Hello,
I've created a table with two columns, the second column is fixed width at
64px and contains a div, the div has a border and contains some text, the
text renders to larger than 64px. This is a cut down version of a more
complex page to illustrate the problem so just changing it to divs or some
such wont help.
In IE6 and FF2 the div border automatically stretches to contain the text,
in IE7 the div is set to 64px and stays there, I don't think this is the
correct behaviour, but I can't seem to find another mention of this problem,
could anyone give me some pointers?
tia,
Dave
Jun 27 '08
15  2585 
CSS 2.1 17.5.2.2 is the relevant section of the spec. Although the
automatic table layout algorithm is not "normative" , I can't see any
logical reason for IE7 to be giving you the behaviour you report. Report
it to Microsoft as a bug.
Thanks Ben, not the answer I was hoping for though :-). I've been playing
some more and if I change the doctype to
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
then it works, over here http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/ it describes the
doctypes and this shouldn't make a difference, or is this another quirks
mode?
cheers,
Dave
Scripsit Davo:
>Specifically , in "quirks mode", a block with declared width may
expand when overflow occurs. By the specifications, it does not. (By
default, the textual or other content just overflows, outside the
block's box and any eventual border.)
We're not in quirks mode.
You're still not posting properly (lack of attribution), though perhaps
getting better.
You're still in a wrong group.
The div block should inherit the container
box size is my understanding,
You understanding of _inheritance_ is then flawed. That's not uncommon
of course; only perhaps 1 author out of 100 understands the concept
correctly. But we're in a wrong group, and you need to read a good CSS
tutorial before you can start understanding explanations.
In both FF2 and
IE6 the div inherited the container (td) width when the contained
text expands the block (which is how it should work), in IE7 the
behaviour seems to have changed.
This does not happen in quirks mode in IE 7, so they probably regard
this as a fix. You're probably right in assuming that this is wrong, but
your initial explanations were fairly misleading (like speaking about
"fixed width" cell and referring to borders, as if the borders and not
the block size were the issue - and not posting a URL initially).
In fact, the IE 7 bug may well result from a misunderstandin g of
inheritance...
Besides, that's a CSS issue. This is an HTML group.
Perhaps *you* should think a little before shooting off your mouth
;-), if you have something to contribute then thanks, otherwise
perhaps stick to areas you know.
Would really consider honoring a person who makes such a personal
accusation or at least nasty remarks against a named person in public,
himself hiding behind a nickname like a coward?
--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca") http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
nope, my mistake it is in quirks mode now.
On 2008-04-29, Davo <wa******@hotma il.comwrote:
>
>CSS 2.1 17.5.2.2 is the relevant section of the spec. Although the
automatic table layout algorithm is not "normative" , I can't see any
logical reason for IE7 to be giving you the behaviour you report. Report
it to Microsoft as a bug.
Thanks Ben, not the answer I was hoping for though :-). I've been playing
some more and if I change the doctype to
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
then it works, over here http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/ it describes the
doctypes and this shouldn't make a difference, or is this another quirks
mode?
I don't know what you've run into here. Perhaps this is a quirk after
all, but it sounds from the description more like a new bug in IE7.
But I may easily be confused about exactly what you're seeing here.
I don't know what you've run into here. Perhaps this is a quirk after
all, but it sounds from the description more like a new bug in IE7.
I'll report it to Microsoft and see what happens, if I get a result I'll
report it here, in the mean time I'll fiddle a bit more. Thanks for your
help, if you like send me your email address (my email's in the from field)
and I'll keep you posted.
cheers,
Dave
Sub titulo "Re: DIV borders different in IE7 when in td"
scripsit Ben C:
Table cells should never go narrower than the minimum width required
by their contents. Normal flow block boxes (like default DIV) get the
width you set, overflowing if necessary.
This seems to be the heart of the matter, and I'm trying to get a real
discussion started, by moving the discussion to the right group
(c.i.w.a.styles heets) and changing the Subject line.
It seems to me that IE 7, specifically in "standards mode" (!),
misbehaves when a table cell has a declared width but the actual width
is larger, due to the requirements of its content. When the <tdelement
contains a <divelement, IE 7 expands the <tdbut not the <divinside
it. This can be seen from the background or border of the <div>, if set,
and even the formatting of its textual content.
However, width calculation is mystic area in CSS, so it might be
possible that under some weird interpretation, IE 7 is "right", though I
cannot see how.
Demo: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www/width-bug.html
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