Ajax library

[paladin.rithe]

I was looking at libraries for my project, and was thinking about using
Prototype, but I was seeing that people have reservations about it.
All I really need is some basic Ajax stuff, the basic XMLHttpRequest
stuff. I will probably add on to that with my own stuff as I need it.
I've seen one called advAjax, but the documentation is about as bad as
Prototype IMHO. I was having trouble figuring it out.
Are there other basic libraries that I could use? I could write my own
I guess, but as I am not that good at JavaScript yet, I would rather
use one and build on with my own stuff. Any ideas?

[Yanick]

Yanick wrote:
[snip]

>
You could also look for Echo2 that is very impressive, but costly :
http://www.nextapp.com/platform/echo2/echo/

Not !! Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing right, EchoStudio cost
money ; the whole library is free under the GNU LGPL License. My
mistake !!

[Randy Webb]

Yanick said the following on 10/22/2006 2:57 PM:

Matt Kruse wrote:

>halans wrote:

>>Look at what others are using (865 respondents)...
http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajaxianc...survey-results

Popularity is often not a good indicator of quality. Especially in the world
of javascript.

Perhaps Prototype lacks in clarity, but if you follow closely the
project, the library had some changes since v.1.4.0... (with backward
compatibilities ). Don't be so quick to discard something ; if so many
people use it, it's because it is stable in many browsers (even some
that I've never heard of)

The fact that "many people use it" doesn't mean anything. Many people
still use document.all and eval even though both are not that good to use.

So, the general idea is : do not only read what others say, try it
yourself, even if people don't agree with it. Besides, if Prototype is
so bad, why is it hosted (and included) in the Ruby on rails package ?

Because the Ruby on rails package doesn't know any better?

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[Peter Michaux]

So, the general idea is : do not only read what others say, try it

yourself, even if people don't agree with it. Besides, if Prototype is
so bad, why is it hosted (and included) in the Ruby on rails package ?

Prototype seems to be a interesting experiment in JavaScript
programming that I think was worth trying but it failed as pointed out
by the knowledgable regulars on this group. I don't think Prototype was
included in Rails because it was considered a model of incredible
JavaScript programming. I think it is there because DHH didn't want to
write client-side code because he didn't have the interest or time.
Sam's Prototype was around and available (legally or otherwise) for
inclusion. Prototype is the obvious weeping sore in the Rails world. I
like Rails and the RJS idea. But no Prototype for me.

[Marek Dudzik]

This framework looks pretty nice, but the demo is damn slow, or isn't it?

Marek

Yanick schrieb:

Yanick wrote:
[snip]

>You could also look for Echo2 that is very impressive, but costly :
http://www.nextapp.com/platform/echo2/echo/

Not !! Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing right, EchoStudio cost
money ; the whole library is free under the GNU LGPL License. My
mistake !!

[paladin.rithe]

I mean AJAX, not UI widgets. I've been playing around with Matt's, and
it works well for what I need I think. I may play around with
Prototype, but it does more than I need. But it wouldn't affect me
because whatever I use is what I'll use, I really won't add on too much
other than my own stuff, or things that are compatable. Thanks for all
the input everyone.

TheBagbournes wrote:

pa***********@g mail.com wrote:

I was looking at libraries for my project, and was thinking about using
Prototype, but I was seeing that people have reservations about it.
All I really need is some basic Ajax stuff, the basic XMLHttpRequest
stuff. I will probably add on to that with my own stuff as I need it.
I've seen one called advAjax, but the documentation is about as bad as
Prototype IMHO. I was having trouble figuring it out.
Are there other basic libraries that I could use? I could write my own
I guess, but as I am not that good at JavaScript yet, I would rather
use one and build on with my own stuff. Any ideas?

Ajax, or UI widgets? Which are you inquiring about?

Someone needs to seperate these two!

For "Ajax" functionality - which I take to mean background calls to the server using XMLHttpRequests and incremental updates of the document, I'd recommend DWR if you have a Java backend. This enables you to export certain interfaces to the browser, and call methods on the server and process the return value (which may be a fully-fledged Object) in a callback. http://getahead.ltd.uk/dwr/

For well-documented, stable, capable UI widgets, I'd go for http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ complemented by http://www.jackslocum.com/yui/index.php Other widget libraries I've seen are all flaky, slow, undocumented, and generally NOT usable in the real world!