Thumbnail gallery without tables?

[Max Quordlepleen]

Apologies for the crossposting, I wasn't sure which of these groups to
ask this in.

I have been lurking in these groups for a week or so, trying to glean
what I need to design a simple, clean set of pages that get the w3c
tick for XHTML 1.0 Strict, and CSS2. So far, I have succeeded, thanks
to the great information in these groups.

Now, however, I'm having trouble. A few days ago, I read a thread that
dealt with this issue of table-less thumbnails, and one example of an
approach that worked was
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~egea/Pho...ry/Virpiniemi/. This page
renders properly for me in my Gecko browsers, and iCapture shows it as
rendering properly in Safari, but in IE6, the thumbnails are lined up
vertically in a single column. I am very pleased to have been able to
avoid using any tables at all so far, and would love to keep this
up. May I ask for suggestions on how to achieve a plain, boring
table-like gallery in CSS2, sans tables?

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[Els]

Max Quordlepleen wrote:

Apologies for the crossposting, I wasn't sure which of these groups to
ask this in.

I have been lurking in these groups for a week or so, trying to glean
what I need to design a simple, clean set of pages that get the w3c
tick for XHTML 1.0 Strict, and CSS2. So far, I have succeeded, thanks
to the great information in these groups.

Now, however, I'm having trouble. A few days ago, I read a thread that
dealt with this issue of table-less thumbnails, and one example of an
approach that worked was
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~egea/Pho...ry/Virpiniemi/. This page
renders properly for me in my Gecko browsers, and iCapture shows it as
rendering properly in Safari, but in IE6, the thumbnails are lined up
vertically in a single column.
Not in my IE6.0....
I am very pleased to have been able to
avoid using any tables at all so far, and would love to keep this
up. May I ask for suggestions on how to achieve a plain, boring
table-like gallery in CSS2, sans tables?

give them 'display:inline '. This way you can center them or
left align them, just like regular text.
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[Lauri Raittila]

In article Max Quordlepleen wrote:

Apologies for the crossposting, I wasn't sure which of these groups to
ask this in.

I have been lurking in these groups for a week or so, trying to glean
what I need to design a simple, clean set of pages that get the w3c
tick for XHTML 1.0 Strict, and CSS2. So far, I have succeeded, thanks
to the great information in these groups.

Now, however, I'm having trouble. A few days ago, I read a thread that
dealt with this issue of table-less thumbnails, and one example of an
approach that worked was
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~egea/Pho...ry/Virpiniemi/. This page
renders properly for me in my Gecko browsers, and iCapture shows it as
rendering properly in Safari, but in IE6, the thumbnails are lined up
vertically in a single column.
Could you specify which IE6 minor version? On what platform? IIRC have
tested on XP and 2000.
I am very pleased to have been able to
avoid using any tables at all so far, and would love to keep this
up. May I ask for suggestions on how to achieve a plain, boring
table-like gallery in CSS2, sans tables?

how about:
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~atlas/kuvat/

Does it happen there too?

(special interest as I did both sites)

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[Lauri Raittila]

In article Els wrote:

Max Quordlepleen wrote:

Apologies for the crossposting, I wasn't sure which of these groups to
ask this in.

I have been lurking in these groups for a week or so, trying to glean
what I need to design a simple, clean set of pages that get the w3c
tick for XHTML 1.0 Strict, and CSS2. So far, I have succeeded, thanks
to the great information in these groups.

Now, however, I'm having trouble. A few days ago, I read a thread that
dealt with this issue of table-less thumbnails, and one example of an
approach that worked was
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~egea/Pho...ry/Virpiniemi/. This page
renders properly for me in my Gecko browsers, and iCapture shows it as
rendering properly in Safari, but in IE6, the thumbnails are lined up
vertically in a single column.

Not in my IE6.0....

I am very pleased to have been able to
avoid using any tables at all so far, and would love to keep this
up. May I ask for suggestions on how to achieve a plain, boring
table-like gallery in CSS2, sans tables?

give them 'display:inline '. This way you can center them or
left align them, just like regular text.

Display:inline should not work as it does in IE, so it is useless when
you have captions.

but:
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~laurirai/www/css/gallery/

Uses inline for IE and inline-table for Opera 6 and 7 and bugless
browsers. Tried to aply float:left for mozilla, but html*somthing bug is
fixed in gecko, and it don't work anymore.

Why they don't they fix bugs that do some real harm, instead of fixing
useful bugs? There has been no big CSS fixes since Mozilla 1.
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tjsp., mutta älä lähetä samaa viestiä meilitse ja ryhmään.

[Max Quordlepleen]

Els <el*********@ti scali.nl> writes:

Not in my IE6.0....

Now _that's_ weird. My HTML editor is set to invoke my default browser
(K-Meleon), and my IE6, so that I can see how pages look in both. When
I open this page in the editor, and invoke IE6, the thumbs are
vertically aligned. When I paste the URL into an already open IE6
address bar, they are properly aligned. Very strange. Sorry for
troubling you, and thanks for the prompt, helpful response.

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[Els]

Lauri Raittila wrote:

In article Els wrote:

Max Quordlepleen wrote:

I am very pleased to have been able to
avoid using any tables at all so far, and would love to keep this
up. May I ask for suggestions on how to achieve a plain, boring
table-like gallery in CSS2, sans tables?
give them 'display:inline '. This way you can center them or
left align them, just like regular text.

Display:inline should not work as it does in IE, so it is useless when
you have captions.

True, I wasn't thinking of captions, actually, just the thumbs.
but:
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~laurirai/www/css/gallery/

Uses inline for IE and inline-table for Opera 6 and 7 and bugless
browsers. Tried to aply float:left for mozilla, but html*somthing bug is
fixed in gecko, and it don't work anymore.
The work of a webmaster/designer is never done...
All these manufacturers of browsers should really have a
maillist for webmasters, in which they tell exactly which
bugs they fix everytime they do... together with a
workaround if it was a useful bug ;-)

On a recent site I already resorted to little tables (two
cells) inside divs floating left. (where i didn't need it
centered)
That way I was able to define a height to the thumb and
caption together, so that when the caption is more than one
line, the divs don't start piling up at the end of the row.
Also it made it possible to have the horizontal thumbs not
top align with the vertical thumbs.
Why they don't they fix bugs that do some real harm, instead of fixing
useful bugs?
Maybe the useful bugs are just easier to fix :-)
There has been no big CSS fixes since Mozilla 1.

Good, I haven't memorized all CSS rules and bugs yet. Let 'm
wait till I have ;-)

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[Richard]

Lauri Raittila wrote:

In article Max Quordlepleen wrote:

Apologies for the crossposting, I wasn't sure which of these groups to
ask this in.

I have been lurking in these groups for a week or so, trying to glean
what I need to design a simple, clean set of pages that get the w3c
tick for XHTML 1.0 Strict, and CSS2. So far, I have succeeded, thanks
to the great information in these groups.

Now, however, I'm having trouble. A few days ago, I read a thread that
dealt with this issue of table-less thumbnails, and one example of an
approach that worked was
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~egea/Pho...ry/Virpiniemi/. This page
renders properly for me in my Gecko browsers, and iCapture shows it as
rendering properly in Safari, but in IE6, the thumbnails are lined up
vertically in a single column.

Could you specify which IE6 minor version? On what platform? IIRC have
tested on XP and 2000. I am very pleased to have been able to
avoid using any tables at all so far, and would love to keep this
up. May I ask for suggestions on how to achieve a plain, boring
table-like gallery in CSS2, sans tables?

how about:
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~atlas/kuvat/ Does it happen there too? (special interest as I did both sites)

Good job too. Shows up in my IE 6 just fine. The sites show 3 across.
1024x768.

[Sid Ismail]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:44:37 +1300, Max Quordlepleen <ma**@nonags.co m>
wrote:

: and one example of an
: approach that worked was
: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~egea/Pho...ry/Virpiniemi/. This page
: renders properly for me in my Gecko browsers, and iCapture shows it as
: rendering properly in Safari, but in IE6, the thumbnails are lined up
: vertically in a single column. I am very pleased to have been able to
: avoid using any tables at all so far, and would love to keep this
: up. May I ask for suggestions on how to achieve a plain, boring
: table-like gallery in CSS2, sans tables?
What in heaven's name is wrong with using tables for this application?
Especially if you have text captions under/above each image.

Tables is more universal than souped-up morse code.

Sid

[Els]

Sid Ismail wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:44:37 +1300, Max Quordlepleen <ma**@nonags.co m>
wrote:

: and one example of an
: approach that worked was
: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~egea/Pho...ry/Virpiniemi/. This page
: renders properly for me in my Gecko browsers, and iCapture shows it as
: rendering properly in Safari, but in IE6, the thumbnails are lined up
: vertically in a single column. I am very pleased to have been able to
: avoid using any tables at all so far, and would love to keep this
: up. May I ask for suggestions on how to achieve a plain, boring
: table-like gallery in CSS2, sans tables?

What in heaven's name is wrong with using tables for this application?
Especially if you have text captions under/above each image.

(lack of) flexibility :-)

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[Max Quordlepleen]

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:11:26 GMT, Lauri Raittila
<la***@raittila .cjb.net> proffered, in :
news:MP******** *************** *@news.individu al.net:

Could you specify which IE6 minor version? On what platform? IIRC
have tested on XP and 2000.

I am very pleased to have been able to
avoid using any tables at all so far, and would love to keep this
up. May I ask for suggestions on how to achieve a plain, boring
table-like gallery in CSS2, sans tables?

how about:
http://www.student.oulu.fi/~atlas/kuvat/

Does it happen there too?

(special interest as I did both sites)

Sorry, Lauri, it must have been some snafu when I downloaded the pages
to dissect in my HTML editor. when I visit the pages using IE6, they
are just fine. My sincere apologies.

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