Hi,
I am just learning about the array/pointer duality in C/C++. I couldn't
help wondering, is there a way to pass an array by value? It seems like
the only way to do is to pass it by reference??
Thanks,
BB
Jul 23 '05
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"puzzlecrac ker" <ir*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ l41g2000cwc.goo glegroups.com.. . The only way to pass an array by value is to encapsulate it in a struct: #include <iostream>
struct Array { int A[10]; };
void f(Array a) { int* A = a.A; for (size_t j = 0; j < 10; ++j) std::cout << ' ' << A[j]; std::cout << std::endl; }
this is not going to work - you need to define a copy constructor, otherwise you still passing an address fo the first element i.e. not copied first element. please correct me if I am wrong!
You are wrong in this case, because the array is statically initialized.
You would be correct if it were dynamically initialized, as in the following
example:
#include <iostream>
#include <iterator>
#include <algorithm>
class Array {
int* p_;
size_t sz_;
public:
typedef int* iterator;
typedef const int* const_iterator;
iterator begin() {return p_;}
iterator end() {return p_ + sz_;}
const_iterator begin() const {return p_;}
const_iterator end() const {return p_ + sz_;}
Array(size_t sz) : p_(new int[sz]), sz_(sz) {}
Array(Array const& a) : p_(new int[a.sz_]), sz_(a.sz_) {
std::copy(a.beg in(), a.end(), begin());
}
~Array() {
if (p_) {
delete [] p_;
p_=0; sz_=0;
}
}
};
void print(Array a) { // pass by value
using std::copy;
using std::cout;
copy(a.begin(), a.end(), std::ostream_it erator<int>(cou t," "));
cout << std::endl;
}
int main() {
Array a(10);
Array::iterator in=a.begin();
for (int i=0; in!=a.end(); ++in,++i)
*in=i;
print(a);
}
In message <11************ **********@c13g 2000cwb.googleg roups.com>,
puzzlecracker <ir*********@gm ail.com> writes #include <iostream>
struct Array { int A[10]; Arrray(const Array &a) { if(a) while(*A++=*a++ ); else A=0; } };
void f(Array a) { int* A = a.A; for (size_t j = 0; j < 10; ++j) std::cout << ' ' << A[j]; std::cout<<std: :endl;
What is that supposed to do?
Have you tried compiling it?
--
Richard Herring
In message <ct**********@n ntp1.jpl.nasa.g ov>, E. Robert Tisdale
<E.************ **@jpl.nasa.gov > writes Berk Birand wrote:
Also another question that pops in my mind mind is whether to use references or pointers in function headers. Is it better practice to declare a function as, say: void afunc(int& i); Or is it better to declare it as void afunc(int* i); I know that, in the second case, one has to explicitly dereference i whenever one wants to access it. But this can be considered a good thing, as it makes it more obvious that you are manipulating pointers, and the values are going to change. On the other hand, it's just more work!
Avoid functions that modify their arguments. Pass a const reference and return a result by value. Write
int afunct(const int& i);
or
int afunct(const int* p);
instead.
Would you give the same advice if the object being modified were a
million-element vector?
--
Richard Herring
Berk Birand wrote: Thanks to both for your answers. Also another question that pops in
my mind is whether to use references or pointers in function headers. Is
it better practice to declare a function as, say:
void afunc(int& i);
or is it better to declare it as
void afunc(int* i);
I know that in the second case, one has to explicitly dereference i whenever one wants to access it. But this can be considered a good thing, as it makes it more obvious that you are manipulating
pointers, and the values are going to change. On the other hand, it's just more
work! So, what do you say about this?
This is a question of personal preferences. I prefer to use a pointer,
because when you use the function, it is more explicit that you are
modifying the value:
SomeStruct s = { ... };
modifyingFunc(& s); // might be modified.
However, if the function does not modify, then I prefer to use const
ref for big structs/classes and just copy by value for small ones:
SomeStruct s = { ... };
nonModifyingFun c(s); // will not be modified
Again, this is just personal preference (it is not a *rule*), but I
feel it makes code easier to read especially when you don't want to
keep looking up function definitions.
Hope this helps,
-shez-
In message <36************ *@individual.ne t>, Dave Moore
<dt*****@email. unc.edu> writes "puzzlecracker " <ir*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message news:11******* *************** @l41g2000cwc.go oglegroups.com. .. > The only way to pass an array by value is to encapsulate it in a struct: > > #include <iostream> > > struct Array { > int A[10]; > }; > > void f(Array a) { > int* A = a.A; > for (size_t j = 0; j < 10; ++j) > std::cout << ' ' << A[j]; > std::cout << std::endl; > }
this is not going to work - you need to define a copy constructor, otherwise you still passing an address fo the first element i.e. not copied first element. please correct me if I am wrong!
You are wrong in this case, because the array is statically initialized. You would be correct if it were dynamically initialized, as in the following example:
The issue here isn't between "static" versus "dynamic" initialisation.
Those terms have a different meaning. It's the fact that in your example
the class member is a *pointer* to the data. Pointers tend to invoke the
Rule of Three. #include <iostream> #include <iterator> #include <algorithm>
class Array { int* p_; size_t sz_; public: typedef int* iterator; typedef const int* const_iterator;
iterator begin() {return p_;} iterator end() {return p_ + sz_;} const_iterator begin() const {return p_;} const_iterator end() const {return p_ + sz_;}
Array(size_t sz) : p_(new int[sz]), sz_(sz) {} Array(Array const& a) : p_(new int[a.sz_]), sz_(a.sz_) { std::copy(a.beg in(), a.end(), begin()); } ~Array() { if (p_) {
Superfluous test delete [] p_; p_=0; sz_=0;
Why zero something that's about to be destroyed anyway? } }
You're living dangerously. Where's the copy assignment operator? The
compiler-generated one isn't going to work, for the same reason that you
had to provide a copy constructor and a destructor. };
void print(Array a) { // pass by value using std::copy; using std::cout;
copy(a.begin(), a.end(), std::ostream_it erator<int>(cou t," ")); cout << std::endl; }
int main() { Array a(10); Array::iterator in=a.begin();
for (int i=0; in!=a.end(); ++in,++i) *in=i;
print(a); }
--
Richard Herring
Richard Herring wrote: In message <36************ *@individual.ne t>, Dave Moore <dt*****@email. unc.edu> writes "puzzlecracker " <ir*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message news:11******* *************** @l41g2000cwc.go oglegroups.com. .. > The only way to pass an array by value is to encapsulate it in a struct: > > #include <iostream> > > struct Array { > int A[10]; > }; > > void f(Array a) { > int* A = a.A; > for (size_t j = 0; j < 10; ++j) > std::cout << ' ' << A[j]; > std::cout << std::endl; > }
this is not going to work - you need to define a copy constructor, otherwise you still passing an address fo the first element i.e. not copied first element. please correct me if I am wrong!
You are wrong in this case, because the array is statically initialized. You would be correct if it were dynamically initialized, as in the following example:
The issue here isn't between "static" versus "dynamic" initialisation. Those terms have a different meaning. It's the fact that in your example the class member is a *pointer* to the data.
How come?
In the posted example indeed an array is a member of the struct and not
a pointer. No further action is required. When the struct is passed per
value, a copy of the entire struct is generated and thus the array itself
gets copied.
So, Dave Moore is right
puzzlecracker is wrong
Tisdale is right (who posted that example)
--
Karl Heinz Buchegger kb******@gascad .at
In message <42************ ***@gascad.at>, Karl Heinz Buchegger
<kb******@gasca d.at> writes Richard Herring wrote: In message <36************ *@individual.ne t>, Dave Moore <dt*****@email. unc.edu> writes > >"puzzlecracker " <ir*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message >news:11******* *************** @l41g2000cwc.go oglegroups.com. .. >> >> > The only way to pass an array by value is to encapsulate it in a >> struct: >> > >> > #include <iostream> >> > >> > struct Array { >> > int A[10]; >> > }; >> > >> > void f(Array a) { >> > int* A = a.A; >> > for (size_t j = 0; j < 10; ++j) >> > std::cout << ' ' << A[j]; >> > std::cout << std::endl; >> > } >> >> this is not going to work - you need to define a copy constructor, >> otherwise you still passing an address fo the first element i.e. not >> copied first element. please correct me if I am wrong! >> > >You are wrong in this case, because the array is statically initialized. >You would be correct if it were dynamically initialized, as in the following >example: The issue here isn't between "static" versus "dynamic" initialisation. Those terms have a different meaning. It's the fact that in your example the class member is a *pointer* to the data.
How come? In the posted example indeed an array is a member of the struct and not a pointer. No further action is required. When the struct is passed per value, a copy of the entire struct is generated and thus the array itself gets copied.
Yes, that's quite true. Note that you didn't use the words "static",
"dynamic" or "initialization ". The point is that the compiler-generated
shallow copy will suffice for an array, but you have to write your own
deep copy for what a pointer points to. So, Dave Moore is right
His example is (mostly) right. His explanation is wrong.
puzzlecracker is wrong Tisdale is right (who posted that example)
--
Richard Herring
"Richard Herring" <ju**@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:Ws******** ******@baesyste ms.com... In message <36************ *@individual.ne t>, Dave Moore <dt*****@email. unc.edu> writes "puzzlecracker " <ir*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message news:11******* *************** @l41g2000cwc.go oglegroups.com. .. > The only way to pass an array by value is to encapsulate it in a struct: > > #include <iostream> > > struct Array { > int A[10]; > }; > > void f(Array a) { > int* A = a.A; > for (size_t j = 0; j < 10; ++j) > std::cout << ' ' << A[j]; > std::cout << std::endl; > }
this is not going to work - you need to define a copy constructor, otherwise you still passing an address fo the first element i.e. not copied first element. please correct me if I am wrong!
You are wrong in this case, because the array is statically initialized. You would be correct if it were dynamically initialized, as in the
followingexample:
The issue here isn't between "static" versus "dynamic" initialisation. Those terms have a different meaning. It's the fact that in your example the class member is a *pointer* to the data. Pointers tend to invoke the Rule of Three.
Well, perhaps my explanation would have been more clear if I had said static
and dynamic *allocation* instead of initialization. However, you can't
initialize something unless you have allocated storage for it, so my given
explanation is correct by implication. #include <iostream> #include <iterator> #include <algorithm>
class Array { int* p_; size_t sz_; public: typedef int* iterator; typedef const int* const_iterator;
iterator begin() {return p_;} iterator end() {return p_ + sz_;} const_iterator begin() const {return p_;} const_iterator end() const {return p_ + sz_;}
Array(size_t sz) : p_(new int[sz]), sz_(sz) {} Array(Array const& a) : p_(new int[a.sz_]), sz_(a.sz_) { std::copy(a.beg in(), a.end(), begin()); } ~Array() { if (p_) {
Superfluous test delete [] p_; p_=0; sz_=0; Why zero something that's about to be destroyed anyway?
These are habits I picked up before the standardization of C++, when
compilers didn't always handle destruction of base classes properly. I
spent a long time trying to figure out why the ^&(*^ I was getting
seg-faults during the destruction phase after main had finished. Putting
such superfluous checks and zero-sets seemed got rid of the errors, for
whatever reason. You are of course correct that they are probably
unnecessary with current compilers. However I haven't had to write a
container class like the above for a while .. I use STL containers now ..
much easier 8*). } }
You're living dangerously. Where's the copy assignment operator? The compiler-generated one isn't going to work, for the same reason that you had to provide a copy constructor and a destructor.
Point taken .. omitting the copy assignment operator was an oversight ... I
was just trying to come up with a quick illustration to help alleviate
puzzlecracker's confusion.
[snip]
Dave Moore
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:48:25 -0500 in comp.lang.c++, Berk Birand
<gr******@yahoo .com> wrote, I am just learning about the array/pointer duality in C/C++. I couldn't help wondering, is there a way to pass an array by value?
Not directly, no.
It seems like the only way to do is to pass it by reference??
The assumption in C was that it would be a horrible thing to copy
arrays in order to call functions. Too big, too expensive.
Of course in C++ you will typically be using std::vector instead of
bare naked arrays for ordinary application purposes. So, the task
becomes that of being careful to pass by reference, and not by value
requiring a copy.
In message <36************ *@individual.ne t>, Dave Moore
<dt*****@email. unc.edu> writes "Richard Herring" <ju**@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message news:Ws******* *******@baesyst ems.com... In message <36************ *@individual.ne t>, Dave Moore <dt*****@email. unc.edu> writes > >"puzzlecracker " <ir*********@gm ail.com> wrote in message >news:11******* *************** @l41g2000cwc.go oglegroups.com. .. >> >> > The only way to pass an array by value is to encapsulate it in a >> struct: >> > >> > #include <iostream> >> > >> > struct Array { >> > int A[10]; >> > }; >> > >> > void f(Array a) { >> > int* A = a.A; >> > for (size_t j = 0; j < 10; ++j) >> > std::cout << ' ' << A[j]; >> > std::cout << std::endl; >> > } >> >> this is not going to work - you need to define a copy constructor, >> otherwise you still passing an address fo the first element i.e. not >> copied first element. please correct me if I am wrong! >> > >You are wrong in this case, because the array is statically initialized. >You would be correct if it were dynamically initialized, as in thefollowing >example:
The issue here isn't between "static" versus "dynamic" initialisation. Those terms have a different meaning. It's the fact that in your example the class member is a *pointer* to the data. Pointers tend to invoke the Rule of Three.
Well, perhaps my explanation would have been more clear if I had said static and dynamic *allocation* instead of initialization. However, you can't initialize something unless you have allocated storage for it, so my given explanation is correct by implication.
Not really. What I'm objecting to is the words "static" and "dynamic",
whatever it is that they describe. Not all use of pointers implies
dynamic allocation. Objects in automatic storage aren't static.
The real issue is the difference between shallow and deep copying, and
the circumstances (ownership of a resource that lies outside the object)
that require the latter.
[snip]
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