adding white space in <p>

[Xah Lee]

sometimes i wish to add white space in <p> as to achived effects
similar to tab.

what should i do?

using empty image seems the sure way but rather complicated. (and
dosen't change size with font) Woudl some of the space character in
unicode work? (my html files uses unicode)

Xah
xa*@xahlee.org
∑ http://xahlee.org/

[Benjamin Niemann]

Xah Lee wrote:

sometimes i wish to add white space in <p> as to achived effects
similar to tab.

what should i do?

using empty image seems the sure way but rather complicated. (and
dosen't change size with font) Woudl some of the space character in
unicode work? (my html files uses unicode)

How about &nbsp; (codepoint 160).

'tab' is often used as a 'poor mans table' in wordprocessing software - if
you have tabular data, use the table element.

An URL that shows what you are trying to achive would help both of us.

--
Benjamin Niemann
Email: pink at odahoda dot de
WWW: http://www.odahoda.de/

[Xah Lee]

ah, &nbsp; is it! I always thought it just prevent linebreak...

btw, is there a unicode equivalent?

Xah
xa*@xahlee.org
∑ http://xahlee.org/
Benjamin Niemann wrote:

Xah Lee wrote:

sometimes i wish to add white space in <p> as to achived effects
similar to tab.

what should i do?

using empty image seems the sure way but rather complicated. (and
dosen't change size with font) Woudl some of the space character in
unicode work? (my html files uses unicode)

How about &nbsp; (codepoint 160).

'tab' is often used as a 'poor mans table' in wordprocessing software - if
you have tabular data, use the table element.

An URL that shows what you are trying to achive would help both of us.

--
Benjamin Niemann
Email: pink at odahoda dot de
WWW: http://www.odahoda.de/

[Xah Lee]

ah, Thanks!

a was asking unicode equivalent... as you said, it's code point 160, or
00A0.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ity_references

Xah
xa*@xahlee.org
∑ http://xahlee.org/
Benjamin Niemann wrote:

Xah Lee wrote:

sometimes i wish to add white space in <p> as to achived effects
similar to tab.

what should i do?

using empty image seems the sure way but rather complicated. (and
dosen't change size with font) Woudl some of the space character in
unicode work? (my html files uses unicode)

How about &nbsp; (codepoint 160).

'tab' is often used as a 'poor mans table' in wordprocessing software - if
you have tabular data, use the table element.

An URL that shows what you are trying to achive would help both of us.

--
Benjamin Niemann
Email: pink at odahoda dot de
WWW: http://www.odahoda.de/

[Leif K-Brooks]

Xah Lee wrote:

sometimes i wish to add white space in <p> as to achived effects
similar to tab.

p {
text-indent: 2em;
}

[boclair]

Xah Lee wrote:

sometimes i wish to add white space in <p> as to achived effects
similar to tab.

what should i do?

using empty image seems the sure way but rather complicated. (and
dosen't change size with font) Woudl some of the space character in
unicode work? (my html files uses unicode)

This is the province of css dealing as it does with presentation.

Can any of these css rules be adapted

<p><span style="padding-right:5em;">Thi s text is followed by a 5em
space.</span> <span style="word-spacing: 2em;" >This following text has
a 5em space between each word.</span></p>

<p style="text-indent: 2em;"><i>This text is indented 2em</i>.
fiuev8f9nngy98b we0ifmn09n ojc ecomoiejck moc98ef dskjdvn doijvc iojc9n
v9iuhjc mojm lwj lkjfsm lmoiu98m dlkvmf09j</p>

<p style="margin-left: 2em;"><i>This para appears indented 2em</i>.
fiuev8f9nngy98b we0ifmn09n ojc ecomoiejck moc98ef dskjdvn doijvc iojc9n
v9iuhjc mojm lwj lkjfsm lmoiu98m dlkvmf09j</p>

Louise

[Stan Brown]

In article <11************ **********@g44g 2000cwa.googleg roups.com>,
Xah Lee favored us with...

ah, &nbsp; is it! I always thought it just prevent linebreak...

btw, is there a unicode equivalent?

That _is_ Unicode; but if you're going to use more than one, use a
style instead.

--
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http://OakRoadSystems.com/
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validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
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[Jukka K. Korpela]

Xah Lee wrote:

ah, &nbsp; is it!
No it isn't. (P.S. The usual way on Usenet to tell that you failed to
understand a message in its entirety is to quote it in its entirety
after your own comments. This time, there wasn't much to be understood,
though, and although you understood the message correctly, the message
was wrong.)

If you check the HTML specification (as people should do at least before
offering advice on HTML in public), you will see that explicitly says
that the rendering effect of no-break space is undefined.

On the practical side, although most browsers render no-break space as
"noncollaps ible space" of some fixed font-dependent width, this gives
you horribly poor "control" over layout, as compared with the nice tools
of CSS. Besides, using &nbsp; (or the no-break space character itself)
unnecessarily obfuscates your HTML source. It's not meant to be part of
the content but just affect visual rendering.
I always thought it just prevent linebreak...

Keep thinking that way, for the most of it.

[Pierre Goiffon]

Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

If you check the HTML specification (as people should do at least before
offering advice on HTML in public), you will see that explicitly says
that the rendering effect of no-break space is undefined.
Do you have any URL ? I just checked the HTML 4.01 recommandation and
didn't find nothing :/
using &nbsp; (or the no-break space character itself)
unnecessarily obfuscates your HTML source. It's not meant to be part of
the content but just affect visual rendering.

But you must add a non breakable space before characters such as ":",
"(" or ";"... It's not just all about an entire phrase that you want to
stay on the same line.

[Jukka K. Korpela]

Pierre Goiffon wrote:

Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

If you check the HTML specification (as people should do at least
before offering advice on HTML in public), you will see that
explicitly says that the rendering effect of no-break space is undefined.
Do you have any URL ?

Of course.
I just checked the HTML 4.01 recommandation and
didn't find nothing :/

Well, if you did not find anything explicit about the rendering effect
being defined or undefined, then you should regard it as undefined,
right? So revealing the URL will just make this explicit:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/text.html#h-9.1

Oh well, I might quote the relevant bits:

"In HTML, only the following characters are defined as white space
characters:

ASCII space (&#x0020;)
ASCII tab (&#x0009;)
ASCII form feed (&#x000C;)
Zero-width space (&#x200B;)

Line breaks are also white space characters."

and somewhat later

"This specification does not indicate the behavior, rendering or
otherwise, of space characters other than those explicitly identified
here as white space characters. For this reason, authors should use
appropriate elements and styles to achieve visual formatting effects
that involve white space, rather than space characters."

(Taken literally, this also means that the effect of no-break space on
line breaking is undefined, too. But they hardly meant that.)

using &nbsp; (or the no-break space character itself)
unnecessarily obfuscates your HTML source. It's not meant to be part
of the content but just affect visual rendering.

But you must add a non breakable space before characters such as ":",
"(" or ";"... It's not just all about an entire phrase that you want to
stay on the same line.

I have no idea of what you are talking about here and how it relates to
the piece of my text you quoted, or to the original question (which was
fairly vague, since there are so many ways to add white space to a
paragraph).