Adding borders...

[Jon Glazer]

I have an anchor using a class that defines a hover subclass. The issue is
that the anchor itself doesn't have any border and when hovered it adds a
border, the problem is that when it adds the border, the text gets shifted.
Does anyone have any idea how to correct this issue? I would like to create
a transparrent or invisible border (spacer) so that there's room for the
visible border to appear when needed but I cannot seem to get it to work.
Visit http://callandermats.adconn.com/ and hover over left links to see what
I mean. The style sheet for this is:

..menu{
font-size:12px;
text-decoration:none ;
}
..menu:hover{
border-style:groove;
border-width:1;
width=100%;
}

Thanks!

[Jón Fairbairn]

"Jon Glazer" <jg************ ***@adconn.com> writes:

Hahhahahhah

Wow, no I don't develop web sites for blind visitors. None of my clients
even consider that as an issue since their products are almost always
visual. Google has never had an issue indexing our pages.

Black is a background color.

So yep your right, I guess I should spend lots of time dealing with issues
that might effect 0.001% of potential visitors (not).

Gotta say that my clients are very happy, some of which make millions of
dollars on their web sites without anyone saying "hey, one of our customers
cannot tell what we have to offer cuz they don't want to download graphics".
Once I get a few comments like that I may devote a bit more time
concentrating on textual sites.

Any more questions?

Are any of your clients in the UK? Because if they are your
are leaving them open to action under the disability
discrimination act.

--
Jón Fairbairn Jo***********@c l.cam.ac.uk

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Jon Glazer wrote:

Ignorant?

Highly doubtfull.
Not so much any more ...
You need not put ALT="bla bla bla" (commonly referred as "alt
tags") in images (or img) tags.

Really? Take your pages here, then.
http://validator.w3.org/

Only newbies call them alt tags.

Oh, and please learn how to post. Thanks.
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#upside
Get a news reader that accepts the press of the PageDown key.

open the front cover and begin reading there?
the back cover and end up at the front or do you
chapter one or do you start somewhere near
When reading a book, do you start at

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-bts
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[Jon Glazer]

Well this is pointless. Wasting too many calleries on a worthless
conversation thats entirely opinionated. I make a very good living
developing sites and have been for many many years.

Have fun

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.*********@ex ample.invalid> wrote in message
news:34******** *****@individua l.net...

Jon Glazer wrote:

Ignorant?

Highly doubtfull.

Not so much any more ...

You need not put ALT="bla bla bla" (commonly referred as "alt
tags") in images (or img) tags.

Really? Take your pages here, then.
http://validator.w3.org/

Only newbies call them alt tags.

Oh, and please learn how to post. Thanks.
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#upside
Get a news reader that accepts the press of the PageDown key.

open the front cover and begin reading there?
the back cover and end up at the front or do you
chapter one or do you start somewhere near
When reading a book, do you start at

--
-bts
-This space intentionally left blank.

[Jon Glazer]

Already responded...thi s conversation is going no where and does not pertain
to the topic at hand.
"Jón Fairbairn" <jo***********@ cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:wf******** ****@calligramm e.cl.cam.ac.uk. ..

"Jon Glazer" <jg************ ***@adconn.com> writes:

Hahhahahhah

Wow, no I don't develop web sites for blind visitors. None of my clients
even consider that as an issue since their products are almost always
visual. Google has never had an issue indexing our pages.

Black is a background color.

So yep your right, I guess I should spend lots of time dealing with
issues
that might effect 0.001% of potential visitors (not).

Gotta say that my clients are very happy, some of which make millions of
dollars on their web sites without anyone saying "hey, one of our
customers
cannot tell what we have to offer cuz they don't want to download
graphics".
Once I get a few comments like that I may devote a bit more time
concentrating on textual sites.

Any more questions?

Are any of your clients in the UK? Because if they are your
are leaving them open to action under the disability
discrimination act.

--
Jón Fairbairn Jo***********@c l.cam.ac.uk

[Jan Roland Eriksson]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:53:40 GMT, "Jon Glazer"
<jg************ ***@adconn.com> wrote:

Ignorant?
Yes.
Highly doubtfull.

Prove me wrong (if you really know how to).

--
Rex

[Christoph Paeper]

*Jon Glazer* <jg************ ***@adconn.com> :

I make a very good living developing sites

That's the point: It's not about you, the author, but about the many
others, whom your work is (or should be) made for.

--
Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on FTP,
and let the rest of the world mirror it. (Linus Torvalds)

[Jan Roland Eriksson]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:10:09 GMT, "Jon Glazer"
<jg************ ***@adconn.com> wrote:

"Steve Pugh" <st***@pugh.net > wrote in message
news:ln******* *************** **********@4ax. com...

"Jon Glazer" <jg************ ***@adconn.com> wrote: [...] Before or after I suggested doing just that?
Just curious as to whether I totally wasted my time.

OOps sorry steve, forgot to mention that, as I was posting the problem a
possible solution occured to me. You just responded too fast for me to say
I got it fixed. Thanks for the help though!

You for one is exactly ignorant, to the base level of the word itself.

Post to usenet, wait for a discussion to start which may give you
several possibilities on how to solve your problem.

DO NOT change the turf for the guys who might be inclined to help you
out (but in your case I doubt you have many of those left here for you).

--
Rex

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Jon Glazer wrote:

Well this is pointless. Wasting too many calleries
Results 1 - 10 of about 7,080 for calleries. (0.37 seconds)
on a worthless conversation thats entirely opinionated. I make a
very good living developing sites and have been for many many
years.
You're cheating someone... maybe lots of someones...
Have fun

We are, top-poster.

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-bts
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[Alexander Mueller]

Jan Roland Eriksson wrote:

Post to usenet, wait for a discussion to start which may give you
several possibilities on how to solve your problem.

The given "advices" were not related to Jon's actual question.

Alexander

[Nik Thomas]

Jon Glazer.exe failed a Turing test with

Well this is pointless. Wasting too many calleries on a worthless
conversation thats entirely opinionated. I make a very good living
developing sites and have been for many many years.

Have fun

You are William G Schlake and I claim my £5.

Nik

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