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....you experienced programmers of C; did you start with C? What course
of study did you pursue to get to where you are today? Would you
suggest starting with REALbasic first for a n00b? I am completely new
to programming and using a Mac and would like some input as to where to
begin a career in programming. I know this is probably a somewhat
undefined question, but would appreciate you input/advice. Thanks.

Nov 15 '05
33 1809
In article <43************ ***********@mas ter.news.zetnet .net>,
John B <sp************ ******@zetnet.c o.uk> wrote:
The secret of a good programmer is nothing to do with which language you
write your code in but everything to do with planning the program correctly,
understandin g what the program is supposed to do and getting the logic
correct. Once you have written your program in pseudo-code then translate it
to whichever language you need to use for the customer that is paying your
wages.


Although that is generally sound advice, it fails for real-time systems,
embedded systems, and parallel programming: for those, it is crucial
that you consider the target system characteristics when creating
your program design.
--
If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge. -- Eric Sosman
Nov 15 '05 #31
"Walter Roberson" <ro******@ibd.n rc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote in message
news:dk******** **@canopus.cc.u manitoba.ca...
In article <43************ ***********@mas ter.news.zetnet .net>,
John B <sp************ ******@zetnet.c o.uk> wrote:
The secret of a good programmer is nothing to do with which language youwrite your code in but everything to do with planning the program correctly,understandin g what the program is supposed to do and getting the logiccorrect. Once you have written your program in pseudo-code then translate itto whichever language you need to use for the customer that is paying yourwages.
Although that is generally sound advice, it fails for real-time

systems, embedded systems, and parallel programming: for those, it is crucial
that you consider the target system characteristics when creating
your program design.


Yeah. That's good advice for a first time programmer, "Let's make a
microwave oven, kids! Next week, we're gonna program the Hubble
Telescope! SETI needs your help!"

--
Mabden
Nov 15 '05 #32
"Walter Roberson" <ro******@ibd.n rc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote in message
news:dk******** **@canopus.cc.u manitoba.ca...
In article <11************ *********@o13g2 000cwo.googlegr oups.com>,
<ea***********@ earthlink.net> wrote:
...you experienced programmers of C; did you start with C?

Just learn .NET - Any version.

In recent years, I have run across an essay that says, in all
seriousness, that if you want a good career, then do not go into
computer science: that the field is too flooded already with
programmers who do a "good enough" job; that companies are cutting
back on in-house programming; that companies are outsourcing a
lot of programming jobs to third-world countries... and some other
reasons I do not recall.
We have become a commodity. It was once "hard" to program computers
because you had to "read books and stuff". Now all anybody wants is a
web page. How is the "hard". MS Word ca make a web page...
If you are looking for a "career", then pick a field which is going to
be in big demand in the timeframe when you are going to be at your
prime -- oh, say, ecological reclamation, water purification science,
geriatic care, species extinction prevention, or pulling companies (or
countries) out of bankruptcy.
Indeed. Programming is for suckers. China will eat India's lunch in the
next 20 years, write it down. India better find a new job sphere,
because they have invented an idea that will bite their ass.
The path I followed is not one that can just be rationally "chosen".
You've heard of writers who must write, or painters who must paint...
some of us are programmers because we *must* be so.


Unfortunately, not in a good way. Sometimes I feel like the Realist
artist, but everyone has moved on to Surreal...
:-
(

--
Mabden
Nov 15 '05 #33
"Walter Roberson" <ro******@ibd.n rc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote in message
news:dk******** **@canopus.cc.u manitoba.ca...

I suspect you did not mean to write that friends are a form of
monstrosity ;-)


You haven't met my friends...

--
Mabden
Nov 15 '05 #34

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