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Although Steve Summit's C FAQ is really good, are there any C FAQ wikis?

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one's freedom stops where others' begin

Giannis Papadopoulos
http://dop.users.uth.gr/
University of Thessaly
Computer & Communications Engineering dept.
Nov 15 '05 #1
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Bob

Giannis Papadopoulos wrote:
Although Steve Summit's C FAQ is really good, are there any
C FAQ wikis?

--
one's freedom stops where others' begin


Not that I know of, but that's a great idea. The folks over
at comp.graphics.a lgorithms just inaugurated their FAQ wiki.
After years of stagnatation, their FAQ has become a living
document:

http://cgafaq.info/wiki/Main_Page

Nov 15 '05 #2
Bob wrote:
Giannis Papadopoulos wrote:
Although Steve Summit's C FAQ is really good, are there any
C FAQ wikis?

--
one's freedom stops where others' begin

Not that I know of, but that's a great idea. The folks over
at comp.graphics.a lgorithms just inaugurated their FAQ wiki.
After years of stagnatation, their FAQ has become a living
document:

http://cgafaq.info/wiki/Main_Page


If there is not such a thing, is anyone interested in starting one?

Unfortunately, I am about to acquire my diploma - I have to present my
thesis this month, so if it happens, I was thinking after September.
--
one's freedom stops where others' begin

Giannis Papadopoulos
http://dop.users.uth.gr/
University of Thessaly
Computer & Communications Engineering dept.
Nov 15 '05 #3
Giannis Papadopoulos wrote:
Although Steve Summit's C FAQ is really good, are there any C FAQ wikis?


The idea of a document that anyone can edit is very democratic, but
democracy has little to do with correctness.

A C FAQ wiki is likely to end up as yet another Web repository full of junk
waiting to be debunked by clc experts. Life's too short.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
mail: rjh at above domain
Nov 15 '05 #4
Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:
Giannis Papadopoulos wrote:
Although Steve Summit's C FAQ is really good, are there any C FAQ wikis?


The idea of a document that anyone can edit is very democratic, but
democracy has little to do with correctness.

A C FAQ wiki is likely to end up as yet another Web repository full of junk
waiting to be debunked by clc experts. Life's too short.


How about if the wiki:
* were invitation-only and maintained by clc experts
* were initialised with the content of the current FAQ
* emailed individual or batch updates to its invited maintainer list
(to ensure that inaccuracies could be corrected in short order)?

I support the idea of a wiki because many threads contain new and
useful information that isn't in the current FAQ. Whilst this information
may not qualify as a FAQ, it would be better archived in a structured
format rather than newsgroup postings, particularly because many threads
also contain inaccuracies, noise and corrections, and the final correct
information may be hidden or scattered about the thread. I've considered
doing this myself but don't have the time to format the information and
as an individual I'm likely to commit errors myself. A group effort, on
the other hand, could achieve this. In other words I'm suggesting that a
wiki could supplement and summarise the proceedings of the newsgroup.
It's not without problems, but this group's experts are problem solvers
and they aren't insurmountable problems.

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http://members.dodo.com.au/~netocrat
Nov 15 '05 #5
Netocrat wrote:
Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:

A C FAQ wiki is likely to end up as yet another Web repository full of
junk waiting to be debunked by clc experts. Life's too short.


How about if the wiki:
* were invitation-only and maintained by clc experts
* were initialised with the content of the current FAQ
* emailed individual or batch updates to its invited maintainer list
(to ensure that inaccuracies could be corrected in short order)?


Yes, that could work.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
mail: rjh at above domain
Nov 15 '05 #6
Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:
Netocrat wrote:
Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:

A C FAQ wiki is likely to end up as yet another Web repository full of
junk waiting to be debunked by clc experts. Life's too short.


How about if the wiki:
* were invitation-only and maintained by clc experts
* were initialised with the content of the current FAQ
* emailed individual or batch updates to its invited maintainer list
(to ensure that inaccuracies could be corrected in short order)?


Yes, that could work.


Yes? Who decides who is invited? You? Me? Dan Pop? Paul Hsieh? Xah Lee?

The current FAQ is (c) Steve Summit, btw.

Richard
Nov 15 '05 #7
Richard Bos wrote:
Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:
Netocrat wrote:
> Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:
>>
>> A C FAQ wiki is likely to end up as yet another Web repository full of
>> junk waiting to be debunked by clc experts. Life's too short.
>
> How about if the wiki:
> * were invitation-only and maintained by clc experts
> * were initialised with the content of the current FAQ
> * emailed individual or batch updates to its invited maintainer list
> (to ensure that inaccuracies could be corrected in short order)?
Yes, that could work.


Yes? Who decides who is invited? You? Me? Dan Pop? Paul Hsieh? Xah Lee?


Chris Torek, obviously. Duh.

The current FAQ is (c) Steve Summit, btw.


Oops. So it is. Perhaps we should get our own FAQ for this newsgroup,
instead of relying on someone else's all the time.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
mail: rjh at above domain
Nov 15 '05 #8
Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:
Richard Bos wrote:
Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:
Netocrat wrote:

> Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:
>>
>> A C FAQ wiki is likely to end up as yet another Web repository full of
>> junk waiting to be debunked by clc experts. Life's too short.
>
> How about if the wiki:
> * were invitation-only and maintained by clc experts
> * were initialised with the content of the current FAQ
> * emailed individual or batch updates to its invited maintainer list
> (to ensure that inaccuracies could be corrected in short order)?

Yes, that could work.


Yes? Who decides who is invited? You? Me? Dan Pop? Paul Hsieh? Xah Lee?


Chris Torek, obviously. Duh.


<g> You have a point, but would he?
The current FAQ is (c) Steve Summit, btw.


Oops. So it is. Perhaps we should get our own FAQ for this newsgroup,
instead of relying on someone else's all the time.


To be honest, I'm not altogether happy with the current situation, in
which something called The c.l.c Newsgroup FAQ is sold for money, and
not posted in this newsgroup in its entirety. Then again, I shouldn't
complain, since I don't see myself getting off my arse and doing
something about it.

Richard
Nov 15 '05 #9
Richard Bos wrote:
Richard Heathfield <in*****@addres s.co.uk.invalid > wrote:
Richard Bos wrote:
> Yes? Who decides who is invited? You? Me? Dan Pop? Paul Hsieh? Xah Lee?
Chris Torek, obviously. Duh.


<g> You have a point, but would he?


I don't know. We could always ask him, and find out that way.
> The current FAQ is (c) Steve Summit, btw.


Oops. So it is. Perhaps we should get our own FAQ for this newsgroup,
instead of relying on someone else's all the time.


To be honest, I'm not altogether happy with the current situation, in
which something called The c.l.c Newsgroup FAQ is sold for money, and
not posted in this newsgroup in its entirety.


Especially since it doesn't reflect best practice, containing as it does a
number of anachronisms. Many a time I've wanted to fix some of those, but
couldn't because the C FAQ isn't mine to tamper with.
Then again, I shouldn't
complain, since I don't see myself getting off my arse and doing
something about it.


Maybe we could sort out some kind of mirror for you?
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
mail: rjh at above domain
Nov 15 '05 #10

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