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Does anybody here have any input on how to start learning C++. I am
hoping nobody tells me to take courses. I am still in college and
tried taking courses but found that all the details about pseudocode
and other programming basics drove me insane. I think after taking
that course and from general knowledge I have picked up I am pretty
familiar with the way programs are built on a basic level at least. I
am not looking to make a career of programming, I simply want
familiarity with such languages as C++ because it can help in many IT
jobs to be able to throw together small programs. This is why I am
also interested in VB and curious about any other languages that can
be useful. Thanks to all of you for taking the time to read this and
I hope I get some answers.

-- Ari Winokur

ari_winokur at comcast dot net
Jul 22 '05 #1
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"Ari W." <ar*********@co mcast.net> wrote in message
news:64******** *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com...
Does anybody here have any input on how to start learning C++. I am
hoping nobody tells me to take courses. I am still in college and
tried taking courses but found that all the details about pseudocode
and other programming basics drove me insane. I think after taking
that course and from general knowledge I have picked up I am pretty
familiar with the way programs are built on a basic level at least. I
am not looking to make a career of programming, I simply want
familiarity with such languages as C++ because it can help in many IT
jobs to be able to throw together small programs. This is why I am
also interested in VB and curious about any other languages that can
be useful. Thanks to all of you for taking the time to read this and
I hope I get some answers.


I don't think C++ is a suitable language for throwing together small
programs. Its a difficult language to master and unless you are prepared to
study hard and use it a lot its not going to repay any investment you make.
VB, C# and Java all sound more suitable for what you want to do. Perhaps
even better would be scripting languages such as Python and Ruby, but I
don't know much about those.

Everyone learns in a different way, so if course ain't your thing then maybe
you need a good book and some self study. Tools (e.g. compilers) for many
languages are free. And of course the internet is a great resource for
reference and specific problems, just don't expect to learn a language from
a web site.

John
Jul 22 '05 #2
"Ari W." <ar*********@co mcast.net> wrote in message
news:64******** *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com...
Does anybody here have any input on how to start learning C++. I am
hoping nobody tells me to take courses. I am still in college and
tried taking courses but found that all the details about pseudocode
and other programming basics drove me insane. I think after taking
that course and from general knowledge I have picked up I am pretty
familiar with the way programs are built on a basic level at least. I
am not looking to make a career of programming, I simply want
familiarity with such languages as C++ because it can help in many IT
jobs to be able to throw together small programs. This is why I am
also interested in VB and curious about any other languages that can
be useful. Thanks to all of you for taking the time to read this and
I hope I get some answers.


See my reply to this same question you posted to
'alt.comp.lang. learn.c-c++.

Also, if you want to post the same message to more than
one group, don't post them separately, crosspost them.
(Look this stuff up if you don't understand what I mean).

-Mike
Jul 22 '05 #3
Ari W. wrote:
Does anybody here have any input on how to start learning C++. I am
hoping nobody tells me to take courses. I am still in college and
tried taking courses but found that all the details about pseudocode
and other programming basics drove me insane. I think after taking
that course and from general knowledge I have picked up I am pretty
familiar with the way programs are built on a basic level at least. I
am not looking to make a career of programming, I simply want
familiarity with such languages as C++ because it can help in many IT
jobs to be able to throw together small programs. This is why I am
also interested in VB and curious about any other languages that can
be useful. Thanks to all of you for taking the time to read this and
I hope I get some answers.

http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys/learningcpp.htm

--
Ioannis Vranos

http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys
Jul 22 '05 #4
In article <2t************ *@uni-berlin.de>, jo************* @hotmail.com
says...
VB, C# and Java all sound more suitable for what you want to do. Perhaps
even better would be scripting languages such as Python and Ruby, but I
don't know much about those.


It all depends on the available documentation and environment.
If compatibility is not an issue, I would doubtless recommend Ruby. But
then he would possibly need the appropriate book at hand (Programming
Ruby by Thomas/Hunt avail. from AW). But online docu is also available.
Ruby is IMHO the most object-oriented scripting language and therefore a
good preparation for C++.
Also, it is very easy to read, which should help.

Michael B.
Jul 22 '05 #5
Michael Bruschkewitz wrote:
It all depends on the available documentation and environment.
If compatibility is not an issue, I would doubtless recommend Ruby.

Right. He should let C++ to get on... Ruby.
But
then he would possibly need the appropriate book at hand (Programming
Ruby by Thomas/Hunt avail. from AW). But online docu is also available.
Ruby is IMHO the most object-oriented scripting language and therefore a
good preparation for C++.
Also, it is very easy to read, which should help.


Thank you for sharing your insight with us.

--
Ioannis Vranos

http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys
Jul 22 '05 #6
John Harrison wrote:
I don't think C++ is a suitable language for throwing together small
programs.

Here we go again.

Its a difficult language to master and unless you are prepared to
study hard and use it a lot its not going to repay any investment you make.
VB, C# and Java all sound more suitable for what you want to do.

I think someone must tell you that you are telling crap. I know it
sounds harsh, but someone had to tell you the truth some day.


Perhaps
even better would be scripting languages such as Python and Ruby, but I
don't know much about those.

Everyone learns in a different way, so if course ain't your thing then maybe
you need a good book and some self study. Tools (e.g. compilers) for many
languages are free. And of course the internet is a great resource for
reference and specific problems, just don't expect to learn a language from
a web site.

Stop trolling.

--
Ioannis Vranos

http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys
Jul 22 '05 #7
>

Stop trolling.


Just because you disagree with my opinions doesn't mean I was trolling.

john
Jul 22 '05 #8
John Harrison wrote:
Just because you disagree with my opinions doesn't mean I was trolling.

One person asked how he can start learning C++ in comp.lang.c++, and
instead of providing some information on this you tell him to move to
C#, VB and Java (and 2 other idiots to Ruby).

That is trolling.

--
Ioannis Vranos

http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys
Jul 22 '05 #9

"Ioannis Vranos" <iv*@guesswh.at .grad.com> wrote in message
news:1098355011 .539867@athnrd0 2...
John Harrison wrote:
Just because you disagree with my opinions doesn't mean I was trolling.

One person asked how he can start learning C++ in comp.lang.c++, and
instead of providing some information on this you tell him to move to
C#, VB and Java (and 2 other idiots to Ruby).

That is trolling.


From the OP's original post
This is why I am
also interested in VB and curious about any other languages that can
be useful.


I just didn't think that C++ was the best for him, I could easily be wrong
but I was just offering my opinion. Not sure why you took it so personally.

john
Jul 22 '05 #10

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