This seems too simple by I can't find the answer.
Must <a name="foo"> be closed with </a> ?
Must it have content?
W3C says the content cannot be block so what if :
<a name="foo">
<h2>Foo Is Good</h2> ( a likely location )
Where does the closer </a> go?
<a name="foo">&nbs p;</a> is ok but uses a line
<h2>Foo Is Good</h2>
Mason C
Jul 24 '05
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:26:53 +1000, Mark Parnell
<we*******@clar kecomputers.com .au> wrote: Previously in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Mark Parnell
<we*******@cla rkecomputers.co m.au> said: Previously in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, "Mason A. Clark"
<ma************ *@ix.netcom.com > said:
Must it have content?
Yes, as above.
My bad. No, it doesn't have to have content.
But content is necessary for Opera to find it.
In Opera <a name="foo"></a> does not work.
In IE6 <a href="top"> goes to the top of the page even if there
is no <a name="top"> of any kind.
IE6 recognizes "top" . Other <a href="goo"> do NOT go to the top.
Is it just me? Or am I the only one testing?
Mason C
Mason A. Clark <ma************ *@ix.netcom.com > wrote: Must it have content?
Yes, as above.
My bad. No, it doesn't have to have content.
But content is necessary for Opera to find it.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/spartanicus/empty_link.htm
Works in Opera 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8.
--
Spartanicus
Mason A. Clark wrote: On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:26:53 +1000, Mark Parnell
<we*******@clar kecomputers.com .au> wrote:
Previously in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Mark Parnell
<we*******@cl arkecomputers.c om.au> said: Previously in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, "Mason A. Clark"
<ma************ *@ix.netcom.com > said:
Must it have content?
Yes, as above.
My bad. No, it doesn't have to have content.
But content is necessary for Opera to find it.
In Opera <a name="foo"></a> does not work.
Opera responds to id="foo".
<a name="foo" id="foo"></a> works for all browsers that I've ever
tried.
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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:30:50 +0200, Els <el*********@ti scali.nl> wrote: Mason A. Clark wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:26:53 +1000, Mark Parnell
<we*******@clar kecomputers.com .au> wrote:
Previously in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Mark Parnell
<we*******@c larkecomputers. com.au> said:
Previously in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, "Mason A. Clark"
<ma************ *@ix.netcom.com > said:
> Must it have content?
Yes, as above.
My bad. No, it doesn't have to have content.
But content is necessary for Opera to find it.
In Opera <a name="foo"></a> does not work.
Opera responds to id="foo".
<a name="foo" id="foo"></a> works for all browsers that I've ever
tried.
Try this validated page on the world's best browser, Opera: http://masonc.home.netcom.com/1template-1.html
Look for the "Return to the top" link at the bottom of the page.
Look for your <a name="top" id="top"></a> below <body>
Opera needs content in <a...></a> IE6 and Firefox do not.
Mason C (now I have to go stuff content in all my 47 pages)
Mason A. Clark wrote:
(now I have to go stuff content in all my 47 pages)
"find and replace" - shouldn't take you longer than 5 seconds.
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Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
- Renato Russo -
Now playing: Yes - Going For The One
Mason A. Clark wrote: But the W3C site says:
"However, browser support for ID link destinations is very poor, so A NAME will
be needed for quite awhile. "
Really? Where does the W3C say that?
"Mason A. Clark" wrote:
This seems too simple by I can't find the answer.
Must <a name="foo"> be closed with </a> ?
Must it have content?
W3C says the content cannot be block so what if :
<a name="foo">
<h2>Foo Is Good</h2> ( a likely location )
Where does the closer </a> go?
<a name="foo">&nbs p;</a> is ok but uses a line
<h2>Foo Is Good</h2>
Mason C
Any <a> tag requires a closing </a>. This is because the anchor
(element using the <a> tag) may indeed have content; thus, a
closing tag is required to end the content whether or not the
anchor has any actual content.
When I use the NAME attribute, I use a blank content:
<a name="foo"> </a>
I put this just before the section of the page to which I want it
to apply. Thus:
<a name="foo"> </a>
<h2>Foo Is Good</h2>
I do it this way because selecting the link
<a href="#foo">Go To Foo</a>
with some browsers positions the window with the anchor at the very
top of the page. With the anchor before the applicable section,
the section is then positioned slightly below the top of the page.
I use the NAME attribute for the anchor instead of ID because NAME
is specifically the attribute for "the destination of another link"
(HTML 4.01 specification). The ID attribute is more general and
thus less mnemonic. Since I manually edit my HTML, mnemonic
markups are very important to me if I am to modify a page I haven't
touched in over a year.
--
David E. Ross
<URL:http://www.rossde.com/>
I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See <URL:http://www.mozilla.org/>.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:49:20 +0200, Els <el*********@ti scali.nl> wrote: Mason A. Clark wrote:
(now I have to go stuff content in all my 47 pages)
"find and replace" - shouldn't take you longer than 5 seconds.
15 seconds actually, lock load and fire, for about 33 pages -- some long.
I use Search and Replace from http://www.funduc.com -- a superb program.
Note that "wild card" is needed to search/replace <a name=*></a> where
there may be other ></a> 's not <a name 's
Mason C
On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:51:35 -0700, David Ross <no****@nowhere .not> wrote: "Mason A. Clark" wrote:
This seems too simple by I can't find the answer.
Must <a name="foo"> be closed with </a> ?
Must it have content?
W3C says the content cannot be block so what if :
<a name="foo">
<h2>Foo Is Good</h2> ( a likely location )
Where does the closer </a> go?
<a name="foo">&nbs p;</a> is ok but uses a line
<h2>Foo Is Good</h2>
Mason C
Any <a> tag requires a closing </a>. This is because the anchor
(element using the <a> tag) may indeed have content; thus, a
closing tag is required to end the content whether or not the
anchor has any actual content.
When I use the NAME attribute, I use a blank content:
<a name="foo"> </a>
Opera does *not* recognize this. I tested it just now.
IE6 and Firefox do. Opera requires actual content which
a space is not.
Mason C
I put this just before the section of the page to which I want it
to apply. Thus:
<a name="foo"> </a>
<h2>Foo Is Good</h2>
I do it this way because selecting the link
<a href="#foo">Go To Foo</a>
with some browsers positions the window with the anchor at the very
top of the page. With the anchor before the applicable section,
the section is then positioned slightly below the top of the page.
I use the NAME attribute for the anchor instead of ID because NAME
is specifically the attribute for "the destination of another link"
(HTML 4.01 specification). The ID attribute is more general and
thus less mnemonic. Since I manually edit my HTML, mnemonic
markups are very important to me if I am to modify a page I haven't
touched in over a year.
I agree and I use "name". However, Opera, IE6, and Firefox do
recognize id *or* name. ( with content, e.g <a name="foo">&nbs p;</a> )
David Ross <no****@nowhere .not> wrote: When I use the NAME attribute, I use a blank content:
<a name="foo"> </a>
Mason A. Clark <ma*******@THIS ix.netcom.comQQ Q> wrote: Opera does *not* recognize this. I tested it just now.
After reading all this "discussion ", I had to try it myself. Here's the
test setup I used.
In foo.html:
<!-- Several screenfuls of Lorem Ipsum -->
<a name="foo"> </a>
<h2>foo</h2>
<p><a href="bar.html# bar">go to bar</a>
<p><a href="foo.html# baz">go to baz</a>
<!-- Several screenfuls of Lorem Ipsum -->
<a name="baz"> </a>
<h2>baz</h2>
<p><a href="#foo">go to foo</a>
<!-- Several screenfuls of Lorem Ipsum -->
In bar.html:
<!-- Several screenfuls of Lorem Ipsum -->
<a name="bar"> </a>
<h2>bar</h2>
<p><a href="foo.html# foo">go to foo</a>
<!-- Several screenfuls of Lorem Ipsum -->
Opera 8.01 on MS Windows worked just fine with all 3 types of links:
href="#tag", href="thisdoc#t ag", and href="otherdoc# tag", with local files
and with documents from an HTTP server, with no DOCTYPE and with HTML 4.01
Strict, with <a name=...></a> and with <a name=...> </a>.
In what situation did Opera not recognize this type of anchor? And what
version of Opera?
--
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Web Design Group, da***@htmlhelp. com, http://www.HTMLHelp.com/
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