Open window full size without javascript

[Mark]

Hello;

Here is what I wish to do:

Click on a PDF link and have it open as a full screen window - not as
a predetermined size.

Sounds simple?

I want to run the command from within the href only. I don't want to
have to create an HTML page for each PDF file.

This is the link.

<a href="pdf-PPT/05_70857_PPT30x 80.pdf" target="_blank"
onClick="open(' pdf-PPT/05_70857_PPT30x 80.pdf','miniwi n','toolbar=0,l ocation=0,direc tories=0,status =1,titlebar=1,m enubar=0,scroll bars=0,left=0,t op=0,screenX=0, screenY=0');
return false;".....

Thanks in advance...

[kaeli]

In article <a0************ **************@ posting.google. com>, ma***@wssl.com
enlightened us with...

Hello;

Here is what I wish to do:
Are you sure your users want it?

Click on a PDF link and have it open as a full screen window - not as
a predetermined size.
What do you really mean by fullscreen?
Most people HATE fullscreen. Did you really mean maximized?

Sounds simple?

Sound irritating.
I never use my full browser screen for one window.
It's never a good idea to mess with people's windows unless it is an
application where you know your users and they asked for it.

Clarify what you want...real fullscreen is different from maximized.

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[Andrew Thompson]

On 8 Nov 2004 10:30:03 -0800, Mark wrote:

Here is what I wish to do:

Click on a PDF link and have it open as a full screen window - not as
a predetermined size.

Sounds simple?

Sure. E.G. If using IE, hit F-11.

Now, if you mean you wish to force a (pop-up) window to full-screen
on my box, I'd add 'Leave *my* browser the hell alone, and stop
using pop-ups. I know how to get new windows whenever I want them'.

HTH

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[DU]

Mark wrote:

Hello;

Here is what I wish to do:

Click on a PDF link and have it open as a full screen window - not as
a predetermined size.

Sounds simple?

Sounds like a very bad idea, irritating users. PDF on top of all this!
It takes long to load, long to run, requires much on the users' system
resources and often the pdf resource is big (over 100KB).
I want to run the command from within the href only. I don't want to
have to create an HTML page for each PDF file.

This is the link.

<a href="pdf-PPT/05_70857_PPT30x 80.pdf" target="_blank"
onClick="open(' pdf-PPT/05_70857_PPT30x 80.pdf','miniwi n','toolbar=0,l ocation=0,direc tories=0,status =1,titlebar=1,m enubar=0,scroll bars=0,left=0,t op=0,screenX=0, screenY=0');
return false;".....

Thanks in advance...

I agree entirely with what kaeli and A. Thompson replied to you.
Your link is incoherent also: you strictly want an unnamed window but,
at the same time, you are naming it miniwin. On top of that, you want to
create a crippled window which is as bad as a fullscreen browser window.
You do not even notify in advance your users that clicking such link
opens up a .pdf resource in a non-reusable, non-recyclable secondary window.
Your webpage design should address several usability and accessibility
issues first.

DU
--
The site said to use Internet Explorer 5 or better... so I switched to
Mozilla 1.7.3 :)

[Mark]

DU <dr*******@hotN OSPAMmail.com> wrote in message news:<2v******* ******@uni-berlin.de>...

Mark wrote:

Hello;

Here is what I wish to do:

Click on a PDF link and have it open as a full screen window - not as
a predetermined size.

Sounds simple?

Sounds like a very bad idea, irritating users. PDF on top of all this!
It takes long to load, long to run, requires much on the users' system
resources and often the pdf resource is big (over 100KB).

I want to run the command from within the href only. I don't want to
have to create an HTML page for each PDF file.

This is the link.

<a href="pdf-PPT/05_70857_PPT30x 80.pdf" target="_blank"
onClick="open(' pdf-PPT/05_70857_PPT30x 80.pdf','miniwi n','toolbar=0,l ocation=0,direc tories=0,status =1,titlebar=1,m enubar=0,scroll bars=0,left=0,t op=0,screenX=0, screenY=0');
return false;".....

Thanks in advance...

I agree entirely with what kaeli and A. Thompson replied to you.
Your link is incoherent also: you strictly want an unnamed window but,
at the same time, you are naming it miniwin. On top of that, you want to
create a crippled window which is as bad as a fullscreen browser window.
You do not even notify in advance your users that clicking such link
opens up a .pdf resource in a non-reusable, non-recyclable secondary window.
Your webpage design should address several usability and accessibility
issues first.

DU

Okay - first of all - thanks for wasting my time. If you don't know
how to help me, shut yer yap. Morons.

Secondly, I would like a maximized window, not full-screen. My fault
for not clarifying.

Thirdly, if you don't define a name for the window, the browser locks
up on after clicking the link.

Lastly, who said anything about website design? This is for a CD that
will be given out to a small handfull of people, all of which we know
personally, and I assure you that none of you are them. So don't worry
about being annoyed.

[Michael Winter]

On 9 Nov 2004 06:48:54 -0800, Mark <ma***@wssl.com > wrote:

[snip]

Okay - first of all - thanks for wasting my time.
If you don't post a clear question, it is *you* that is wasting *our* time.
If you don't know how to help me, shut yer yap. Morons.
To call them morons is not wise. Insulting people for your errors won't
yield answers and will probably get you ignored.

[snip]
Thirdly, if you don't define a name for the window, the browser locks
up on after clicking the link.
What DU was referring to is that the target attribute would create an
unnamed window, whilst the script would create a named one, so why not
have them refer to the same window? If it doesn't exist, the user agent
should create it with either approach. Alternatively, use _blank for both
to create new windows every time:

<a href="..." target="_blank"
onclick="window .open(this.href , this.target, '...');return false;">
Lastly, who said anything about website design?

The *vast* majority of questions refer to a Web environment, and unless
the poster states otherwise, that is the assumed circumstance. If you have
a more restrictive audience then it is up to you to say so otherwise you
won't receive the correct advice.

[snip]

By the way, I fail to see where the "without javascript" part of your
subject comes into your original post. Perhaps you meant "with javascript".

Mike

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[kaeli]

In article <opsg7ecwd6x13k vk@atlantis>, M.******@blueyo nder.co.invalid
enlightened us with...

On 9 Nov 2004 06:48:54 -0800, Mark <ma***@wssl.com > wrote:

[snip]

Okay - first of all - thanks for wasting my time.

If you don't post a clear question, it is *you* that is wasting *our* time.

If you don't know how to help me, shut yer yap. Morons.

To call them morons is not wise. Insulting people for your errors won't
yield answers and will probably get you ignored.

Yeah, pretty much.
I know how to do it, but after that little diatribe, I'll be darned if I'm
going out of my way to bother to post the solution.

This group assumes questions apply to the internet unless otherwise stated. I
believe that's in the FAQ for this group, too...

2.2 What questions are off-topic for clj?

clj deals with ECMAScript languages, so any questions about JavaScript or
JScript are welcome - however the group has a majority of questions about
using javascript in a web browser, please make it obvious which type of host
you are using javascript in.

Perhaps that should be modified from "what type of host" to "what type of
environment"...
Of course, I'd bet the OP didn't bother to READ the FAQ anyway. ;)

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it off.
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[DU]

Mark wrote:

DU <dr*******@hotN OSPAMmail.com> wrote in message news:<2v******* ******@uni-berlin.de>...

Mark wrote:

Hello;

Here is what I wish to do:

Click on a PDF link and have it open as a full screen window - not as
a predetermined size.

Sounds simple?

Sounds like a very bad idea, irritating users. PDF on top of all this!
It takes long to load, long to run, requires much on the users' system
resources and often the pdf resource is big (over 100KB).

I want to run the command from within the href only. I don't want to
have to create an HTML page for each PDF file.

This is the link.

<a href="pdf-PPT/05_70857_PPT30x 80.pdf" target="_blank"
onClick="ope n('pdf-PPT/05_70857_PPT30x 80.pdf','miniwi n','toolbar=0,l ocation=0,direc tories=0,status =1,titlebar=1,m enubar=0,scroll bars=0,left=0,t op=0,screenX=0, screenY=0');
return false;".....

Thanks in advance...

I agree entirely with what kaeli and A. Thompson replied to you.
Your link is incoherent also: you strictly want an unnamed window but,
at the same time, you are naming it miniwin. On top of that, you want to
create a crippled window which is as bad as a fullscreen browser window.
You do not even notify in advance your users that clicking such link
opens up a .pdf resource in a non-reusable, non-recyclable secondary window.
Your webpage design should address several usability and accessibility
issues first.

DU

Okay - first of all - thanks for wasting my time. If you don't know
how to help me, shut yer yap. Morons.

Rudeness and name-calling will not bring you help in any way in
newsgroups: they'll help you get censored, ignored, filtered.
We're all volunteering our time trying to first figure out what is the
whole issue with your post: if you want helpful feedback, then best is
to provide specific, clear, useful info regarding the whole issue. If
you want vague, evasive, obscur answers, then just post a few words with
general description.
Secondly, I would like a maximized window, not full-screen. My fault
for not clarifying.

Are you saying that your post cause several others to waste their
volunteer time trying to answer you?
Thirdly, if you don't define a name for the window, the browser locks
up on after clicking the link.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Your link as coded is
incoherent, inconsequent.
Lastly, who said anything about website design? This is for a CD that
will be given out to a small handfull of people,
Are you saying we should also be mind reading you over the internet?

all of which we know personally, and I assure you that none of you are them. So don't worry
about being annoyed.

Here's more annoyance and time waste for your personal friends:

PDF: Unfit for Human Consumption
Users Hate PDF
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030714.html

Avoid PDF for On-Screen Reading
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20010610.html

"Use link titles to provide users with a preview of where each link will
take them, *before* they have clicked on it."
Ten Good Deeds in Web Design
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/991003.html

"You always need to provide an *explicit warning when linking to files
in any other format than HTML* for at least two reasons:
o the user may not have the necessary software installed and it is very
impolite to make them wait (these files are usually bigger than simple
HTML) for something they can't use
o the non-standard file format will cause a non-standard behavior: for
example, a PDF file will start up Acrobat (if the user has it installed,
of course), thus giving users a nasty surprise in terms of an even
longer wait and the appearance of new and different interface controls"
J. Nielsen
Linking to Non-Standard Files Without Warning
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990530_comments.html

DU
--
The site said to use Internet Explorer 5 or better... so I switched to
Mozilla 1.7.3 :)