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navti said:
>
>The only way a webserver can compromise a client in the way you described
is eiter:
1.) A signed Java Applet where you explicitly have ansvered "Yes" when
asked if you wanted to let the applet run.
2.) A signed ActiveX control where you explicitly have ansvered "Yes"
when
asked if you wanted to let the control run.
3.) Any ActiveX control, and you have the security settings of your
browser
wide-open.
Neither PHP nor JavaScript is able to access your files.
what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to visit a
malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the client doesnt
have to do anything to give up his data to a malicious website so why
are you denying it ?
You know this for a fact? Can you name such a site?
Or did this happen to a friend of a friend?
--
"navti" <na****@gmail.c omwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ p77g2000hsh.goo glegroups.com.. .
what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to visit a
malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the client doesnt
have to do anything to give up his data to a malicious website so why
are you denying it ?
If your system is so insecure that this can happen then you should unplug
your system from the internet. It's unsafe.
On May 25, 10:53 am, Lee <REM0VElbspamt. ..@cox.netwrote :
navti said:
The only way a webserver can compromise a client in the way you described
is eiter:
1.) A signed Java Applet where you explicitly have ansvered "Yes" when
asked if you wanted to let the applet run.
2.) A signed ActiveX control where you explicitly have ansvered "Yes"
when
asked if you wanted to let the control run.
3.) Any ActiveX control, and you have the security settings of your
browser
wide-open.
Neither PHP nor JavaScript is able to access your files.
what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to visit a
malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the client doesnt
have to do anything to give up his data to a malicious website so why
are you denying it ?
You know this for a fact? Can you name such a site?
Or did this happen to a friend of a friend?
--
it happened to me on windoze which is why i scrapped windoze for mac
os x and linux.
you guys are seriously trying to tell me yhou have never heard of
these kind of attacks ?
i suggest you visit some security websites to see how prevalent they
are and how easy they seem to be to execute.
On May 25, 11:20 am, "rf" <r...@invalid.c omwrote:
"navti" <nav...@gmail.c omwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ p77g2000hsh.goo glegroups.com.. .
what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to visit a
malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the client doesnt
have to do anything to give up his data to a malicious website so why
are you denying it ?
If your system is so insecure that this can happen then you should unplug
your system from the internet. It's unsafe.
i did, it was called windows and i replaced it with a secure system
called os x,
navti wrote:
>The only way a webserver can compromise a client in the way you
described is eiter:
1.) A signed Java Applet where you explicitly have ansvered
"Yes" when asked if you wanted to let the applet run.
2.) A signed ActiveX control where you explicitly have ansvered
"Yes" when
asked if you wanted to let the control run.
3.) Any ActiveX control, and you have the security settings of
your browser
wide-open.
Neither PHP nor JavaScript is able to access your files.
what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to visit a
malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the client doesnt
have to do anything to give up his data to a malicious website so why
are you denying it ?
Prove it!
Prove it by posting a link to such a site, and I'll go there myself
with all my different browsers to see if you are right!
--
Dag.
navti wrote:
On May 25, 10:53 am, Lee <REM0VElbspamt. ..@cox.netwrote :
>navti said:
>>>The only way a webserver can compromise a client in the way you
described is eiter:
1.) A signed Java Applet where you explicitly have ansvered
"Yes" when asked if you wanted to let the applet run.
2.) A signed ActiveX control where you explicitly have
ansvered "Yes" when
asked if you wanted to let the control run.
3.) Any ActiveX control, and you have the security settings of
your browser
wide-open.
>>>Neither PHP nor JavaScript is able to access your files.
>>what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to visit a
malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the client
doesnt have to do anything to give up his data to a malicious
website so why are you denying it ?
You know this for a fact? Can you name such a site?
Or did this happen to a friend of a friend?
--
it happened to me on windoze which is why i scrapped windoze for mac
os x and linux.
you guys are seriously trying to tell me yhou have never heard of
these kind of attacks ?
i suggest you visit some security websites to see how prevalent they
are and how easy they seem to be to execute.
The only way that can happen is in scenario 3.) above when using IE.
And then only when someone have manually turned off the default security
settings in IE first.
I suggest you post a link to this "Magic" malicious site...
--
Dag.
On May 25, 1:57 pm, "Dag Sunde" <m...@dagsunde. comwrote:
navti wrote:
On May 25, 10:53 am, Lee <REM0VElbspamt. ..@cox.netwrote :
navti said:
>>The only way a webserver can compromise a client in the way you
described is eiter:
1.) A signed Java Applet where you explicitly have ansvered
"Yes" when asked if you wanted to let the applet run.
2.) A signed ActiveX control where you explicitly have
ansvered "Yes" when
asked if you wanted to let the control run.
3.) Any ActiveX control, and you have the security settings of
your browser
wide-open.
>>Neither PHP nor JavaScript is able to access your files.
>what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to visit a
malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the client
doesnt have to do anything to give up his data to a malicious
website so why are you denying it ?
You know this for a fact? Can you name such a site?
Or did this happen to a friend of a friend?
--
it happened to me on windoze which is why i scrapped windoze for mac
os x and linux.
you guys are seriously trying to tell me yhou have never heard of
these kind of attacks ?
i suggest you visit some security websites to see how prevalent they
are and how easy they seem to be to execute.
The only way that can happen is in scenario 3.) above when using IE.
And then only when someone have manually turned off the default security
settings in IE first.
I suggest you post a link to this "Magic" malicious site...
--
Dag.
there are thousands of sites which can harm your computer.
most are porn etc
tell me you are pulling my leg ?
you have never heard of webattacker, xss etc etc
"Dag Sunde" <me@dagsunde.co mwrote in message
news:46******** **************@ news.wineasy.se ...
navti wrote:
>>The only way a webserver can compromise a client in the way you
described is eiter:
1.) A signed Java Applet where you explicitly have ansvered
"Yes" when asked if you wanted to let the applet run.
2.) A signed ActiveX control where you explicitly have ansvered
"Yes" when
asked if you wanted to let the control run.
3.) Any ActiveX control, and you have the security settings of
your browser
wide-open.
Neither PHP nor JavaScript is able to access your files.
what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to visit a
malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the client doesnt
have to do anything to give up his data to a malicious website so why
are you denying it ?
Prove it!
Prove it by posting a link to such a site, and I'll go there myself
with all my different browsers to see if you are right!
Aren't you starting to get an image of a short squat fellow domiciled beneath
an over water conveyance structure...
--
Dag.
navti wrote:
On May 25, 1:57 pm, "Dag Sunde" <m...@dagsunde. comwrote:
>navti wrote:
>>On May 25, 10:53 am, Lee <REM0VElbspamt. ..@cox.netwrote :
navti said:
>>>>>The only way a webserver can compromise a client in the way you
>describe d is eiter:
> 1.) A signed Java Applet where you explicitly have ansvered
> "Yes" when asked if you wanted to let the applet run.
> 2.) A signed ActiveX control where you explicitly have
>ansvered "Yes" when
> asked if you wanted to let the control run.
> 3.) Any ActiveX control, and you have the security settings
>of your browser
> wide-open.
>>>>>Neither PHP nor JavaScript is able to access your files.
>>>>what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to
visit a malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the
client doesnt have to do anything to give up his data to a
malicious website so why are you denying it ?
>>>You know this for a fact? Can you name such a site?
Or did this happen to a friend of a friend?
>>>--
>>it happened to me on windoze which is why i scrapped windoze for mac
os x and linux.
>>you guys are seriously trying to tell me yhou have never heard of
these kind of attacks ?
>>i suggest you visit some security websites to see how prevalent they
are and how easy they seem to be to execute.
The only way that can happen is in scenario 3.) above when using IE.
And then only when someone have manually turned off the default
security settings in IE first.
I suggest you post a link to this "Magic" malicious site...
--
Dag.
there are thousands of sites which can harm your computer.
most are porn etc
I promise not to blush... Post a harmful link!
>
tell me you are pulling my leg ?
No, definitely not!
you have never heard of webattacker, xss etc etc
Of course I have, but those is only harmful to those that have opened
up the default security settings of their browsers... javaScript alone
can't do any harm to my computer. And neither can Applets or ActiveX
controls without me giving them explicit permission to do so.
This thread started with you claiming that an "enemy's" web-site
managed to access your computer
<quote>
>i visited a website of an enemy and he not only did a listing of my
local files he also copied them to his server. im pretty certqain he
was using javascript.
</quote>
Post a link to this site. It is in everybody's interest that you do so.
--
Dag.
On 25 May, 16:53, "Dag Sunde" <m...@dagsunde. comwrote:
navti wrote:
On May 25, 1:57 pm, "Dag Sunde" <m...@dagsunde. comwrote:
navti wrote:
On May 25, 10:53 am, Lee <REM0VElbspamt. ..@cox.netwrote :
navti said:
>>>>The only way a webserver can compromise a client in the way you
described is eiter:
1.) A signed Java Applet where you explicitly have ansvered
"Yes" when asked if you wanted to let the applet run.
2.) A signed ActiveX control where you explicitly have
ansvered "Yes" when
asked if you wanted to let the control run.
3.) Any ActiveX control, and you have the security settings
of your browser
wide-open.
>>>>Neither PHP nor JavaScript is able to access your files.
>>>what about drive by downloads where the client simply has to
visit a malicious web site to be compromised ? you know that the
client doesnt have to do anything to give up his data to a
malicious website so why are you denying it ?
>>You know this for a fact? Can you name such a site?
Or did this happen to a friend of a friend?
>>--
>it happened to me on windoze which is why i scrapped windoze for mac
os x and linux.
>you guys are seriously trying to tell me yhou have never heard of
these kind of attacks ?
>i suggest you visit some security websites to see how prevalent they
are and how easy they seem to be to execute.
The only way that can happen is in scenario 3.) above when using IE.
And then only when someone have manually turned off the default
security settings in IE first.
I suggest you post a link to this "Magic" malicious site...
--
Dag.
there are thousands of sites which can harm your computer.
most are porn etc
I promise not to blush... Post a harmful link!
tell me you are pulling my leg ?
No, definitely not!
you have never heard of webattacker, xss etc etc
Of course I have, but those is only harmful to those that have opened
up the default security settings of their browsers... javaScript alone
can't do any harm to my computer. And neither can Applets or ActiveX
controls without me giving them explicit permission to do so.
This thread started with you claiming that an "enemy's" web-site
managed to access your computer
<quote>
>i visited a website of an enemy and he not only did a listing of my
>local files he also copied them to his server. im pretty certqain he
>was using javascript.
</quote>
Post a link to this site. It is in everybody's interest that you do so.
--
Dag.
Dag
this happened a while ago and the site is long gone,
you must know that these sites only stay online for a few days before
they are pulled down,
i am interested to know how he got hold of my files.
he pointed me to some of his websites and i went and had a look, i
clicked a few links and hey presto my hard drive starts churning,
by the time i realised what had happened he had nicked my files. i
know this because he got my telephone numebr and email and home
address from my resume which was on my desktop . i certainly never
sent it to him,.
this has happened to me since and i have wiped windows off my
remaining PC and installed linux.
i got rid of my ibm thinkpad and got myself a powerbook.
i am now rid of the virus called windows.,
We both know this happens all the time on windows so why are you
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