I have a document with a set of internal links such as:
<a name="Z1"></a>...
<a name="Z2"></a>...
The W3C validator objects to the first instance of the name attribute:
There is no attribute "FOO" for this element (in this HTML
version). The element is defined not to have this attribute.
These anchors are not contained in anything. For example, the Z1
anchor context is actually:
...
</ul>
<hr />
<a name="Z1"></a>
<h2>Title</h2>
<dl>
...
The error is triggered only by the first instance of the name
attribute, and so not by anchors Z2, Z3, ...
My doctype is xhtml11, and my browser is galeon. In my stylesheet,
the a element is defined only with regard to its pseudo-elements.
If I change the first statement to:
<a id="Z1"></a>...
Then the error is triggered by the Z2 anchor, etc.
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On Wed, Sep 10, Jim Ley inscribed on the eternal scroll: I'd say if an author was so misguided as to give IE a XHTML doctype
when it's an HTML user agent, then the user is almost certainly
wanting quirks mode, since they're almost certainly not using XHTML
for appropriate reasons.
I suppose statistically you might very well be right: the proportion
of us who have been trying to use HTML in accordance with published
specifications has been relatively small. But just wait: the
supporters of Sturgeons Law are already propagating their quasi-XHTML
tag soup - soon there will be no hiding from it there either.
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:02:12 GMT, Haines Brown
<br****@hartfor d-hwp.com> wrote: Then Jim L. appears to suggest thay by identifying a doctype as XHTML,
the IE "HTML user agent" will naturally be quirky. Does this mean
simply that IE does not handle XHTML docs reliably?
IE makes no claims to support XHTML, it renders XHTML as if it was
HTML tag-soup, you're getting lucky with its tag-soup parser. In fact
all the major browsers when they get XHTML served as text/html are
treating it as tag-soup, so you're just getting lucky.
1. XHTML is a threat to reliable browser performance, and so one
should use HTML unless there's good reason not to.
Yes, if the XHTML is served as text/html, not if XHTML is served as
application/xhtml+xml
2. If one uses XHTML, the char set specification should appear only in
the content-type meta statement and not in the document preface
(material before the <head> container). To have it in both places
might cause IE misbehavior.
No, it should only appear in the mime-type text/html; charset=x-foo
3. IE unreliability is likely to increase because MS is unable or
unwilling to improve it in order to display XML documents reliably.
IE is not an XHTML user agent, IE has no reason to become an XHTML
user agent until people start serving XHTML documents, if you tell it
you've got an HTML doc, and then give it some tag-soup, don't be
surprised that it doesn't do exactly what you expect.
text/html is not an XML mime-type, so it should not be doing XML
things with it - serve it as application/xml and IE will do an
appropriate thing with your document.
Jim.
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On Wed, Sep 10, Jim Ley inscribed on the eternal scroll: On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:02:12 GMT, Haines Brown
<br****@hartfor d-hwp.com> wrote:
2. If one uses XHTML, the char set specification should appear only in
the content-type meta statement and not in the document preface
(material before the <head> container). To have it in both places
might cause IE misbehavior.
No, it should only appear in the mime-type text/html; charset=x-foo
The questioner might need to be told explicitly that this is part
of the HTTP transaction response header, per RFC2616, and has nothing
at all to do with the HTML <head> container which, as far as HTTP is
concerned, is part of the "response body".
See e.g
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/....html#sec14.17
IE is not an XHTML user agent, IE has no reason to become an XHTML
user agent until people start serving XHTML documents, if you tell it
you've got an HTML doc, and then give it some tag-soup, don't be
surprised that it doesn't do exactly what you expect.
I've learned not to expect it to conform with published interworking
requirements either, so if I ever send it properly-conforming HTML and
it does the right thing then it's a pleasant surprise...
But I agree with your bottom-line conclusion: sending out conforming
HTML currently offers the best chance of success, and as the only
other "compatible-in-practical-terms" option on offer is Appendix C
XHTML/1.0, which is functionally identical to HTML/4.01 just with
XML-ised syntax, then HTML/4.01 seems the practical choice for
real-world deployment. By all means choose (or migrate towards) the
"Strict" variant, using CSS to propose the presentation - this is a
good move irrespective of the choice between HTML and XHTML.
And what you do on the lab bench is something else entirely, but
probably not ready for real-world deployment except with a known
specialist audience who has a specific need for the features (be they
MathML, SVG or whatever) and resulting willingness to acquire whatever
it takes to view them.
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