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How do I find where I am screwing up?

Using the following in Eudora, and equivalent links elsewhere, the URLs with
the # get truncated just before the #.

<a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Fail ureToDeleteTool bar"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Fail ureToDeleteTool bar<
br><br>
</a><a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Fail ureToDeleteTool bar"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Fail ureToDeleteTool bar<
br><br>
</a><a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Howa rdKaikow"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Howa rdKaikow<br><br >
</a><a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Howa rdKaikow"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Howa rdKaikow<br><br >

If I include alert(location. href), the URL is truncated on input to the
script.
For example, http://www.standards.com/links.html#...oDeleteToolbar gets
truncated to http://www.standards.com/links.html.
No problem if a ? is used instead of a #.

However, the following does not truncate the URL.

<p><a
href="links.htm l#FailureToDele teToolbar">#Fai lureToDeleteToo lbar</a></p>
<p><a
href="links.htm l?FailureToDele teToolbar">?Fai lureToDeleteToo lbar</a></p>

I expect that I am doing something wrong.
Any pointers?

function CompareBookmark s(bmkTarget)
{
return (locSearch== bmkTarget.toLow erCase());
}
var locHash=locatio n.hash.toLowerC ase().slice(1);
var locSearch=locat ion.search.toLo werCase().slice (1);
var lenHash=locHash .length;
var lenSearch=locSe arch.length;
var blnStatus=Boole an(false);
alert(location. href);
if((lenHash != 0) && (lenSearch != 0) || ((lenHash + lenSearch) == 0))
{
blnStatus = false;
}
else
{
blnStatus = true;
if(lenSearch == 0)
{
locSearch = locHash;
}
}
if (blnStatus)
{
if(CompareBookm arks("HowardKai kow")){
location.replac e("HowardKaikow .html");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("HowardKai kowServices")){
location.replac e("HowardKaikow Services.html") ;
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("SortPerfo rmanceCompariso n")){
location.replac e("Sorting/SortPerformance Comparison-Description.htm l");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("ThisandTh at")){
location.replac e("index.html#T hisandThat");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("CopyFileT oPrinter")){
location.replac e("ThisAndTha t/CopyFileToPrint er.html");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("WordVBABo oks")){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/WordVBABooks.ht m");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("WordBasic Books")){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/WordBasicBooks. htm");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("FailureTo DeleteToolbar") ){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/VBABugsFeatures/FailureToDelete Toolbar.html");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("SetRefere nceInWordProjec t")){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/SetReferenceInW ordProject.html ");
}
else {
alert(location. href + " is not a valid URL.\n" +
"You will be taken to http://www.standards.c om/index.html.");
location.replac e("index.html") ;
}
}
else {
alert(location. href + " is not a valid URL.\n" +
"You will be taken to http://www.standards.c om/index.html.");
location.replac e("index.html") ;
}


--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
Jul 23 '05
17 2084
I've further isolated the problem

If I use http://www.standards.com/test.html, the # and everything to the
right gets truncated by location.href.
No problem if I use http://www.standards.com/local.html.

--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
"Howard Kaikow" <ka****@standar ds.com> wrote in message
news:ck******** **@pyrite.mv.ne t...
How do I find where I am screwing up?

Using the following in Eudora, and equivalent links elsewhere, the URLs with the # get truncated just before the #.

<a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Fail ureToDeleteTool bar"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Fail ureToDeleteTool bar< br><br>
</a><a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Fail ureToDeleteTool bar"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Fail ureToDeleteTool bar< br><br>
</a><a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Howa rdKaikow"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Howa rdKaikow<br><br >
</a><a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Howa rdKaikow"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Howa rdKaikow<br><br >

If I include alert(location. href), the URL is truncated on input to the
script.
For example, http://www.standards.com/links.html#...oDeleteToolbar gets truncated to http://www.standards.com/links.html.
No problem if a ? is used instead of a #.

However, the following does not truncate the URL.

<p><a
href="links.htm l#FailureToDele teToolbar">#Fai lureToDeleteToo lbar</a></p>
<p><a
href="links.htm l?FailureToDele teToolbar">?Fai lureToDeleteToo lbar</a></p>

I expect that I am doing something wrong.
Any pointers?

function CompareBookmark s(bmkTarget)
{
return (locSearch== bmkTarget.toLow erCase());
}
var locHash=locatio n.hash.toLowerC ase().slice(1);
var locSearch=locat ion.search.toLo werCase().slice (1);
var lenHash=locHash .length;
var lenSearch=locSe arch.length;
var blnStatus=Boole an(false);
alert(location. href);
if((lenHash != 0) && (lenSearch != 0) || ((lenHash + lenSearch) == 0))
{
blnStatus = false;
}
else
{
blnStatus = true;
if(lenSearch == 0)
{
locSearch = locHash;
}
}
if (blnStatus)
{
if(CompareBookm arks("HowardKai kow")){
location.replac e("HowardKaikow .html");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("HowardKai kowServices")){
location.replac e("HowardKaikow Services.html") ;
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("SortPerfo rmanceCompariso n")){
location.replac e("Sorting/SortPerformance Comparison-Description.htm l");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("ThisandTh at")){
location.replac e("index.html#T hisandThat");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("CopyFileT oPrinter")){
location.replac e("ThisAndTha t/CopyFileToPrint er.html");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("WordVBABo oks")){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/WordVBABooks.ht m");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("WordBasic Books")){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/WordBasicBooks. htm");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("FailureTo DeleteToolbar") ){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/VBABugsFeatures/FailureToDelete Toolbar.html");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("SetRefere nceInWordProjec t")){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/SetReferenceInW ordProject.html ");
}
else {
alert(location. href + " is not a valid URL.\n" +
"You will be taken to http://www.standards.c om/index.html.");
location.replac e("index.html") ;
}
}
else {
alert(location. href + " is not a valid URL.\n" +
"You will be taken to http://www.standards.c om/index.html.");
location.replac e("index.html") ;
}


--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.

Jul 23 '05 #11
On 11/10/04 10:33 pm, Howard Kaikow wrote:
I've further isolated the problem

If I use http://www.standards.com/test.html, the # and everything to the
right gets truncated by location.href.
No problem if I use http://www.standards.com/local.html.


I've been looking back through your posts and I'm afraid I don't see what
the problem is.

If you want to pass information from one page to another, then adding a
search string to the URL is certainly one way of doing it. And you seem to
have demonstrated that it works perfectly for this purpose.

But why are you also trying to do the same thing with hashes? They aren't
supposed to be used for this purpose, so I'm not in the least bit surprised
they aren't working the way you want them to.

Phil

--
Philip Ronan
ph***********@v irgin.net
(Please remove the "z"s if replying by email)
Jul 23 '05 #12
"Philip Ronan" <ph***********@ virgin.net> wrote in message
news:BD90BD87.2 36BD%ph******** ***@virgin.net. ..
On 11/10/04 10:33 pm, Howard Kaikow wrote:
I've further isolated the problem

If I use http://www.standards.com/test.html, the # and everything to the
right gets truncated by location.href.
No problem if I use http://www.standards.com/local.html.
I've been looking back through your posts and I'm afraid I don't see what
the problem is.

If you want to pass information from one page to another, then adding a
search string to the URL is certainly one way of doing it. And you seem to
have demonstrated that it works perfectly for this purpose.

But why are you also trying to do the same thing with hashes? They aren't
supposed to be used for this purpose, so I'm not in the least bit

surprised they aren't working the way you want them to.


If I use http://www.standards.com/test.html, the # and everything to the
right gets truncated by location.href.

No problem if I use http://www.standards.com/local.html.

I consider that to be a bug since the # is handled inconsistently.

I agree that folkes should be using the ?, but there is no reason why I
should not allow the script to process the alternative with a #.
Some folkes have told me that certain other browsers pass the full URL, I
don't know why IE doesn't, as it does so in some circumstances.

Jul 23 '05 #13
On 12/10/04 1:34 am, Howard Kaikow wrote:
If I use http://www.standards.com/test.html, the # and everything to the
right gets truncated by location.href.

No problem if I use http://www.standards.com/local.html.

I consider that to be a bug since the # is handled inconsistently.
I still think this is a pointless exercise.

Anyhow, the links on your page at test.html seem to point to a 301 redirect
that tells the browser to go to www.mv.com/ipusers/standards/testlinks.html
instead:
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:46:42 GMT
Server: Apache
Location: http://www.mv.com/ipusers/standards/testlinks.html
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1


That's probably where things are going wrong. If you have nothing better to
do, perhaps you could write a custom redirect page that adds the hash part
to the Location header.

--
Philip Ronan
ph***********@v irgin.net
(Please remove the "z"s if replying by email)
Jul 23 '05 #14
I just figured out what is going on.
The problem is due to IE 6. IE 6 processes the following differently.

<a
href="http://www.standards.c om/index-test.html#Sorti ng">http://www.standards
..com/index-test.html#Sorti ng</a>
<a href="index-test.html#Sorti ng">index-test.html#Sorti ng</a>

Where "Sorting" is a real anchor name in index-test.html.

And, the following are processed differently by IE 6.
<a
href="http://www.standards.c om/index-test.html#NoSuc h">http://www.standards.
com/index-test.html#NoSuc h</a>
<a href="index-test.html#NoSuc h">index-test.html#NoSuc h</a>

Where "NoSuch" is NOT a real anchor name in index-test.html.

You can see this by trying both:

http://www.standards.com/index-HTTP.html
http://www.standards.com/index-local.html

Which uses http://www.standards.com/index-test.html, which will become my
new index.html shortly.
The script is now http://www.standards.com/links-index.js

IE seems to do this differtently than other browsers.
Folkes have informed there is no problem with Mozilla and Firefox.
Jul 23 '05 #15
According to my ISP, the problem is a function of the security level set in
IE, but they do not recall which.

Currently, my ISP maps www.standards.com to www.mv.com/ipusers/standards/,
and this seems to be what is confusing IE, tho Mozilla and FireFox have no
problems.

You can see this on http://www.standards.com/index-HTTP.html, which uses
both forms of the URL.

Anybody know which IE option causes this?
Jul 23 '05 #16
Today, my ISP made a modification to how they map an alias for my web site.
Apparently, howsoever they were previously mapping caused a problem for IE,
but not for Mozilla/FireFox.

Of course, the ISP claims that there was nothing wrong with what they were
previously doing.
In any case, whatever they were doing did cause a problem for IE, so there
remains unanswered the question of why Mozilla/FireFox did not have the same
problem.

I now have my script going thru my index.html and everything is working as
expected.

I will shortly be removing the other files referenced in this thread as the
problem is no longer reproducible since my ISP changed/corrected whatever at
their end.
--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
Jul 23 '05 #17
The explanation I've gotten is the following.

IE sends the url to the server, and the server sends back the redirected url
to the browser.
So IE is preserving queries, but not anchors, when a URL has been
redirected.

I would consider this to be a bug in IE, especially since Mozilla/FoxFire do
preserve the anchors.

I tried calling MSFT To report this problem, but they wanted to charge me
just to talk to the support folkes.
No way will I do that/
--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
"Howard Kaikow" <ka****@standar ds.com> wrote in message
news:ck******** **@pyrite.mv.ne t...
How do I find where I am screwing up?

Using the following in Eudora, and equivalent links elsewhere, the URLs with the # get truncated just before the #.

<a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Fail ureToDeleteTool bar"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Fail ureToDeleteTool bar< br><br>
</a><a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Fail ureToDeleteTool bar"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Fail ureToDeleteTool bar< br><br>
</a><a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Howa rdKaikow"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html?Howa rdKaikow<br><br >
</a><a href="http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Howa rdKaikow"
eudora="autourl ">http://www.standards.c om/links.html#Howa rdKaikow<br><br >

If I include alert(location. href), the URL is truncated on input to the
script.
For example, http://www.standards.com/links.html#...oDeleteToolbar gets truncated to http://www.standards.com/links.html.
No problem if a ? is used instead of a #.

However, the following does not truncate the URL.

<p><a
href="links.htm l#FailureToDele teToolbar">#Fai lureToDeleteToo lbar</a></p>
<p><a
href="links.htm l?FailureToDele teToolbar">?Fai lureToDeleteToo lbar</a></p>

I expect that I am doing something wrong.
Any pointers?

function CompareBookmark s(bmkTarget)
{
return (locSearch== bmkTarget.toLow erCase());
}
var locHash=locatio n.hash.toLowerC ase().slice(1);
var locSearch=locat ion.search.toLo werCase().slice (1);
var lenHash=locHash .length;
var lenSearch=locSe arch.length;
var blnStatus=Boole an(false);
alert(location. href);
if((lenHash != 0) && (lenSearch != 0) || ((lenHash + lenSearch) == 0))
{
blnStatus = false;
}
else
{
blnStatus = true;
if(lenSearch == 0)
{
locSearch = locHash;
}
}
if (blnStatus)
{
if(CompareBookm arks("HowardKai kow")){
location.replac e("HowardKaikow .html");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("HowardKai kowServices")){
location.replac e("HowardKaikow Services.html") ;
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("SortPerfo rmanceCompariso n")){
location.replac e("Sorting/SortPerformance Comparison-Description.htm l");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("ThisandTh at")){
location.replac e("index.html#T hisandThat");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("CopyFileT oPrinter")){
location.replac e("ThisAndTha t/CopyFileToPrint er.html");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("WordVBABo oks")){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/WordVBABooks.ht m");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("WordBasic Books")){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/WordBasicBooks. htm");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("FailureTo DeleteToolbar") ){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/VBABugsFeatures/FailureToDelete Toolbar.html");
}
else if(CompareBookm arks("SetRefere nceInWordProjec t")){
location.replac e("OhMyWord/SetReferenceInW ordProject.html ");
}
else {
alert(location. href + " is not a valid URL.\n" +
"You will be taken to http://www.standards.c om/index.html.");
location.replac e("index.html") ;
}
}
else {
alert(location. href + " is not a valid URL.\n" +
"You will be taken to http://www.standards.c om/index.html.");
location.replac e("index.html") ;
}


--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.

Jul 23 '05 #18

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