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Okay, I think I'll soon be getting all the JavaScript/CSS/DHTML-
related "site mechanics" wrapped up...at least until I decide on real
Ajax-style interactivity next year!

But until then, I'd be interest in strategies for dealing with those
visitors who don't have JavaScript enabled...how I can not only give
them the same access, but not make that access "corny"?

Like, for example, I want a modal window to pop up on a
hyperlink...but someone without JavaScript enabled would not get that
modal window effect, and would instead simply be sent along as if to a
"real" hyperlink, complete with a "page redraw," totally breaking the
design! How can I prevent that, while ensuring that such a visitor
still gets the information?

Etc.

As always, so many thanks for all your time and help!!
Jun 27 '08
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In article
<4e************ *************** *******@x41g200 0hsb.googlegrou ps.com>,
Prisoner at War <pr************ *@yahoo.comwrot e:
On May 1, 12:28 pm, David Stone <no.em...@domai n.invalidwrote:


No, actual CONTENT - the page you gave in your URL was completely
empty, apart from some links server up by the JS.

Hmm, didn't realize their page was like that! That's my webhost, you
know, and they're always preaching about web standards and "KISS"....
[snip]

Java or JavaScript? (Not the same thing!)

Actually, it's some kind of ActiveX "firewall" that seems to only
affect *my* JavaScript! Other sites' JavaScripts work fine, but the
one I'm creating offline gets that MSIE 7 warning about ActiveX
Controls...?!
Can't help you there - like I said, I don't have access to IE.
You could try the Help function...

[snip]
>
Another thing, please, since you seem really knowledgeable about
browser matters: Firefox' JavaScript console popped up for the first
time today over a modal window I was wrestling with, but it never did
before, despite my being far from being even a competent Script
Kid...so why did it decide to do that today all of a sudden?
Preferences Content - note the different options, the ability
to set site-specific exceptions, and the Advanced... button for
JavaScript settings.
Furthermore, I erased the "log activity" of the console ('cause I
couldn't understand them anyway and wanted to regenerate the error
messages by re-running that problematic modal window script) but
despite still popping up, no more error messages were posted by the
console! What the font?!?!
No idea - try the Help function...
Jun 27 '08 #11
On May 2, 7:13 am, David Stone <no.em...@domai n.invalidwrote:
>
Can't help you there - like I said, I don't have access to IE.
You could try the Help function...

[snip]

Preferences Content - note the different options, the ability
to set site-specific exceptions, and the Advanced... button for
JavaScript settings.

No idea - try the Help function...

"Help" is usually not helpful -- funny how they write those
things...they'r e basically reference material which would only be
relevant to people who already know how to use the app!

But thanks for all your suggestions!
Jun 27 '08 #12
On May 2, 2:48 am, Gregor Kofler <use...@gregork ofler.atwrote:
>

Er... what? You're talking bout this sitesell blokes? The ones, whose
webpage issues 24 warnings when sent through the validator? The ones
using <fontand several proprietary attributes? The ones defining font
sizes in "px"?
Wow, that's funny! But it doesn't surprise me...they're "unique" over
there, shall we say...they're a multi-million dollar company that's
been around since ~1997 but they're first and foremost network
marketing types, so basically they're about "making money" and much
less so about "technology " and "clean code"...you know, the
"whatever's clever" sort of people (which many of us are, from time to
time concerning certain things)....

Not to badmouth my webhost, now -- they're very good in other ways,
especially for a certain kind of newbie...unfort unately, I might be
leaving them sooner or later 'cause they won't even let me upload
simple .ani or .cur files and there's no explanation why not!

If anyone else has an opinion, please check out http://buildit.sitesell.com/sunnyside.html
and let me know...I've got three months "invested" in this service
and, like I said, there are many things I like about it as a n00b, but
certain little things bother me, yet the thought of transferring my
domain, etc., isn't all that appealing...plu s, their private forums
can be pretty good, especially WRT business ideas -- but like any
forum, unfortunately, there are the "top-posting police" who like to
tell people what to say and how to say it! Anyway, if anyone knows of
a comparable host (not just another webhost, but a "comparable " one,
which *they* claim there isn't!), please let me know, thanks....

Jun 27 '08 #13

Prisoner at War wrote:
>
If anyone else has an opinion, please check out http://buildit.sitesell.com/sunnyside.html
Is there supposed to be something at that sunnyside.html page?
I just get redirected to http://buildit.sitesell.com/main/home.html

Of course, with JS disabled I only get a blank page.

--
Berg
Jun 27 '08 #14
On May 2, 4:35 pm, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
Prisoner at War wrote:
If anyone else has an opinion, please check outhttp://buildit.sitesel l.com/sunnyside.html

Is there supposed to be something at that sunnyside.html page?
I just get redirected tohttp://buildit.sitesel l.com/main/home.html

Of course, with JS disabled I only get a blank page.

--
Berg

??

Sorry, I don't know what could be going on with that; it's just
supposed to be one of the webhost's pages. If you see the pitch about
why they're the best thing on the internet, blah blah blah, then
you've arrived where you should be!

You know, I'm going to try to disable JavaScript myself and
see...these guys kind of have me feeling a bit cynical...their advice
is KISS but obviously they've got JavaScript out the wazoo and their
site doesn't degrade gracefully at all! Well, what do yo expect from
MLM/network-marketing guys...even though the founder and president was
a medical doctor, oddly enough....

Oh, BTW, anybody know of a similar webhost (SBI! claims that they're
the only ones who do what they do), please let me know...I might be
looking to move my site next year once my current subscription expires
(with SBI! you pay a year in advance, though they offer pro-rated
refunds at any time)....
Jun 27 '08 #15
Prisoner at War wrote:
On May 2, 4:35 pm, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
>Prisoner at War wrote:
>>If anyone else has an opinion, please check outhttp://buildit.sitesel l.com/sunnyside.html
Is there supposed to be something at that sunnyside.html page?
I just get redirected tohttp://buildit.sitesel l.com/main/home.html

Of course, with JS disabled I only get a blank page.

--
Berg


??

Sorry, I don't know what could be going on with that; it's just
supposed to be one of the webhost's pages. If you see the pitch about
why they're the best thing on the internet, blah blah blah, then
you've arrived where you should be!
You are using JavaScript to to a document.write of a meta-tag refresh to
redirect... UG! Very bad in so many ways....

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
Jun 27 '08 #16

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