users and the ever-growing interest about PHP.

I'd like to open the code source *and* make a profit at the same time
(although I'm not sure if that's possible), so I'm open to any ideas
or business opportunities regarding the large-scale development of
this product.

What do you think? Does this idea have potential? Would any serious
company be interested in investing on a project like this?

When will this be available?

Norm
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[Rubem Pechansky]

Manuel, Hayden, Norm:

The library is under development and its specs, module organization
and function base is still unstable. I'm working hard to stabilize it
in the next few weeks. In the meantime I'll have to decide if I'll
open its code before I get any payment (and this isn't a trivial
decision). I'll probably open a project in SourceForge -- this will
help me see what kind of interest it generates. In this case I'll be
looking for people who can help me and testers as well. Please keep an
eye on this group and at hypervisual.com/winbind for updates.