best-practice form checking

[cruiserweight]

I've constructed this form so that if Javascript is disaabled it will
show a typical <input type="submit"> button, BUT using the <noscript>
tag. Why is this a problem and what's a viable solution? i'm not sure
of the best way to do this so help is very much appreciated; snide,
smartass, unhelpful comments are useless. Please keep them to
yourself.

[Steve Pugh]

ba*****@yahoo.c om (cruiserweight) wrote:

Point well-taken. Apologies all around. The form is at
http://www.veiyotonle.com/printablem...enu=printables. I put a
regular submit button inside noscript tags, and then used javascript
to writeln the code for the javascript button. fields are checked in
javascript (if enabled) and on the server. I've read in these groups
recently, i forget where, that this is not a very good way to do
things.
I gave one possible reason in my earlier post. Another is that your
way uses more code than the alternative.
I was to find a better way.

Change:
if ( good2go > 0) {
document.printf orm.submit();
return false;
}

to:
if ( good2go > 0) { return true; }

Change:
<form name="printform " method="post" action="print.h tml?menu=other" >
to:
<form name="printform " method="post" action="print.h tml?menu=other"
onclick="return validate();">

Change:
<noscript><p class="body"><i nput type="submit" value="Print Selected"
name="Print Selected" /></p></noscript>
<script type="text/javascript"><!--
document.writel n ("<div><a href=\"#\" onClick=\"retur n validate();\"
class=\"button\ ">Print Selected</a></div>");
// --></script>

to:
<p class="body"><i nput type="submit" value="Print Selected"
name="Print Selected" /></p>

Steve

--
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I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor

Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net > <http://steve.pugh.net/>

[cruiserweight]

Brian <us*****@juliet remblay.com.inv alid> wrote in message news:<40******@ news-1.oit.umass.edu >...

cruiserweight wrote:

I've constructed this form so that if Javascript is disaabled it
will show a typical <input type="submit"> button, BUT using the
<noscript> tag. Why is this a problem and what's a viable solution?

The question is why you've done this. Why is a submit button only
available in no-js situations?

snide, smartass, unhelpful comments are useless. Please keep them
to yourself.

Best not to cop an attitude, especially before you've gotten any help.

absolutely right.

[cruiserweight]

Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net > wrote in message news:<u2******* *************** **********@4ax. com>...

ba*****@yahoo.c om (cruiserweight) wrote:

I've constructed this form so that if Javascript is disaabled it will
show a typical <input type="submit"> button, BUT using the <noscript>
tag.

What happens for users who do have JavaScript enabled? Do they get a
submit button at all?

In what way does it benefit some users _not_ to have an instantly
recognisable submit button?

I believe this is the correct question. It benefits no one for 'some
users _not_ to have an instantly recognisable submit button'.

However, I'd really like to get away from, or at least explore,
options to the standard UI available through html. Overindulgent?
Perhaps a little. In this case, though, I will rework it to use the
onsubmit event handler as suggested and go with the admittedly
unnecessary javascript button.