Hi everyone,
Is the W3C HTML Validator [1] in error when it returns <br /> as valid
for HTML 4.01 Strict doctype?
In March 2004 [2], the Validator returned <br />, <hr /> and <img />
as invalid for HTML 4.01 Strict.
Liam Quinn said [2] "You can't mix HTML and XHTML. You need to choose
one or the other syntax."
[meaning: choose <br> for HTML and <br /> for XHTML]
As for today, the Validator returns <br /> and <img /> as valid for
HTML 4.01 Strict, but <hr /> (and also <meta /> and <link />)
as invalid.
It seems that the Validator has changed its behaviour since 2004.
[1] http://validator.w3.org/
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/...r/2003Mar/0028
Liam Quinn is a founding member of WDG (Wed Desing Group).
Thanks,
Thomas Jedenfelt
Tyresö (Stockholm), Sweden
Jul 24 '05
12  45335 
Nick Kew wrote: David Dorward wrote:
2. The author of that email was finding that <hr /> was invalid and
*assuming* that <img /> and <br /> were too.
I'd suspect option 2 myself.
I wouldn't.
I expect the reason for the difference was context.
Technically speaking, <hr/> & friends are valid where
bare text is allowed. Your example
I didn't give an example.
now had them inside a <p> or <div> or somesuch, whereas in the 2003
example they were not in a valid context.
That was my point, sorry if I didn't phrase it well. <hr> is often used
where bare text is not allowed while <img> and <br> can only be used where
bare text is allowed. So <hr /> would be invalid as the ">" bare text isn't
allowed there, but <img /> and <br /> pass the test.
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David Dorward <http://blog.dorward.me .uk/> <http://dorward.me.uk/>
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Thomas Jedenfelt wrote: Currently (April 2005), the Validator validates <br /> and <img />, but
not <hr />, as HTML 4.01 Strict.
Maybe, maybe not. It depends where you use it.
http://dorward.me.uk/tmp/the-slash-issue.html
May not be valid HTML 4.01
<hr />, <hr>>, <meta />, <link />
All of those may be valid. <hr> is allowed in some places where character
data is allowed. The end tag of <head> and start tag of <body> are
optional, so if <meta /> or <link /> is the *last* element of the <head>
and the <body> and </head> tags are left out, then its valid. (<link />
becomes <link></head><body>> )
Of course "valid" doesn't mean "good".
Following Liam Quinn's advice, I will use <> for HTML 4.01 Strict and
</> for XHTML, as I have done before.
Yes
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David Dorward <http://blog.dorward.me .uk/> <http://dorward.me.uk/>
Home is where the ~/.bashrc is
"Thomas Jedenfelt" <th************ ****@operamail. com> writes: Hello Yucca,
Thanks for replying.
The discussion seems to concern two issues:
Quite.
1. Inverting Korpela's 22nd law doesn't work.
2. Neither does ignoring the 3rd.
I will finnish tomorrow.
That's highly unlikely.
Yucca will be finnish tomorrow for sure, you on the other hand will
provide a minimal testcase.
A minimal testcase would approximately look like this:
<http://validator.w3.or g/check?uri=http://sandbox.bednarz .nl/.swap/gimmeabr.html&s s=1&sp=1>
(DUH! :)
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