External CSS and HTML 2.0 - Page 2

Guy Macon

I have been running tests on various doctypes and
found something interesting.

I set up a test page using this doctype...

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0 Strict Level 1//EN">

....and put this in the head:

<link rel="stylesheet " type="text/css" href="http://www.example.com/test.css">

The page failed the W3C validator. Changing the above to...

<link rel="stylesheet " href="http://www.example.com/test.css">

....allowed the page to validate.

I already tell the browser what type of document test.css
is in my .htaccess file:

AddType 'text/css; charset=US-ASCII' .css
AddCharset US-ASCII .css
AddLanguage en-US .css

I repeated the test with HTML 4.01 strict and XHTML 1.1
pages (making the other changes needed) and it still validated.

Other than the usual Internet Explorer choking on XHTML 1.1
served as application/xhtml+xml, the HTML 2.0, HTML 4.01 strict
and the XHTML 1.1 test pages are all following the directives
in the CSS file just fine. The only quirk I found was that the
W3C CSS Validator couldn't find the CSS from the HTML/XHTML
file (but it validated when I pointed it at the CSS file).

Is there any good reason why that type="text/css" is found
in every example of using an extenal CSS that I can find?

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Jul 25 '08

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Ed Jay

The Troll Whisperer <Troll,Wh****** *@TrollTech.inv alidwrote:

>
"Jukka K. Korpela" <jk******@cs.tu t.fiwrote:

>>You were already warned about irritating sigs, and you are just making
them worse. This seems to be consistent with the lack of relevant
content and the presence of chaotic structure in your messages proper.

Thank you for making it clear that your future postings should be
ignored. Please keep using the same forged From field until you have a
clue. Thank you in advance.

That time of month, is it?

Here's a dime, Jukka; go buy yourself a *real* newsreader. One that can be
configured to not display sigs that are proberly delimited with the pattern
"-- " on a line by itself.

>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express

What an idiot you are. Using the worst possible news reader and then flaming
others because it cannot trim sigs. Moron.

I guess I must be the idiot...my newsreader, Agent, displays sigs after '--
' unless, like all newsreaders, I'm responding to the message with the sig.
Wait...that's what it's supposed to do. It's not supposed to tamper with or
edit the incoming message. Oops! I called the wrong guy an idiot. ;-)

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Jul 25 '08 #11

Guy Macon

The Troll Whisperer wrote:

>Here's a dime, Jukka; go buy yourself a *real* newsreader. One that can be
configured to not display sigs that are proberly delimited with the pattern
"-- " on a line by itself.

>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express

What an idiot you are. Using the worst possible news reader and then flaming
others because it cannot trim sigs. Moron.

To be fair, I did fail to have the proper "-- " delimiter on at least
one post -- a typo when I cut and pasted. Sorry about that.

I do agree, however, that those who object strongly to certain sigs
(and who lack the sense of humor to recognize the difference between
a regular sig and a one-time intentonal flouting of the rules in an
attempt at lighthearted humor) would be well-advised to drop Microsoft
Outlook Express and get a newsreader that has the option to not
display sigs.

--

Note to the humor impaired; Long sig used as a joke during
a discussion of long sigs. Normal sig will terurn soon.
ASCII-art stereograms:

Here are two ASCII stereograms. View with a monospace font.
To see the 3d effect, you need to focus your eyes such that
the two adjacent "X" characters at the top look like three.
Once you've done that, wait a few moments for your eyes to
get used to it, then slowly look down at the rest of the image.
Sometimes it helps to print out the pattern and look at that.

X X
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t
t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t
p p p p p p p p p p p p p p t t
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/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w
w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w
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g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g g
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m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m
a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a
c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n
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c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / /

Jul 26 '08 #12

Ed Mullen

Guy Macon wrote:

What in God's name prompted you to post /that/ sig? I don't care if my
news reader stripped it out in my reply, it was still there in your
post! Yuck! And pointless eye abuse. Don't care about bandwidth but
some surely do. Are you just trying to be annoying? It doesn't matter
what you said *above* the sig, the sig makes you look ignorant, or at
least attempting to be provocative for no purpose. I used to actually
read your posts. Now I'm just skimming over and past them. Re-think
your strategy, Guy.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
Why do you need a driver's license to buy alcohol when you can't drink
and drive?

Jul 27 '08 #13

Guy Macon

Ed Mullen wrote:

>What in God's name prompted you to post /that/ sig? I don't care if my
news reader stripped it out in my reply, it was still there in your
post! Yuck! And pointless eye abuse.

A good newsreader will give you the option of stripping out .sigs
before displaying posts to the reader. This is an especially
valuable option for those who are easily annoyed by .sigs.

>Don't care about bandwidth but
some surely do. Are you just trying to be annoying? It doesn't matter
what you said *above* the sig, the sig makes you look ignorant, or at
least attempting to be provocative for no purpose. I used to actually
read your posts. Now I'm just skimming over and past them. Re-think
your strategy, Guy.

It was a one-time attempt at humor. Sorry that you didn't find it funny.

If you decide to ignore the content of my posts because one joke fell
flat for you, all I can say is that, in my opinion, you will be missing
a lot of useful information that has sigs that stay under the recognized
4-line 79 character limit. It's your choice, though.

--
Guy Macon
<http://www.GuyMacon.co m/>

Jul 27 '08 #14

Gus Richter

Guy Macon wrote:

>
A good newsreader will give you the option of stripping out .sigs
before displaying posts to the reader. This is an especially
valuable option for those who are easily annoyed by .sigs.

You've got it wrong there. The sig is only stripped out when replying.

If it worked as you suggest, there would be no point in including a sig
since nobody would see it and there would be no need to strip it when
replying since it had already been stripped on receiving.

--
Gus

Jul 27 '08 #15

Travis Newbury

On Jul 27, 2:00*am, Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.co m/wrote:

It was a one-time attempt at humor. *Sorry that you didn't find it funny.

ok kiss make up whatever. Hey what ever happened to that kook with the
really really really long signature. He use to argue with everyone.
He did a care-bear's site.

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Jul 27 '08 #16

Travis Newbury

On Jul 27, 4:05*am, Gus Richter <gusrich...@net scape.netwrote:

If it worked as you suggest, there would be no point in including a sig
since nobody would see it and there would be no need to strip it when
replying since it had already been stripped on receiving.

That's a mighty big assumption that everyone would stip them out.

--
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Travis Newbury <http://travisnewbury.b logspot.com/Flash Crap

Jul 27 '08 #17

Gus Richter

Travis Newbury wrote:

On Jul 27, 4:05 am, Gus Richter <gusrich...@net scape.netwrote:
>If it worked as you suggest, there would be no point in including a sig
since nobody would see it and there would be no need to strip it when
replying since it had already been stripped on receiving.

That's a mighty big assumption that everyone would stip them out.

I take it that English is not your first language, or you are lacking in
reading skills. Guy said that a "good newsreader will strip the sig
before displaying". I don't say it, nor assume it to be so. In fact, my
post disputes this. Guy did not say "everyone", he said "a good one".

--
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Travis Newbury <http://travisnewbury.b logspot.com/Flash Crap
Travis Newbury <http://travisnewbury.b logspot.com/Flash Crap
Travis Newbury <http://travisnewbury.b logspot.com/Flash Crap

Do you stutter or are you otherwise challenged? Do you really think that
by irritating people by repeating your "crap" four times will attract
people? I may have otherwise gone to have a look.

I conclude that you are challenged since you do not properly use the (--
) but choose to irritate readers in this way as well.

--
Gus

Jul 27 '08 #18

Travis Newbury

On Jul 27, 9:43*am, Gus Richter <gusrich...@net scape.netwrote:

Do you stutter or are you otherwise challenged? Do you really think that
by irritating people by repeating your "crap" four times will attract
people? I may have otherwise gone to have a look.

Visit, don't visit. What ever you do is pretty much irrelevant to
me.

--
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Jul 27 '08 #19

Chris F.A. Johnson

On 2008-07-27, Gus Richter wrote:

Guy Macon wrote:
>>
A good newsreader will give you the option of stripping out .sigs
before displaying posts to the reader. This is an especially
valuable option for those who are easily annoyed by .sigs.

You've got it wrong there. The sig is only stripped out when replying.

A good newsreader has the option to show or not show sigs when
displaying posts.

If it worked as you suggest, there would be no point in including a sig
since nobody would see it and there would be no need to strip it when
replying since it had already been stripped on receiving.

--
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Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)

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