background color of a frame

[Veerle]

Suppose having a frameset consisting of two frames, both with dark
background colors. One of the frames is a sort of menu and the other
one contains the content. When someone clicks a menu item in the first
frame, another page is loaded in the second frame. I know it is not a
nice solution, but given this situation, is it possible to set the
background color of the second frame, so that in between loading the
pages with a dark background color, you don't get the white background,
until the page starts loading?

[David Dorward]

Veerle wrote:

Suppose having a frameset

Stop there. Frames are usually harmful, and solve problems usually better
solved with other technologies.

http://allmyfaqs.net/faq.pl?Problems_with_using_frames

(and switching away from frames should solve your problem)

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[Neredbojias]

To further the education of mankind, "Veerle" <ve*********@ho tmail.com>
vouchsafed:

Suppose having a frameset consisting of two frames, both with dark
background colors. One of the frames is a sort of menu and the other
one contains the content. When someone clicks a menu item in the first
frame, another page is loaded in the second frame. I know it is not a
nice solution, but given this situation, is it possible to set the
background color of the second frame, so that in between loading the
pages with a dark background color, you don't get the white background,
until the page starts loading?

In addition to what David said, it's not possible to get rid of that white
interchange background, anyway.

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Infinity has its limits.

[Veerle]

> To further the education of mankind, "Veerle" <veerleve...@ho tmail.com>

vouchsafed:

Suppose having a frameset consisting of two frames, both with dark
background colors. One of the frames is a sort of menu and the other
one contains the content. When someone clicks a menu item in the first
frame, another page is loaded in the second frame. I know it is not a
nice solution, but given this situation, is it possible to set the
background color of the second frame, so that in between loading the
pages with a dark background color, you don't get the white background,
until the page starts loading?

In addition to what David said, it's not possible to get rid of that white
interchange background, anyway.

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Neredbojias
Infinity has its limits.

Ok, I'll get rid of the frames. I did some research on the div-tag and
how to use with it (and css) to achive what I want. Actually there are
three solutions:

(1) I could have used a table construction for layout. Easy, but this
is a very dirty solution, so I didn't want to use it. W3C clearly says
it is not done (in its WAI guidelines).
(2) So, since the frameset exists and seems to be valid html (also by
W3C), I thought I'd use that. Don't know what WAI says about it, but
probably, they will not encourage it as well.
(3) I create a div element for each frame in my frameset and use CSS to
make every page and click behave like it did before with the frameset.
And it looks great.

I should probably be less lazy next time, because eventually, I had to
do everything twice...

[Neredbojias]

To further the education of mankind, "Veerle" <ve*********@ho tmail.com>
vouchsafed:

In addition to what David said, it's not possible to get rid of that
white interchange background, anyway.
Ok, I'll get rid of the frames. I did some research on the div-tag and
how to use with it (and css) to achive what I want. Actually there are
three solutions:

(1) I could have used a table construction for layout. Easy, but this
is a very dirty solution, so I didn't want to use it. W3C clearly says
it is not done (in its WAI guidelines).
(2) So, since the frameset exists and seems to be valid html (also by
W3C), I thought I'd use that. Don't know what WAI says about it, but
probably, they will not encourage it as well.
(3) I create a div element for each frame in my frameset and use CSS
to make every page and click behave like it did before with the
frameset. And it looks great.

3 seems to be the best choice.
I should probably be less lazy next time, because eventually, I had to
do everything twice...

Hehe, I think my pages are pretty good, but how many times do you think I
did (/do) them? Nobody knows 'it' well in the beginning.

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Neredbojias
Infinity has its limits.

[Veerle]

> Hehe, I think my pages are pretty good, but how many times do you think I

did (/do) them?

I would like to see them. Can you give me your url?

[Veerle]

> (3) I create a div element for each frame in my frameset and use CSS to

make every page and click behave like it did before with the frameset.
And it looks great.

I created 2 div-blocks, gave them a width (35% and 65%) and set them to
float left. Looks great, but I still want it different. I want my div
blocks next to each other, but the first one to have a fixed width
(270px) and the second one to use all the remaing space. Seems like a
very common thing to do, but I can't get it right...

I tried doing it like below, but both internet explorer en firefox take
the 100% width litteraly and make the "content" block the same width as
the browser, and move it to the next line to be able to do that. What
do I have to set for width for the "content" block so that it uses all
the remaing space on the right?

html:
<body>
<div id="menu">menu </div>
<div id="content">co ntent</div>
</body>

css:
html {
height: 100%;
}
body {
height: 100%;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
}
#menu {
background-color: #FF0000;
width: 270px;
height: 100%;
float: left;
}
#content {
background-color: #00FF00;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
float: left;
}

[Neredbojias]

To further the education of mankind, "Veerle" <ve*********@ho tmail.com>
vouchsafed:

(3) I create a div element for each frame in my frameset and use CSS
to make every page and click behave like it did before with the
frameset. And it looks great.
I created 2 div-blocks, gave them a width (35% and 65%) and set them
to float left. Looks great, but I still want it different. I want my
div blocks next to each other, but the first one to have a fixed width
(270px) and the second one to use all the remaing space. Seems like a
very common thing to do, but I can't get it right...

I tried doing it like below, but both internet explorer en firefox
take the 100% width litteraly and make the "content" block the same
width as the browser, and move it to the next line to be able to do
that. What do I have to set for width for the "content" block so that
it uses all the remaing space on the right?

You should probably search the "Googlives" for 2-column layout. One
prob with this example is that 100% + 270px != 100%. Leaving the 100%
off is a step in the right direction, but I'm prett' sure more is
needed.

html:
<body>
<div id="menu">menu </div>
<div id="content">co ntent</div>
</body>

css:
html {
height: 100%;
}
body {
height: 100%;
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
}
#menu {
background-color: #FF0000;
width: 270px;
height: 100%;
float: left;
}
#content {
background-color: #00FF00;
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
float: left;
}

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Neredbojias
Infinity has its limits.

[Neredbojias]

To further the education of mankind, "Veerle" <ve*********@ho tmail.com>
vouchsafed:

Hehe, I think my pages are pretty good, but how many times do you
think I did (/do) them?

I would like to see them. Can you give me your url?

Mais oui! :)

One good example is:

http://www.neredbojias.com/beta/mars.html#p1

I don't use a lot of columns on my site, but the index page (source) can be
informative:

http://www.neredbojias.com/

If you browse around, you'll find little bits of "esoteria" here and there,
too.

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Neredbojias
Infinity has its limits.