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Hi clc,

I want to know few examples of freestanding environments.

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Nov 14 '05 #1
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"Vijay Kumar R Zanvar" <vi*****@hotpop .com> writes:
I want to know few examples of freestanding environments.


Cell phones, microwave ovens, washing machines, VCRs, DVD players...

Martin ( <-- that's my name, /not/ an example of a freestanding
environment)
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Nov 14 '05 #2
Martin Dickopp <ex************ ****@zero-based.org> spoke thus:
Martin ( <-- that's my name, /not/ an example of a freestanding
environment)


Well, you don't walk with a cane, do you? Then you're freestanding ;)

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Nov 14 '05 #3
In <c2************ *@ID-203837.news.uni-berlin.de> "Vijay Kumar R Zanvar" <vi*****@hotpop .com> writes:
I want to know few examples of freestanding environments.


Any high end microwave oven, washing machine, TV set etc etc.
Your computer's keyboard, your computer's hard disk, your computer's OS
(and very likely your computer's monitor and graphics card).

Practically any computing environment that is not under the control of an
operating system is a freestanding environment.

Dan
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Dan Pop
DESY Zeuthen, RZ group
Email: Da*****@ifh.de
Nov 14 '05 #4
Christopher Benson-Manica <at***@nospam.c yberspace.org> writes:
Martin Dickopp <ex************ ****@zero-based.org> spoke thus:
Martin ( <-- that's my name, /not/ an example of a freestanding
environment)
Well, you don't walk with a cane, do you?


Neither do I, nor does my name.
Then you're freestanding ;)


But I'm not an environment, and neither is my name.

It could be argued that my name is sometimes freestanding in the sense
that it is the only item in a paragraph of text (like in this posting).
However, that was /not/ the case in my previous posting, where my name
wasn't freestanding, but accompanied the statement that it isn't a
freestanding environment. ;)

Martin
--
,--. Martin Dickopp, Dresden, Germany ,= ,-_-. =.
/ ,- ) http://www.zero-based.org/ ((_/)o o(\_))
\ `-' `-'(. .)`-'
`-. Debian, a variant of the GNU operating system. \_/
Nov 14 '05 #5
Dan Pop wrote:

In <c2************ *@ID-203837.news.uni-berlin.de> "Vijay Kumar R Zanvar" <vi*****@hotpop .com> writes:
I want to know few examples of freestanding environments.


Any high end microwave oven, washing machine, TV set etc etc.
Your computer's keyboard, your computer's hard disk, your computer's OS
(and very likely your computer's monitor and graphics card).

Practically any computing environment that is not under the control of an
operating system is a freestanding environment.


.... and as a particular example, the operating system itself
is usually a freestanding environment.

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Er*********@sun .com
Nov 14 '05 #6
In <cu************ *@zero-based.org> Martin Dickopp <ex************ ****@zero-based.org> writes:
"Vijay Kumar R Zanvar" <vi*****@hotpop .com> writes:
I want to know few examples of freestanding environments.


Cell phones, microwave ovens, washing machines, VCRs, DVD players...


Your favourite mistake at work again: microwave ovens and washing machines
need not be freestanding environments, for the simple reason that they
can be (and are) built without any embedded computer.

The first VCRs, too, but they are museum exhibits, by now :-)

Dan
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Dan Pop
DESY Zeuthen, RZ group
Email: Da*****@ifh.de
Nov 14 '05 #7
Da*****@cern.ch (Dan Pop) writes:
In <c2************ *@ID-203837.news.uni-berlin.de> "Vijay Kumar R Zanvar" <vi*****@hotpop .com> writes:
I want to know few examples of freestanding environments.


Any high end microwave oven, washing machine, TV set etc etc.


Your favourite mistake at work again: high end microwave ovens and
washing machines need not be freestanding environments, for the simple
reason that they can be (and are) programmed in languages other than C
where the term "freestandi ng environment" isn't defined.

Martin
--
,--. Martin Dickopp, Dresden, Germany ,= ,-_-. =.
/ ,- ) http://www.zero-based.org/ ((_/)o o(\_))
\ `-' `-'(. .)`-'
`-. Debian, a variant of the GNU operating system. \_/
Nov 14 '05 #8
In <40************ ***@sun.com> Eric Sosman <Er*********@su n.com> writes:
Dan Pop wrote:

In <c2************ *@ID-203837.news.uni-berlin.de> "Vijay Kumar R Zanvar" <vi*****@hotpop .com> writes:
>I want to know few examples of freestanding environments.


Any high end microwave oven, washing machine, TV set etc etc.
Your computer's keyboard, your computer's hard disk, your computer's OS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ (and very likely your computer's monitor and graphics card).

Practically any computing environment that is not under the control of an
operating system is a freestanding environment.


... and as a particular example, the operating system itself
is usually a freestanding environment.


Any particular point in repeating my own example?

Dan
--
Dan Pop
DESY Zeuthen, RZ group
Email: Da*****@ifh.de
Nov 14 '05 #9
In <cu************ *@zero-based.org> Martin Dickopp <ex************ ****@zero-based.org> writes:
Da*****@cern.c h (Dan Pop) writes:
In <c2************ *@ID-203837.news.uni-berlin.de> "Vijay Kumar R Zanvar" <vi*****@hotpop .com> writes:
I want to know few examples of freestanding environments.


Any high end microwave oven, washing machine, TV set etc etc.


Your favourite mistake at work again: high end microwave ovens and
washing machines need not be freestanding environments, for the simple
reason that they can be (and are) programmed in languages other than C
where the term "freestandi ng environment" isn't defined.


Freestanding environment is a general concept, that has precious little
to do with one programming language or another. Ditto for hosted
environment.

And an executable binary is an executable binary, regardless of the
language(s) it was written in, before being translated to an executable
binary.

Try engaging your brain next time!

Dan
--
Dan Pop
DESY Zeuthen, RZ group
Email: Da*****@ifh.de
Nov 14 '05 #10

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