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What do Java programmers feel is missing from C#?

mc
I may be opening a can of worms and don't want to start a religious war,
but...

What features of Java do Java programmers miss when working in C#?

Other than, of course, great portability. C# has more limited
cross-platform portability (Mono).

I'm thinking more about data structures and ways to express algorithms.
Mar 8 '08 #1
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mc wrote:
I may be opening a can of worms and don't want to start a religious war,
but...

What features of Java do Java programmers miss when working in C#?

Other than, of course, great portability. C# has more limited
cross-platform portability (Mono).

I'm thinking more about data structures and ways to express algorithms.
I sort of liked fall-thru in switch statements, but I'm the first to
admit that it can lead to unreadable code.

The Java Language Reference mentions something called a Duff's Device,
which I never really understood and which C# would probably frown on
anyway. :)

dleifker

Mar 8 '08 #2
mc

"Dan Leifker" <dl******@leifk er.comwrote in message
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mc wrote:
>I may be opening a can of worms and don't want to start a religious war,
but...

What features of Java do Java programmers miss when working in C#?

Other than, of course, great portability. C# has more limited
cross-platform portability (Mono).

I'm thinking more about data structures and ways to express algorithms.

I sort of liked fall-thru in switch statements, but I'm the first to admit
that it can lead to unreadable code.
Actually, I think the switch statement is the most awkward thing in C#,
largely because it isn't the Fortran-like thing from C that it looks like.
I wish C# had adopted the Pascal case statement.
Mar 9 '08 #3
mc wrote:
I may be opening a can of worms and don't want to start a religious war,
but...

What features of Java do Java programmers miss when working in C#?

Other than, of course, great portability. C# has more limited
cross-platform portability (Mono).

I'm thinking more about data structures and ways to express algorithms.
I am just esthetically prefer Java. I think Java is simpler language.
There is no properties, no defined operators, no delegates - for me it
makes everything more clear. I know only one language that is comparable
in transparency - C.
I also liked Java collections Api and general API more - just preference.
Java has checked exceptions and this makes dealing with exceptions more
easy - you mostly know which exceptions you can expect.
JavaDoc - is more clear that C# XML Docs, and in my opinion leads to
better quality API descriptions.
I prefer Java Strict package / folder structure to unclear C# conventions.
Mar 9 '08 #4
mc wrote:
Actually, I think the switch statement is the most awkward thing in C#,
largely because it isn't the Fortran-like thing from C that it looks like.
I wish C# had adopted the Pascal case statement.
But I seem to recall (good grief, I learned Pascal in 1981) that the
Pascal case statement had no default/otherwise/else, right? Well, I
don't think it did on that creaking Univac we used, but I just Googled
it and and I guess other flavors of Pascal did support it.

See also Brian Kernighan's famous paper about Pascal at:

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs...on-pascal.html

One bit of trivia about the Java default (I think) is that it can occur
anywhere in the case sequence, even at the top.

cheers
dleifker
Mar 9 '08 #5
mc
>I wish C# had adopted the Pascal case statement.
>
But I seem to recall (good grief, I learned Pascal in 1981) that the
Pascal case statement had no default/otherwise/else, right? Well, I don't
think it did on that creaking Univac we used, but I just Googled it and
and I guess other flavors of Pascal did support it.
Yes... when I say Pascal I really mean Turbo Pascal and Delphi. Early
Pascal was impoverished in some ways, as Kernighan pointed out in the paper
you cite.
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs...on-pascal.html


Mar 9 '08 #6
Well now that just has to be the IDE... Visual Studio is just so 1990's

"mc" <lo**@www.ai.ug a.edu.for.addre sswrote in message
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>I may be opening a can of worms and don't want to start a religious war,
but...

What features of Java do Java programmers miss when working in C#?

Other than, of course, great portability. C# has more limited
cross-platform portability (Mono).

I'm thinking more about data structures and ways to express algorithms.


Mar 9 '08 #7
mc

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Well now that just has to be the IDE... Visual Studio is just so 1990's
What kind of IDE do you prefer?

>
"mc" <lo**@www.ai.ug a.edu.for.addre sswrote in message
news:4f******** *********@bigne ws5.bellsouth.n et...
>>I may be opening a can of worms and don't want to start a religious war,
but...

What features of Java do Java programmers miss when working in C#?

Other than, of course, great portability. C# has more limited
cross-platform portability (Mono).

I'm thinking more about data structures and ways to express algorithms.



Mar 10 '08 #8
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 10:26:56 -0500, "mc"
<lo**@www.ai.ug a.edu.for.addre sswrote:
>I may be opening a can of worms and don't want to start a religious war,
but...

What features of Java do Java programmers miss when working in C#?
I miss the slow performance of Java and overall lack of productivity
and the vast amount of crappy offshored leftover code I used to work
on.

I get so much more done in C# it leaves me longing for that crappy
Java environment I left behind.
Mar 11 '08 #9
Harry Walters wrote:
I miss the slow performance of Java and overall lack of productivity
and the vast amount of crappy offshored leftover code I used to work
on.

I get so much more done in C# it leaves me longing for that crappy
Java environment I left behind.
I did a quick Google search for "java c# benchmark" (try it yourself)
and it seems that it's only that offshored code that is slow and crappy
and not Java itself, because all benchmarks I could find concludes that
Java is way faster than C#.
Mar 11 '08 #10

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