Hi,
I've not had many problems with differences between the IE and Firefox
interpretation of the box-model before, but my current site seems to
have the symptoms of being affected by it! http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/index_ff.html
Although I understand how it comes about, I don't fully understand a
couple of the hacks I've read to counter it. I've also read that the
problem was fixed from IE6.0 (although dependent on the Doctype [1]),
but changing the Doctype doesn't seem to make any difference on this
site in IE7.
If anyone can offer any clues in how to fix the problem, I'd be most
grateful.
Thanks,
Chris
1. http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamat...t-boxmodel.htm 20  1974 
ChrisW wrote:
>
I've not had many problems with differences between the IE and Firefox
interpretation of the box-model before, but my current site seems to
have the symptoms of being affected by it!
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/index_ff.html
What problem do you think you have?
I see no significant difference between IE6, IE7 and Firefox/Seamonkey.
What I *do* see in all browsers is a huge amount of horizontal
scrolling, with nothing but empty space over on the right. This is
caused by the width:100% on div.hideInfo. You should dump that.
The heading may not be positioned correctly, either, though that could
be because the design does not adapt to my large default text size.
Can't say for sure because I don't know how you expect it to look.
--
Berg
On 9 Nov, 21:56, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
ChrisW wrote:
I've not had many problems with differences between the IE and Firefox
interpretation of the box-model before, but my current site seems to
have the symptoms of being affected by it!
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/index_ff.html
What problem do you think you have?
I see no significant difference between IE6, IE7 and Firefox/Seamonkey.
What I *do* see in all browsers is a huge amount of horizontal
scrolling, with nothing but empty space over on the right. This is
caused by the width:100% on div.hideInfo. You should dump that.
The heading may not be positioned correctly, either, though that could
be because the design does not adapt to my large default text size.
Can't say for sure because I don't know how you expect it to look.
--
Berg
I knew about the scrolling - I wanted to fix the main problem first!
It's interesting they all look the same to you! I've got screenshots
for Firefox 3 and IE 7: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/ff.jpg http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/ie.jpg
Thanks,
Chris
In article
<92************ *************** *******@u18g200 0pro.googlegrou ps.com>,
ChrisW <c.******@gmail .comwrote:
On 9 Nov, 21:56, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
ChrisW wrote:
I've not had many problems with differences between the IE and Firefox
interpretation of the box-model before, but my current site seems to
have the symptoms of being affected by it!
>http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/index_ff.html
What problem do you think you have?
I see no significant difference between IE6, IE7 and Firefox/Seamonkey.
What I *do* see in all browsers is a huge amount of horizontal
scrolling, with nothing but empty space over on the right. This is
caused by the width:100% on div.hideInfo. You should dump that.
The heading may not be positioned correctly, either, though that could
be because the design does not adapt to my large default text size.
Can't say for sure because I don't know how you expect it to look.
--
Berg
I knew about the scrolling - I wanted to fix the main problem first!
It's interesting they all look the same to you! I've got screenshots
for Firefox 3 and IE 7:
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/ff.jpg
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/ie.jpg
Bergamot seems to me to be essentially right. In FF, if you enlarge the
text size in your browser (Command +, on a Mac, probably Control + on
Windows), you will see a gap like in ie.jpg.
--
dorayme
On 10 Nov, 00:11, dorayme <doraymeRidT... @optusnet.com.a uwrote:
In article
<9256a701-bbe0-4863-83a2-1a8c48fa0...@u1 8g2000pro.googl egroups.com>,
*ChrisW <c.c.w...@gmail .comwrote:
On 9 Nov, 21:56, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
ChrisW wrote:
I've not had many problems with differences between the IE and Firefox
interpretation of the box-model before, but my current site seems to
have the symptoms of being affected by it!
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/index_ff.html
What problem do you think you have?
I see no significant difference between IE6, IE7 and Firefox/Seamonkey.
What I *do* see in all browsers is a huge amount of horizontal
scrolling, with nothing but empty space over on the right. This is
caused by the width:100% on div.hideInfo. You should dump that.
The heading may not be positioned correctly, either, though that could
be because the design does not adapt to my large default text size.
Can't say for sure because I don't know how you expect it to look.
--
Berg
I knew about the scrolling - I wanted to fix the main problem first!
It's interesting they all look the same to you! I've got screenshots
for Firefox 3 and IE 7:
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/ff.jpg
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/ie.jpg
Bergamot seems to me to be essentially right. In FF, if you enlarge the
text size in your browser (Command +, on a *Mac, probably Control + on
Windows), you will see a gap like in ie.jpg.
--
dorayme
If I enlarge the text, I get http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/ff_large.jpg
- however large I make the text, I don't get any overlap of the
basicInfoDiv with the h1, like I do in IE.
In article
<f3************ *************** *******@o4g2000 pra.googlegroup s.com>,
ChrisW <c.******@gmail .comwrote:
On 10 Nov, 00:11, dorayme wrote:
*ChrisW <c.c.w...@gmail .comwrote:
On 9 Nov, 21:56, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
ChrisW wrote:
I've not had many problems with differences between the IE and Firefox
interpretation of the box-model before, but my current site seems to
have the symptoms of being affected by it!
>http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/index_ff.html
....
Bergamot seems to me to be essentially right. In FF, if you enlarge the
text size in your browser (Command +, on a *Mac, probably Control + on
Windows), you will see a gap like in ie.jpg.
>
If I enlarge the text, I get
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/ff_large.jpg
- however large I make the text, I don't get any overlap of the
basicInfoDiv with the h1, like I do in IE.
Anyway, perhaps start over with simple HTML:
<h1>Home Page / welcome</h1>
<div>
<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.</p>
<p>Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris
nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in
reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla
pariatur.</p>
<p>Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui
officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.</p>
</div>
ie. removing your <br>s and all the javascript, and complicated CSS
(positioning). And build from here, validating all the way as a check
for yourself.
--
dorayme
On 10 Nov, 21:29, dorayme <doraymeRidT... @optusnet.com.a uwrote:
In article
<f30ae5b4-db11-4e4f-9e24-62d7b46c1...@o4 g2000pra.google groups.com>,
*ChrisW <c.c.w...@gmail .comwrote:
On 10 Nov, 00:11, dorayme wrote:
*ChrisW <c.c.w...@gmail .comwrote:
On 9 Nov, 21:56, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
ChrisW wrote:
I've not had many problems with differences between the IE and Firefox
interpretation of the box-model before, but my current site seems to
have the symptoms of being affected by it!
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/index_ff.html
...
Bergamot seems to me to be essentially right. In FF, if you enlarge the
text size in your browser (Command +, on a *Mac, probably Control +on
Windows), you will see a gap like in ie.jpg.
If I enlarge the text, I get
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ccw34/ff_large.jpg
*- however large I make the text, I don't get any overlap of the
basicInfoDiv with the h1, like I do in IE.
Anyway, perhaps start over with simple HTML:
<h1>Home Page / welcome</h1>
<div>
<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.</p>
<p>Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris
nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in
reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla
pariatur.</p>
<p>Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui
officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.</p>
</div>
ie. removing your <br>s and all the javascript, and complicated CSS
(positioning). And build from here, validating all the way as a check
for yourself.
--
dorayme
That's where I started from (and where I start all my websites from,
ever since I taught myself xHTML and CSS (+ PHP / MySQL / XML...)
about 6 years ago). I've never had to build this precise kind of
layout tho, and was hoping someone might just have a quick tip on
something that I hadn't thought of about things I could change in the
CSS. I'm not looking for someone to give me the complete answer, but
I might have been a bit narrow minded and not realised of another way
of doing something.
In article
<73************ *************** *******@1g2000p rd.googlegroups .com>,
ChrisW <c.******@gmail .comwrote:
On 10 Nov, 21:29, dorayme <doraymeRidT... @optusnet.com.a uwrote:
Anyway, perhaps start over with simple HTML:
....
ie. removing your <br>s and all the javascript, and complicated CSS
(positioning). And build from here, validating all the way as a check
for yourself.
>
That's where I started from (and where I start all my websites from,
ever since I taught myself xHTML and CSS (+ PHP / MySQL / XML...)
about 6 years ago). I've never had to build this precise kind of
layout tho, and was hoping someone might just have a quick tip on
something that I hadn't thought of about things I could change in the
CSS. I'm not looking for someone to give me the complete answer, but
I might have been a bit narrow minded and not realised of another way
of doing something.
OK, things start simple and later get complicated and problems come up.
But the point I had in mind is that you must be especially careful along
the way from making poor decisions as you build. Why would you insert
double breaks, to take a trivial case that likely has nothing to do with
your immediate concern, in a paragraph instead of simply making more
paragraphs? I was puzzled by why you felt you had to wrap the HI in a
div?
The real point is that if you start and proceed in the *simplest* way,
your immediate concern would be unlikely to arise at all.
--
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