printing - can i suggest a paper size/layout?

[matt]

hello,

im guessing the answer is "no", but can a webpage set the printer's
paper size & layout? trying to spare my intranet users some extra
steps.
thanks,
matt

[dorayme]

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ma**@mailinator .com wrote:

hello,

im guessing the answer is "no", but can a webpage set the printer's
paper size & layout? trying to spare my intranet users some extra
steps.

It can hardly set the paper size. That would be too creepy even
if it could be made to work. Imagine the printer opening, the
tray coming out, the A4 in it thrown on the floor, the US Letter
pack being ripped open and 100 sheets drifting through the air
into the tray....

But css can certainly set the layout.... that is what css is
for...

--
dorayme

[rf]

dorayme wrote:

In article
<11************ *********@p79g2 000cwp.googlegr oups.com>,
ma**@mailinator .com wrote:

>im guessing the answer is "no", but can a webpage set the printer's
paper size & layout? trying to spare my intranet users some extra
steps.

But css can certainly set the layout.... that is what css is
for...

Methinks matt is talking about landscape/portrait in which case the answer
is no, this is a user setting.

--
Richard.

[Darin McGrew]

ma**@mailinator .com wrote:

>>im guessing the answer is "no", but can a webpage set the printer's
paper size & layout? trying to spare my intranet users some extra
steps.

dorayme wrote:

>But css can certainly set the layout.... that is what css is
for...

rf <[e-mail] wrote:

Methinks matt is talking about landscape/portrait in which case the answer
is no, this is a user setting.

Well, CSS 2.0 did allow "size: landscape", "size: portrait", and even
"size: 8.5in 11in", although CSS 2.1 dropped it. See:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/page.html#page-size-prop

CSS 3 may reintroduce and extend the size property:
http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-page/#page-size

Browser support? Well, that's another issue...
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Web Design Group, da***@htmlhelp. com, http://www.HTMLHelp.com/

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[Andy Dingley]

ma**@mailinator .com wrote:

im guessing the answer is "no",

Actually it's yes, but for small values of yes.

CSS 3 does this, but no-one supports it yet. There's also at least one
useful ActiveX (MeadCo's ScriptX) that does it, for the ( Windows / IE
/ ActiveX permitted ) context.

[Travis Newbury]

rf wrote:

Methinks matt is talking about landscape/portrait in which case the answer
is no, this is a user setting.

Unless you are printing from flash, then you can set the printer
orentation. The user has the ability to change it, but you can set it
as the default for that print job.

[matt]

not following the dramatization -- our printers have multiple paper
trays of various sizes. it would be nice if i could prep the print
dialog w/ the desired size & direction (my use of the work "layout" was
perhaps not the most astute) of the paper.

matt

dorayme wrote:

It can hardly set the paper size. That would be too creepy even
if it could be made to work. Imagine the printer opening, the
tray coming out, the A4 in it thrown on the floor, the US Letter
pack being ripped open and 100 sheets drifting through the air
into the tray....

But css can certainly set the layout.... that is what css is
for...

[matt]

Darin McGrew wrote:

Well, CSS 2.0 did allow "size: landscape", "size: portrait", and even
"size: 8.5in 11in", although CSS 2.1 dropped it. See:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/page.html#page-size-prop

ah ha. interesting. that link shows this syntax:

@page {
size: landscape;
}

....however im not used to using "@" class definitions. is that valid
syntax in a .css, just like that?

perhaps i have CSS 2.1 -- in IE 6, even w/ the above page class
definition in my print media's .css, when i get to the OS' print dialog
its still uses my printer's default of portrait. im running on windows
2k pro.
thanks,
matt

>
CSS 3 may reintroduce and extend the size property:
http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-page/#page-size

Browser support? Well, that's another issue...
--
Darin McGrew, mc****@stanford alumni.org, http://www.rahul.net/mcgrew/
Web Design Group, da***@htmlhelp. com, http://www.HTMLHelp.com/

"Entering Yosemite National Park: laws of gravity strictly enforced"

[Harlan Messinger]

ma**@mailinator .com wrote:

Darin McGrew wrote:

>Well, CSS 2.0 did allow "size: landscape", "size: portrait", and even
"size: 8.5in 11in", although CSS 2.1 dropped it. See:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/page.html#page-size-prop

ah ha. interesting. that link shows this syntax:

@page {
size: landscape;
}

...however im not used to using "@" class definitions.

It's a CSS keyword, not a class.

is that valid
syntax in a .css, just like that?

It must be, since the place where you just read about it is the official
definition of valid CSS syntax.

>
perhaps i have CSS 2.1 -- in IE 6, even w/ the above page class
definition in my print media's .css, when i get to the OS' print dialog
its still uses my printer's default of portrait. im running on windows
2k pro.

Even if it was in 2.1, it's unlikely that IE would have implemented it.

[matt]

Harlan Messinger wrote:

It's a CSS keyword, not a class.

my terminology may not be exactly correct, but my point gets across. i
have far too many technologies & languages under my belt to worry about
appeasing random HTML slingers on usenet.

It must be, since the place where you just read about it is the official
definition of valid CSS syntax.

not necessarily, which is why i asked. ive read far too much
documentation and not known the assumed particulars in order to get
some things work. not talking css here, but programming syntax in
general.

but, let me ask -- whats the point of being a dick? if you dont want to
help me, then dont. let someone else...
matt