The XHTML file below creates a 2x2 matrix of square images. There is
always some space at the bottom borders of the cells (when rendered
with Gecko and KHTML, not with IE) and I've found no way so far to
make it disappear. If I use XHTML 1.0 Transitional instead of Strict
the extra space below the cells disappears.
Is it impossible to create seamless images tables in XHTML Strict?
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<style type="text/css">
table.puzzle{
border-collapse: collapse;
border: 1px solid red;
}
.puzzle td {
padding: 0;
}
img {
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<table class="puzzle">
<tr>
<td><img src="p00.jpg" /></td>
<td><img src="p10.jpg" /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><img src="p01.jpg" /></td>
<td><img src="p11.jpg" /></td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>
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Peter Maas <pe***@somewher e.com> wrote: The XHTML file below creates a 2x2 matrix of square images.
Don't post code to the group, post a url of a minimized example that
demonstrates the issue.
There is
always some space at the bottom borders of the cells (when rendered
with Gecko and KHTML, not with IE)
Just a guess since your code would be useless to demonstrate the issue:
img{vertical-align:text-bottom} or another appropriate value.
Note that this is a style issue and should thus have been posted to
ciwas.
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Peter Maas <pe***@somewher e.com> wrote: The XHTML file below creates a 2x2 matrix of square images. There is
always some space at the bottom borders of the cells (when rendered
with Gecko and KHTML, not with IE) and I've found no way so far to
make it disappear. If I use XHTML 1.0 Transitional instead of Strict
the extra space below the cells disappears.
Is it impossible to create seamless images tables in XHTML Strict?
Yes. This issue has nothing at all to do with XHTML Strict. The same
bahaviour can be seen if you used HTML Transitional with a doctype
that triggers standards mode.
In standards mode the browsers apply the CSS formating correctly. This
means that the image sits on the text baseline regardless of whether
there is any other text present or not. Some space must always be left
below the baseline.
To fix it make images block level elements. i.e. in your case
..puzzle img {display: block;}
Of course one has to ask why you are using XHTML Strict and what very
much seems to be a layout table. But the issue above will occur with
any element not just table cells so even when you move onto a
tableless layout you will still need to remember this.
Steve
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Steve Pugh <st***@pugh.net > <http://steve.pugh.net/>
Peter Maas wrote:
.... Is it impossible to create seamless images tables in XHTML Strict?
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
...and the presence of the xml prolog will cause WinIE to go into
quirks mode. {Probably not what you want.) http://www.quirksmode.org/css/quirksmode.html
about halfway down the page:
"Explorer Windows special: the xml prolog
In Explorer 6 Windows, Microsoft implemented one extra rule: if a
doctype that triggers strict mode is preceded by an xml prolog, the
page shows in quirks mode. This was done to allow web developers to
achieve valid pages (which require a doctype) but nonetheless stay in
quirks mode."
I wonder about that last sentence, though. <g> Was it really intentional?
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Spartanicus schrieb: The XHTML file below creates a 2x2 matrix of square images.
Don't post code to the group, post a url of a minimized example that
demonstrates the issue.
Sorry. I tried to make the code as small as possible. It is now
594 byte on 30 lines, about 18 sec download time on a 300 baud
acoustic coupler ;)
There is
always some space at the bottom borders of the cells (when rendered
with Gecko and KHTML, not with IE)
Just a guess since your code would be useless to demonstrate the issue:
It is a working example. If you talk about the images: one can grab any
local image and refer to it four times. Not that I intended anybody
to do this - I simply wanted to give a complete problem descrition.
img{vertical-align:text-bottom} or another appropriate value.
That does the trick, thanks!
Note that this is a style issue and should thus have been posted to
ciwas.
Sorry again. I thought that CSS and HTML are closely related. Is it
really necessary to split HTML related topics between separate news-
groups? This group seems to have about 40 postings/day, same in ciwas.
In comp.lang.pytho n we have 160 postings/day and nobody talks about
splitting.
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty schrieb: ..and the presence of the xml prolog will cause WinIE to go into quirks
mode. {Probably not what you want.)
Thanks for the hint.
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Henri Sivonen schrieb: http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/faq.html#gaps
Thanks for the URL. Please don't think that I didn't do some searches
before posting here but I never used the word "gap" so I didn't find
this one :)
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Steve Pugh schrieb: Is it impossible to create seamless images tables in XHTML Strict?
Yes. This issue has nothing at all to do with XHTML Strict. The same
bahaviour can be seen if you used HTML Transitional with a doctype
that triggers standards mode.
I noticed that that I could switch this behaviour on/off by enabling
XHTML Strict/Transitional. So this *has* something to do with XHTML
Strict. I never claimed that his happens *only* with XHTML Strict :)
To fix it make images block level elements. i.e. in your case
.puzzle img {display: block;}
Thanks, this works! Henri Sivonen gave me an interesting URL with
some details about this behaviour.
Of course one has to ask why you are using XHTML Strict and what very
much seems to be a layout table.
Tables have been abused for years to solve layout problems they
weren't invented for. So I can understand that there is a sentiment
against using them. But I see no point in doing table-less HTML
just for the sake of itself. There are situations when a grid layout
is appropriate (e.g. to visualize relations) and the HTML tool for
this is the table tag.
I was creating a grid puzzle game so that tables were the natural
choice. I also tried a div based layout with absolute cell positio-
ning but this was clumsy because I had to hard-wire table dimensions
in CSS.
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Peter Maas wrote: Steve Pugh schrieb:
Of course one has to ask why you are using XHTML Strict and what
very much seems to be a layout table.
Tables have been abused for years to solve layout problems they
weren't invented for. So I can understand that there is a sentiment
against using them. But I see no point in doing table-less HTML
just for the sake of itself.
Or to put it another way, I can understand that there's a sentiment in
favour of doing things the bad old way - but then why would one want
to move to Strict XHTML "just for the sake of itself"? One of the
aims of "Strict" (and that means HTML/4.01 Strict just as much as it
means XHTML Strict) was to get rid of presentational clutter from the
logical markup. So you got yourself a new dog but you're still
barking like the old one yourself, it seems.
There are situations when a grid layout is appropriate (e.g. to
visualize relations) and the HTML tool for this is the table tag.
I think you've got that back to front. The table is the tool to
*mark up* the logical relations. The "grid layout" follows naturally,
for presentation in the visual domain. But tables can be rendered in
other domains too, ones for which logical relations are important, but
visual layout is not (speaking browser, maybe some kinds of bot...)
I was creating a grid puzzle game so that tables were the natural
choice.
As far as I'm concerned, this is a discussion about theory. I'm
commenting on the discussion - not on your particular choice of markup
(sorry, I haven't time to see it in that much detail). If its the
right choice then please, feel free to go ahead. I'm just unhappy with
the cart-before-the-horse way in which you seem to be presenting the
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