I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the
dialog with JavaScript.
What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice? 14 1681
On Oct 20, 10:45*am, MartinRineh...@ gmail.com wrote:
I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the
dialog with JavaScript.
What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice?
It is your choice...
If you load HTML you will have an extra request to your web server to
deal with, if you use JavaScript your client will use some extra CPU
time...
"GArlington " <ga********@tis cali.co.ukwrote in message
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On Oct 20, 10:45 am, MartinRineh...@ gmail.com wrote:
I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the
dialog with JavaScript.
What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice?
It is your choice...
If you load HTML you will have an extra request to your web server to
deal with, if you use JavaScript your client will use some extra CPU
time...
And ~10% of the clients will never see it.
rf wrote:
"GArlington " <ga********@tis cali.co.ukwrote in message
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On Oct 20, 10:45 am, MartinRineh...@ gmail.com wrote:
>I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the dialog with JavaScript.
What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice?
It is your choice...
If you load HTML you will have an extra request to your web server to
deal with, if you use JavaScript your client will use some extra CPU
time...
Loading it in HTML does not necessitate an extra http req. Just put it
in the HTML. Requires less javascript to be downloaded.
....
<body>
<h1Heading </h1>
<pyour content here </p>
<div id="panel">
panel content here.
</div>
</body>
....
--
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dhtml wrote:
rf wrote:
>"GArlington " wrote: On Oct 20, 10:45 am, MartinRineh...@ gmail.com wrote:
>>I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the dialog with JavaScript.
What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice?
It is your choice... If you load HTML you will have an extra request to your web server to deal with, if you use JavaScript your client will use some extra CPU time...
Loading it in HTML does not necessitate an extra http req. Just put it
in the HTML. Requires less javascript to be downloaded.
...
<body>
<h1Heading </h1>
<pyour content here </p>
<div id="panel">
panel content here.
</div>
</body>
...
You forgot to consider non-graphical user agents, including text browsers
(which usually do not support CSS) and search engines.
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On Oct 21, 1:27*pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@we b.de>
wrote:
dhtml wrote:
rf wrote:
"GArlington " wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:45 am, MartinRineh...@ gmail.com wrote: I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the dialog with JavaScript.
>What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice?
It is your choice...
If you load HTML you will have an extra request to your web server to
deal with, if you use JavaScript your client will use some extra CPU
time...
Loading it in HTML does not necessitate an extra http req. Just put it
in the HTML. Requires less javascript to be downloaded.
...
<body>
<h1Heading </h1>
<pyour content here </p>
<div id="panel">
* panel content here.
</div>
</body>
...
You forgot to consider non-graphical user agents, including text browsers
(which usually do not support CSS) and search engines.
True enough, you should always test pages in Lynx (or a simulator) for
just this reason (most pages will read like the gibberish that they
are.)
However, the quoted example would be fine in this regard, so what was
forgotten?
David Mark wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>dhtml wrote:
>>rf wrote: "GArlingto n" wrote: On Oct 20, 10:45 am, MartinRineh...@ gmail.com wrote: I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the dialog with JavaScript. What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice? [...] Loading it in HTML does not necessitate an extra http req. Just put it in the HTML. Requires less javascript to be downloaded. ... <body> <h1Heading </h1> <pyour content here </p> <div id="panel"> panel content here. </div> </body> ...
You forgot to consider non-graphical user agents, including text browsers (which usually do not support CSS) and search engines.
True enough, you should always test pages in Lynx (or a simulator) for
just this reason (most pages will read like the gibberish that they
are.)
However, the quoted example would be fine in this regard, [...]
Isn't it obvious that it would not be fine? The panel is a dialog that
should only be displayed when necessary (requested by a user action).
However, with this markup the "panel" will be displayed always (as a
paragraph) in e.g. Lynx.
PointedEars
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(This won't prevent people from viewing your source, but no one
will want to steal it.)
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On Oct 22, 5:21*pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@we b.de>
wrote:
David Mark wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
dhtml wrote: rf wrote: "GArlington " wrote: On Oct 20, 10:45 am, MartinRineh...@ gmail.com wrote: I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the dialog with JavaScript. What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice? [...] Loading it in HTML does not necessitate an extra http req. Just put it in the HTML. Requires less javascript to be downloaded. ... <body> <h1Heading </h1> <pyour content here </p> <div id="panel"> * panel content here. </div> </body> ...
You forgot to consider non-graphical user agents, including text browsers
(which usually do not support CSS) and search engines.
True enough, you should always test pages in Lynx (or a simulator) for
just this reason (most pages will read like the gibberish that they
are.)
However, the quoted example would be fine in this regard, [...]
Isn't it obvious that it would not be fine? *The panel is a dialog that
No.
should only be displayed when necessary (requested by a user action).
Not necessarily. That may not be possible.
However, with this markup the "panel" will be displayed always (as a
paragraph) in e.g. Lynx.
Yes, Lynx does not support script. That's why the form will always be
there. So what?
David Mark wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>David Mark wrote:
>>Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: dhtml wrote: rf wrote: >"GArlingto n" wrote: >On Oct 20, 10:45 am, MartinRineh...@ gmail.com wrote: >>I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the >>dialog with JavaScript. >>What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice? [...] Loading it in HTML does not necessitate an extra http req. Just put it in the HTML. Requires less javascript to be downloaded. ... <body> <h1Headin g </h1> <pyour content here </p> <div id="panel"> panel content here. </div> </body> ... You forgot to consider non-graphical user agents, including text browsers (which usually do not support CSS) and search engines. True enough, you should always test pages in Lynx (or a simulator) for just this reason (most pages will read like the gibberish that they are.) However, the quoted example would be fine in this regard, [...]
Isn't it obvious that it would not be fine? The panel is a dialog that
No.
Apparently not to you (yet).
>should only be displayed when necessary (requested by a user action).
Not necessarily. That may not be possible.
It is entirely possible if the dialog is not in the original HTML document.
Have you even read the thread?
>However, with this markup the "panel" will be displayed always (as a paragraph) in e.g. Lynx.
Yes, Lynx does not support script. That's why the form will always be
there. So what?
So there would be a dialog (not a form) that does not belong there, which
would be a Bad Thing. Do you need to be guided from A to B to C now?
PointedEars
On Oct 22, 6:20*pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedE...@we b.de>
wrote:
David Mark wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
David Mark wrote: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: dhtml wrote: rf wrote: "GArlington " wrote: On Oct 20, 10:45 am, MartinRineh...@ gmail.com wrote: >I can load a dialog by loading an HTML page or by constructing the >dialog with JavaScript. >What should I be thinking about when I look at this choice? [...] Loading it in HTML does not necessitate an extra http req. Just putit in the HTML. Requires less javascript to be downloaded. ... <body> <h1Heading </h1> <pyour content here </p> <div id="panel"> * panel content here. </div> </body> ... You forgot to consider non-graphical user agents, including text browsers (which usually do not support CSS) and search engines. True enough, you should always test pages in Lynx (or a simulator) for just this reason (most pages will read like the gibberish that they are.) However, the quoted example would be fine in this regard, [...]
Isn't it obvious that it would not be fine? *The panel is a dialog that
No.
Apparently not to you (yet).
should only be displayed when necessary (requested by a user action).
Not necessarily. *That may not be possible.
It is entirely possible if the dialog is not in the original HTML document.
*Have you even read the thread?
Of course I have. There is exactly one post by the OP and the problem
is outlined in one vague sentence. Perhaps you had a different
interpretation?
>
However, with this markup the "panel" will be displayed always (as a
paragraph) in e.g. Lynx.
Yes, Lynx does not support script. *That's why the form will always be
there. *So what?
So there would be a dialog (not a form) that does not belong there, which
The word "dialog" has no real meaning here. A form in a div?
would be a Bad Thing. *Do you need to be guided from A to B to C now?
What sort of misplaced hubris is this? And perhaps you have never
seen a Web page with a form at the bottom. If possible (e.g. script,
CSS and any other needed features are available), the author may
choose to adjust the style to hide the form. It could then be
displayed later in response to a button press. The poor Lynx users
will just have to look at the form at the bottom. Again, so what? This thread has been closed and replies have been disabled. Please start a new discussion. Similar topics |
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