I know about the * * style="cursor: pointer; cursor: hand;" * *
attribute of the <imgtag, but is there a way JavaScript can "load
in" one's own graphic for such events??
How?
TIA! 13  2197 
Prisoner at War wrote:
I know about the * * style="cursor: pointer; cursor: hand;" * *
attribute of the <imgtag, but is there a way JavaScript can "load
in" one's own graphic for such events??
CSS allows
cursor: url(some-cursor.file);
I think but I don't know about supported file formats and browser
support for that feature: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/ui.html#cursor-props
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Martin Honnen http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/
On Apr 20, 10:34 am, Martin Honnen <mahotr...@yaho o.dewrote:
>
CSS allows
cursor: url(some-cursor.file);
I think but I don't know about supported file formats and browser
support for that feature:http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/ui.html#cursor-props
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Martin Honnen
http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/
Hmm, I'm using
style="cursor: url(db2.gif);"
within an <imgtag and it's not working...any idea what I've left
out??
Thanks for the w3.org link -- but I don't have the technical
background yet to really make sense of the reference entry there! =(
Prisoner at War wrote:
Hmm, I'm using
style="cursor: url(db2.gif);"
within an <imgtag and it's not working...any idea what I've left
out??
As I said, I don't know of browser support for that feature, the IE
documentation suggests that IE 6 and later support the url feature for
..cur and .ani cursor files:
<http://msdn2.microsoft .com/en-us/library/aa358795(VS.85) .aspx>
And I think the W3C wants you to specify a list of at least one URL plus
a backup e.g.
cursor: url(cursor1.cur ), auto;
so that the cursor is defined even if url is not supported.
Here is an example that works with IE 6: http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/wo...s/cursor_c.htm
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Martin Honnen http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/
On Apr 20, 1:29 pm, Martin Honnen <mahotr...@yaho o.dewrote:
>
As I said, I don't know of browser support for that feature, the IE
documentation suggests that IE 6 and later support the url feature for
.cur and .ani cursor files:
<http://msdn2.microsoft .com/en-us/library/aa358795(VS.85) .aspx>
I think it must be something I'm not doing...doesn't work in MSIE 7,
neither...what am I missing? Let's see...
style="cursor: url(db2.gif);"
For "url" am I supposed to put a pathname? Everything is offline
right now...
style="cursor:. ./images(db2.gif) ;"
No matter if I use absolute or relative paths, that doesn't work in
any browser. I think I'm not using the format correctly, but I don't
know where I'm doing something wrong.
And I think the W3C wants you to specify a list of at least one URL plus
a backup e.g.
cursor: url(cursor1.cur ), auto;
so that the cursor is defined even if url is not supported.
Here is an example that works with IE 6:http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/wo...or/dhtml/refs/...
FANTASTIC!!
Strange thing, though...using IE 7 (does *not* work in FF or Opera),
only Cursor #1 works; Cursor #2 is like a dead link or something;
nothing happens, no change in mouse pointer graphic...guess they
forgot to load up an image file or something!
OMG, I can't believe MSIE is more W3C-compliant than FF and Opera!!
LOL!!
Oddly enough, I can't apply my own graphic for some reason...are the
files supposed to end in ".cur" for some reason?? I must be doing
something wrong in how I'm telling the browser to "use *this*
file"....
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Martin Honnen
http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/
Strange news!!
First of all, I was indeed incorrect in my usage. For the record,
proper usage is
style="cursor: url(relative/path/file.ani);"
The relative path goes in the parentheses, and it *must* point to
a .ani or .cur file. I was using a .gif as a test file originally,
but that simply *cannot* work, ever.
However, the really odd thing is that you cannot use a "fall-back"
like
style="cursor: url(relative/path/file.ani); cursor:pointer; "
as is recommended, in case the browser didn't understand...we ll,
nothing worked in MSIE 7 until I had *removed* that "fall-back,"
"cursor:pointer "!
So
style="cursor: url(relative/path/file.ani); cursor:pointer; "
doesn't work, even in MSIE 7, but
style="cursor: url(relative/path/file.ani);"
does!
So, the custom pointer can only show up in MSIE 7, but only if the
"fall-back" hand pointer used by Opera and Firefox isn't present --
else MSIE 7 "prefers" it and uses it, instead of the custom pointer!!
?!?!?!
Prisoner at War meinte:
However, the really odd thing is that you cannot use a "fall-back"
like
style="cursor: url(relative/path/file.ani); cursor:pointer; "
(a) This has nothing to do with JS.
(b) This is not a fallback. You just overwrite your custom-pointer
property with the standard one. In your case you will *always* get a
cursor: pointer.
as is recommended, in case the browser didn't understand...we ll,
nothing worked in MSIE 7 until I had *removed* that "fall-back,"
"cursor:pointer "!
Small wonder...
style="cursor: url(relative/path/file.ani); cursor:pointer; "
doesn't work, even in MSIE 7, but
style="cursor: url(relative/path/file.ani);"
does!
So, the custom pointer can only show up in MSIE 7, but only if the
"fall-back" hand pointer used by Opera and Firefox isn't present --
else MSIE 7 "prefers" it and uses it, instead of the custom pointer!!
How about
(a) obtaining some *basic* knoledge of css
(b) post into newsgroups dealing with those issues
x'post and f'up set
Gregor
-- http://photo.gregorkofler.at ::: Landschafts- und Reisefotografie http://web.gregorkofler.com ::: meine JS-Spielwiese http://www.image2d.com ::: Bildagentur für den alpinen Raum
On Apr 21, 4:31 am, Gregor Kofler <use...@gregork ofler.atwrote:
>
(a) This has nothing to do with JS.
True -- but having asked on comp.lang.javas cript about using
JavaScript, it's the answer I got. I now realize -- in less than a
day of research! -- that it's CSS, but I appreciate the answer all the
same.
(b) This is not a fallback.
So what's a fall-back, then?
You just overwrite your custom-pointer
property with the standard one. In your case you will *always* get a
cursor: pointer.
I thought I was simply following the instructions on something like http://www.quirksmode.org/css/cursor.html....
Small wonder...
Actually, it's a real puzzle how MSIE 7 is more W3C-compliant over
this little thing than Opera and even Firefox!
How about
(a) obtaining some *basic* knoledge of css
I've got enough to customize existing CSS files for my own needs.
That seems "basic" enough to me.
Moreover, I just don't think a newsgroup should be an invitation-only
symposium. This is the information superhighway -- new drivers get on
the road all the time.
(b) post into newsgroups dealing with those issues
I have been, actually, even if unbeknownst to you.
x'post and f'up set
?
Gregor
--http://photo.gregorkof ler.at::: Landschafts- und Reisefotografie http://web.gregorkofle r.com ::: meine JS-Spielwiesehttp://www.image2d.com ::: Bildagentur für den alpinen Raum
Prisoner at War wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:31 am, Gregor Kofler <use...@gregork ofler.atwrote:
>You just overwrite your custom-pointer
property with the standard one. In your case you will *always* get a
cursor: pointer.
I thought I was simply following the instructions on something like
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/cursor.html....
>Small wonder...
Actually, it's a real puzzle how MSIE 7 is more W3C-compliant over
this little thing than Opera and even Firefox!
Eh? How to get that? Firefox does support 'hand'. 'hand' is a MS
invention. IE7 does not support 'url' or other graphic formats which is
part of the W3 recommendation. If graphic is use FF for does require a
generic fallback but this too is in keeping with the recommendation:
"The user agent retrieves the cursor from the resource designated by the
URI. If the user agent cannot handle the first cursor of a list of
cursors, it should attempt to handle the second, etc. If the user agent
cannot handle any user-defined cursor, *it must use the generic cursor
at the end of the list.*"
--
Take care,
Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Eh? How to get that? Firefox does support 'hand'. 'hand' is a MS
invention. IE7 does not support 'url' or other graphic formats which is
part of the W3 recommendation.
IE7 should support 'url'; the question is the format of the graphic
file that represents the custom cursor.
If graphic is use FF for does require a generic fallback but this too
is in keeping with the recommendation:
"The user agent retrieves the cursor from the resource designated by the
URI. If the user agent cannot handle the first cursor of a list of
cursors, it should attempt to handle the second, etc. If the user agent
cannot handle any user-defined cursor, *it must use the generic cursor
at the end of the list.*"
I think this is the best rule of thumb in practice indeed:
cursor: url('cursor.cur '), url('cursor.ani '),
url('cursor.png '), url('cursor.svg '), auto;
In conjunction with a great image converter like: http://www.irfanview.com
A strange remark from W3: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/interact.html#CursorElement
| A recommended approach for defining a platform-independent
| custom cursor is to create a PNG [PNG01] image [...]
I couldn't get PNG01 to work at least on MSIE. But then, even their
own demo on MSDN doesn't seem to work here (Vista MSIE 7.0.6., second
button '#2'): http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/wo...s/cursor_c.htm
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