Hey all,
Does anyone know if all the newer browsers support XHTML? My main target is
IE6/NN6+(firefox/mozilla/etc), but I'd like to know if Safari, Opera,
Konqueror, and other browsers also support it.
Anyone know of any major compatibility problems with XHTML?
How do older browsers, such as Netscape 4, react to the doctype?
TIA
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:48:00 -0500, kaeli <ti******@NOSPA M.comcast.net>
wrote:
Hey all,
Does anyone know if all the newer browsers support XHTML? My main target
is
IE6/NN6+(firefox/mozilla/etc), but I'd like to know if Safari, Opera,
Konqueror, and other browsers also support it.
Anyone know of any major compatibility problems with XHTML?
How do older browsers, such as Netscape 4, react to the doctype?
TIA
XHTML code is essentially HTML, and as such it's relatively portable to
different browsers. The real problem comes when you serve the document. If
you do not serve your XHTML as text/html, IE cannot handle it. However, in
this case browsers which could have parsed the XML will not. So it's a
choice: serve as text/html and lose the primary benefit of doing XHTML,
serve as application/xml+xhtml and lose the most prevalent UA, or work out
a complex content-negotiation craziness that allows you to serve the
proper document to the user despite what might be cached for them
someplace.
In short - as long as IE or any similar UA exists which holds market share
and cannot handle XHTML properly, HTML 4.01 is the best available way to
code the document.
kaeli wrote: Does anyone know if all the newer browsers support XHTML? My main target
is IE6/NN6+(firefox/mozilla/etc), but I'd like to know if Safari, Opera,
Konqueror, and other browsers also support it.
Real XHTML?
* Unsupported by IE, lynx and links.
* Supported by Gecko (Mozilla, Firefox, NN 6+ etc)
* Opera - I think has XHTML support.
* Safari - I think it fakes XHTML by treating application/xhtml+xml as
text/html.
XHTML served as text/html?
* Most browsers can error correct
* Emacs W3 (correctly under SGML rules) interprets XHTML self-closing tags
as elements followed by a >
How do older browsers, such as Netscape 4, react to the doctype?
They don't. Guessing the intelligence of the page author based on the
doctype is a new thing.
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In article <cf************ *******@news.de mon.co.uk>,
David Dorward <do*****@yahoo. com> wrote: Real XHTML?
* Safari - I think it fakes XHTML by treating application/xhtml+xml as
text/html.
It throws up a fatal error when the XHTML is not well-formed, for all it
is worth.
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David Dorward <do*****@yahoo. com> wrote: Real XHTML?
- - * Opera - I think has XHTML support.
In a sense. Some people might say it has too good support: it does not
recognize predefined entities like ä (this is permitted by XHTML
rules), and it refuses to display the page at all if there is a single
"well-formedness" error like missing end tag.
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:59:51 +0000 (UTC), Jukka K. Korpela
<jk******@cs.tu t.fi> wrote: David Dorward <do*****@yahoo. com> wrote:
Real XHTML?
- - * Opera - I think has XHTML support.
In a sense. Some people might say it has too good support: it does not
recognize predefined entities like ä (this is permitted by XHTML
rules), and it refuses to display the page at all if there is a single
"well-formedness" error like missing end tag.
The wellformedness issue is mandated by the XML specs; MSIE and Mozilla
also honor it. Opera renders as good as it can up until the error,
followed by an error message, while the latest releases of Mozilla will
only show an error message.
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"Jukka K. Korpela" <jk******@cs.tu t.fi> wrote: Real XHTML?- - * Opera - I think has XHTML support.
In a sense. Some people might say it has too good support: it does not
recognize predefined entities like ä
Incorrect.
and it refuses to display the page at all if there is a single
"well-formedness" error like missing end tag.
Also incorrect, that's the way Gecko based UAs work.
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In article <op************ **@news.individ ual.net>, ne*****@yahoo.c om
enlightened us with...
In short - as long as IE or any similar UA exists which holds market share
and cannot handle XHTML properly, HTML 4.01 is the best available way to
code the document.
Wow, you know, for such a popular browser, it doesn't seem to support much of
the new stuff. I can't get it to do XML right, either.
I was just using XML for passing some info to and from my applications, so I
figured I'd check out XHTML again. The last I checked on it, like a year or
more ago, it wasn't supported. I was hoping that would have changed. Guess
not.
Thanks to everyone who replied.
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David Dorward wrote: kaeli wrote:
Does anyone know if all the newer browsers support XHTML? My main target
is IE6/NN6+(firefox/mozilla/etc), but I'd like to know if Safari, Opera,
Konqueror, and other browsers also support it.
Real XHTML?
* Unsupported by IE, lynx and links.
...
* Safari - I think it fakes XHTML by treating application/xhtml+xml as
text/html.
BTW, the latest development version of Lynx also treats
application/xhtml+xml as text/html, which seems to be adequate for text
browsers (which don't have to bother with xml-stylesheet PIs, and CDATA
sections within script and style elements).
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:51:21 -0500, kaeli <ti******@NOSPA M.comcast.net>
wrote: Wow, you know, for such a popular browser, (IE) doesn't seem to support
much of
the new stuff.
As the old Lily Tomlin line goes, "We don't have to care. We're the Phone
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