Seeking Tech Volunteers for Nonprofit Causes

[dhcrusoe]

Greetings,

My apologies if this message comes across as spam; it isn't meant to
be.

A group of colleagues and I have built a project to mobilize
technology volunteers for small nonprofit organizations, located at
http://www.codekindness.org . It's a simple technology, and simply
acts to link potential volunteers with individual projects. It's
nonprofit.

The first 15 projects have been posted by about 21 small organizations
both within, and outside of, the United States - and are all great
causes. For instance, many orgs have such rudimentary websites that
even a few minutes spent polishing their presence would be
significantly helpful.

With hope, some of you might be interested to help one or more of
these wonderful organizations with their technology needs, as a means
to helping them further their mission of social good.

Kindly check out the projects and, if interested, sign up to help.
Many thanks & all the best,
--Dave
http://www.codekindness.org

[Twayne]

Greetings,

>
My apologies if this message comes across as spam; it isn't meant to
be.

A group of colleagues and I have built a project to mobilize
technology volunteers for small nonprofit organizations, located at
http://www.codekindness.org . It's a simple technology, and simply
acts to link potential volunteers with individual projects. It's
nonprofit.

The first 15 projects have been posted by about 21 small organizations
both within, and outside of, the United States - and are all great
causes. For instance, many orgs have such rudimentary websites that
even a few minutes spent polishing their presence would be
significantly helpful.

With hope, some of you might be interested to help one or more of
these wonderful organizations with their technology needs, as a means
to helping them further their mission of social good.

Kindly check out the projects and, if interested, sign up to help.
Many thanks & all the best,
--Dave
http://www.codekindness.org

Well, let's see here; since the abuse address for codekindness is at
coloquest.com, and since coloquest will not respond to spam reports, it
also hosts rent-a-coder, is fairly new to have so many comments on it
online, I see a lot of comments about "friends don't have to worry about
emailing multiple invitations for the same site", the graph at
http://www.robtex.com/ip/69.65.41.13.html, there is no brick/mortan
address, no phone number, no tos, no aup, and plenty of bad neighbors,
I'm going to say my opinion is that your post is indeed ... spam!
The above, and ... I managed to track it to other newsgroups and at
least one forum makes me even more sure. The German language sitting
behind the English is interesting since it's supposedly, according to
boss Crusoe, located in Mass.
A lot just plain smells bad. I did a little "safe snooping" too and
although I see plenty of requirements to provide full functioning code,
all source code, methods and documentation, I would have expected to
also see something about copyright and intellectual rights; in fact, the
site's pages aren't even copyrighted. The only copyright I saw was your
bossman's on some article he wrote.
It particularly irks me that you might be pilfering/profiting somehow
from non-profit sites and if you're willing to spam in the process, I
find your methods most abhorrant(sp?). I happen to work with several
non-profits, BTW. I can 't help but wonder what really happens to the
gratis code supplied for supposedly non-profit outfits around the world.
If I were to spend more than the 5 minutes or so that I spent I'll bet
there's a lot more to your story than I've touched on, too. Quit
spamming.
On the slight possibiity that you're legit and just ignorant, you
then seriously need some help with marketing before you go any further.
You could start by doing some reading here:
http://www.spamhaus.org/

[dhcrusoe]

Apologies to add a second reply, but I'm dearly disappointed that
something that I've worked hard to create for the common good has been
identified as spam. Would you kindly point out what you mean by
"German language" behind English?

Many thanks,
--Dave

On Aug 27, 5:40*pm, "Twayne" <nob...@devnull .spamcop.netwro te:

Greetings,

My apologies if this message comes across as spam; it isn't meant to
be.

A group of colleagues and I have built a project to mobilize
technology volunteers for small nonprofit organizations, located at
http://www.codekindness.org. It's a simple technology, and simply
acts to link potential volunteers with individual projects. It's
nonprofit.

The first 15 projects have been posted by about 21 small organizations
both within, and outside of, the United States - and are all great
causes. For instance, many orgs have such rudimentary websites that
even a few minutes spent polishing their presence would be
significantly helpful.

With hope, some of you might be interested to help one or more of
these wonderful organizations with their technology needs, as a means
to helping them further their mission of social good.

Kindly check out the projects and, if interested, sign up to help.
Many thanks & all the best,
--Dave
http://www.codekindness.org

Well, let's see here; since the abuse address for codekindness is at
coloquest.com, and since coloquest will not respond to spam reports, it
also hosts rent-a-coder, is fairly new to have so many comments on it
online, I see a lot of comments about "friends don't have to worry about
emailing multiple invitations for the same site", the graph athttp://www.robtex.com/ip/69.65.41.13.htm l, there is no brick/mortan
address, no phone number, no tos, no aup, and plenty of bad neighbors,
I'm going to say my opinion is that your post is indeed ... spam!
* *The above, and ... I managed to track it to other newsgroups and at
least one forum makes me even more sure. *The German language sitting
behind the English is interesting since it's supposedly, according to
boss Crusoe, located in Mass.
* A lot just plain smells bad. *I did a little "safe snooping" too and
although I see plenty of requirements to provide full functioning code,
all source code, methods and documentation, I would have expected to
also see something about copyright and intellectual rights; in fact, the
site's pages aren't even copyrighted. *The only copyright I saw was your
bossman's on some article he wrote.
* *It particularly irks me that you might be pilfering/profiting somehow
from non-profit sites and if you're willing to spam in the process, I
find your methods most abhorrant(sp?). I happen to work with several
non-profits, BTW. * I can 't help but wonder what really happens to the
gratis code supplied for supposedly non-profit outfits around the world.
If I were to spend more than the 5 minutes or so that I spent I'll bet
there's a lot more to your story than I've touched on, too. *Quit
spamming.
* *On the slight possibiity that you're legit and just ignorant, you
then seriously need some help with marketing before you go any further.
You could start by doing some reading here:http://www.spamhaus.org/

[dhcrusoe]

Joe, and all others in this group,

Please accept my apologies. I hadn't realized the point of view, and
will be sure to refrain from postings in the future. I'm also working
to amend the TOS and other items that were missing, although can't do
much about the host in the short-term.

Apologetically,
--Dave

>
It is an unsolicited ad for programmers to give up their time to help
you and your web site.

It doesn't matter what your budget is - such ads in programming
newsgroups such as this are not welcome and considered SPAM.

If you really want help, I would recommend you find some money to pay
people a going rate.

And yes, I do donate my time to non-profit organizations at times. *But
they are ones I am familiar with, I know what they do and that they are
a responsible organization. *And their goal is one I support.

I don't just donate my time to any joe blow who comes along and asks for
it. *I'd be out on the street real quick like that.

--
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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstuck...@attgl obal.net
=============== ===

[Twayne]

I already gave a URL that contained excellent marketing strategies and
advice had you looked around the site. Others, of which there are
thousands, are:

http://www.mail-abuse.com/spam_def.html
http://www.imarketingstrategy.com/SPAM-SPAM-SPAM.html
http://www.streetdirectory.com/trave...marketing.html
http://www.e-strategyblog.com/2006/0...email_con.html
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/11-2-2002-29468.asp

The above links are a LOT of information, all generally aimed at the
same topic and some giving other sides of the story from spammers.

I'm not inclined to get into a word-war or long debate of definitions
and terms and rather think that you can find everything and more that I
would say by spending a few minutes with s search engine as I just did
to scrape out the above URLs. I don't personally specificallyrec ommend
any of the above and all I can say about them is that they didn't drop
3rd party cookies and didn't try to push any malware on me that I could
detect and their info seemed OK. But I didn't spend a lof of surfing
time on them so have your AV etc up to date and firewall ON.

You need marketing efforts, not further spam efforts. Every single bit
of info I've provided is available online freely and to the public.

One hint: If you send a mail to anyone withouth their having
voluntarily and specifically opted IN to receive them, you could find
yourself further accused of spamming. It sounds tough, but if you will
just read ...

Twayne

Apologies to add a second reply, but I'm dearly disappointed that
something that I've worked hard to create for the common good has been
identified as spam. Would you kindly point out what you mean by
"German language" behind English?

Many thanks,
--Dave

On Aug 27, 5:40 pm, "Twayne" <nob...@devnull .spamcop.netwro te:

>>Greetings,

>>My apologies if this message comes across as spam; it isn't meant to
be.

>>A group of colleagues and I have built a project to mobilize
technology volunteers for small nonprofit organizations, located at
http://www.codekindness.org. It's a simple technology, and simply
acts to link potential volunteers with individual projects. It's
nonprofit.

>>The first 15 projects have been posted by about 21 small
organizatio ns both within, and outside of, the United States - and
are all great causes. For instance, many orgs have such rudimentary
websites that even a few minutes spent polishing their presence
would be significantly helpful.

>>With hope, some of you might be interested to help one or more of
these wonderful organizations with their technology needs, as a
means to helping them further their mission of social good.

>>Kindly check out the projects and, if interested, sign up to help.
Many thanks & all the best,
--Dave
http://www.codekindness.org

Well, let's see here; since the abuse address for codekindness is at
coloquest.co m, and since coloquest will not respond to spam reports,
it
also hosts rent-a-coder, is fairly new to have so many comments on it
online, I see a lot of comments about "friends don't have to worry
about
emailing multiple invitations for the same site", the graph
athttp://www.robtex.com/ip/69.65.41.13.htm l, there is no
brick/mortan address, no phone number, no tos, no aup, and plenty of
bad neighbors,
I'm going to say my opinion is that your post is indeed ... spam!
The above, and ... I managed to track it to other newsgroups and at
least one forum makes me even more sure. The German language sitting
behind the English is interesting since it's supposedly, according to
boss Crusoe, located in Mass.
A lot just plain smells bad. I did a little "safe snooping" too and
although I see plenty of requirements to provide full functioning
code,
all source code, methods and documentation, I would have expected to
also see something about copyright and intellectual rights; in fact,
the
site's pages aren't even copyrighted. The only copyright I saw was
your
bossman's on some article he wrote.
It particularly irks me that you might be pilfering/profiting somehow
from non-profit sites and if you're willing to spam in the process, I
find your methods most abhorrant(sp?). I happen to work with several
non-profits, BTW. I can 't help but wonder what really happens to the
gratis code supplied for supposedly non-profit outfits around the
world.
If I were to spend more than the 5 minutes or so that I spent I'll
bet
there's a lot more to your story than I've touched on, too. Quit
spamming.
On the slight possibiity that you're legit and just ignorant, you
then seriously need some help with marketing before you go any
further.
You could start by doing some reading here:http://www.spamhaus.org/

[dhcrusoe]

Gary, Twayne,

Many thanks for your very, very good suggestions. This is to say that
I feel more educated, and thoughtfully critiqued, rather than
attacked. Your comments are definitely on target not more harsh than
need be. The task is on me, now, to read and, as you both strongly
suggest, research.

In the interest of preserving the topical list, I'm going to refrain
from adding any more to this thread, save to say that you have both
pointed out very valuable information that will help educate me, and
others, about how to conduct proper web outreach.

Many thanks once again,
--Dave