please recommend c# and asp books

[Eps]

I am starting a new job that involves programming in c# and using ASP.net.

I have some experience with c# but have little knowledge of ASP, I would
like to get a book about each so I can get some reading done before I start.

I would describe myself as a intermediate c# programmer, can anyone
recommend books on both technologies ?,

any help appreciated.

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Eps

[Mr. Arnold]

"Eps" <ep*@mailinator .comwrote in message
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>I am starting a new job that involves programming in c# and using ASP.net.

I have some experience with c# but have little knowledge of ASP, I would
like to get a book about each so I can get some reading done before I
start.

I would describe myself as a intermediate c# programmer, can anyone
recommend books on both technologies ?,

any help appreciated.

I suggest the MSPress MCPD Training Kit, which comes with 3 books coving the
3 areas 70-536, 70-528 and 70-547.

You should forget that the kit is for the MCPD certification. Those books
give you a solid foundation in doing Web Development with the MS solutions
in both C# and VB.Net. The books will give you the missing pieces. Those
books are also good reference books.

Those books I am using now for training for the certification, of course,
but they will help me in my transition from .NET 2003 to .NET 2005 and
getting contracting jobs, which I have done one .NET 2005 contract and need
to close the gap on the expertise.

ISBN - 978-0-7356-2376-7

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

You should go to the horse's mouth MS and train yourself.

[T Driver]

On May 12, 4:29 am, Eps <e...@mailinato r.comwrote:

I am starting a new job that involves programming in c# and using ASP.net.

I have some experience with c# but have little knowledge of ASP, I would
like to get a book about each so I can get some reading done before I start.

I would describe myself as a intermediate c# programmer, can anyone
recommend books on both technologies ?,

O'Reilly Programming C# (Jesse Liberty) and
Programming ASP.NET (Jesse Liberty)

I've Jesse Liberty's writing to be clear and understandable and easy
to learn from.

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T Driver wrote:

On May 12, 4:29 am, Eps <e...@mailinato r.comwrote:

>I am starting a new job that involves programming in c# and using ASP.net.

I have some experience with c# but have little knowledge of ASP, I would
like to get a book about each so I can get some reading done before I start.

I would describe myself as a intermediate c# programmer, can anyone
recommend books on both technologies ?,

O'Reilly Programming C# (Jesse Liberty) and
Programming ASP.NET (Jesse Liberty)

I've Jesse Liberty's writing to be clear and understandable and easy
to learn from.

That book for someone with experience in C# ????

Arne

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=]

Eps wrote:

I am starting a new job that involves programming in c# and using ASP.net.

I have some experience with c# but have little knowledge of ASP, I would
like to get a book about each so I can get some reading done before I
start.

I would describe myself as a intermediate c# programmer, can anyone
recommend books on both technologies ?,

If you are OK with C#, then I would recommend to go directly to a
ASP.NET book.

And not a beginners book.

Something like "Profession al ASP.NET 2.0" from Wrox.

Arne

[Jesse Liberty]

I have some experience with c# but have little knowledge of ASP, I would

like to get a book about each so I can get some reading done before I
start.

I would describe myself as a intermediate c# programmer, can anyone
recommend books on both technologies ?,

I notice that someone recommended my Programming C# book (thanks!) and while
it may be a good review for you, you'll want to take a look at it first; if
you are an intermediate C# programmer, you may not need it. You may find
that a Nutshell book (or even the online docs) will be plenty.

For ASP.NET, you may want to take a look at my ASP.NET book, but the truth
is that you want to learn ASP.NET and AJAX together, in an integrated text,
and few (none?) exist yet. I have a new book coming this summer (but who can
wait?) - Learning ASP.NET with AJAX, but I suspect you are not its target
audience. The APress book (Pro ASP.NET 2.0 in C# 2005) is excellent, but
also doesn't cover AJAX.

[Watch out for AJAX books that emphasize Javascript and DOM manipulation;
while these are very important topics, if you are learning ASP.NET they'll
start you in the wrong place; it is as if you want to learn to drive and
they start you off by explaining how a clutch works; good information to
know, but most cars have automatic transmissions and you can drive for quite
a while without that info. Here's a link to my rant on this topic:
http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/...ith-atlas.html
and here's one on the three ways to face AJAX once you are an ASP.NET
programmer:
http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/...pnet-ajax.html
- you can find more on my web site: http://www.jliberty.com ]

Another approach would be to start with a straight ASP.NET book written in
C# (there are a few: mine, the Apress book, the Fritz Onion Book and quite a
few others) and then go on to learn AJAX through articles or through a
dedicated book depending on how much you want to know.

Best of luck.

Jesse Liberty
Liberty Associates, Inc.

[Eps]

Jesse Liberty wrote:

>I have some experience with c# but have little knowledge of ASP, I would
like to get a book about each so I can get some reading done before I
start.

I would describe myself as a intermediate c# programmer, can anyone
recommend books on both technologies ?,

I notice that someone recommended my Programming C# book (thanks!) and while
it may be a good review for you, you'll want to take a look at it first; if
you are an intermediate C# programmer, you may not need it. You may find
that a Nutshell book (or even the online docs) will be plenty.

Thanks for the replies people.

I describe myself as a intermediate, but I have not done any c# for
while, a book that starts from first principles may not be out of place.

I take on board Mr. Arnold's suggestion that I look into the MS training
kit, however at a £100 for stuff that I suspect is basically the same as
the online documentation I think I will pass.

I guess what I was hoping for is for someone to recommend a good all
round book that is easy to learn from but also useful as a reference
when you are on the job.

I think I am going to get the WROX books, the professional c# one and
the ASP one. Although I have not been fully briefed on the project I
will be working on I think they are closest to what I need.

To be honest I had not really thought about AJAX, I think there is
potential for highly dynamic content on this project but I will wait and
see exactly how much.

Thanks

--
Eps

[Michael Nemtsev]

Hello Eps,

As what relates to ASP, Dino Esposito's books are awesome

Programming Microsoft ASP.NET 2.0 Core Reference
http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Mi...9005854&sr=8-2

Programming Microsoft ASP.NET 2.0 Applications: Advanced Topics
http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Mi...9005854&sr=8-1

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EI am starting a new job that involves programming in c# and using
EASP.net.
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EI have some experience with c# but have little knowledge of ASP, I
Ewould like to get a book about each so I can get some reading done
Ebefore I start.
E>
EI would describe myself as a intermediate c# programmer, can anyone
Erecommend books on both technologies ?,
E>
Eany help appreciated.
E>

[Mr. Arnold]

I take on board Mr. Arnold's suggestion that I look into the MS training

kit, however at a £100 for stuff that I suspect is basically the same as
the online documentation I think I will pass.

I guess what I was hoping for is for someone to recommend a good all round
book that is easy to learn from but also useful as a reference when you
are on the job.

I am telling you right know the MSpress books is where you need to go.

Back in 2004, when I worked for a multi billion dollar company that went
..NET, they flew in a .NET guru from India to train the programmers .Net,
which happened 8 hours a day for 4 weeks.

He taught everything C# for ASP.NET, Windows Desktop, XML Web services,
Ado.net, Sever Components and .Net Remoting.

Everything he taught and talked about was in the MCAD/MCSD Self-Paced
Training Kit for .Net 2003 books, all of it. I showed him the books. He
indicated that they were very good books.

He also indicated at the time that I needed two other books to supplement
what I already had. I needed a good book on ADO.NET, a good book on C#, and
a good book on .NET Remoting.

But where it all came together as to where I could build enterprise
solutions was when I got the these books for C# and VB.NET 2003, which there
are books for 2005.

http://www.lhotka.net/Article.aspx?i...b-e0059cc82ee7

As a beginner or mid-level, if you want to know OOp programming both ASP and
Windows Desktop using a Web server, then download the CSLA Framework and the
project, read the book and put the framework and the project together. Where
ASP.Net developers fall short is they don't know how to put the backend
together, properly.

[T Driver]

On May 12, 9:01 am, Arne Vajhøj <a...@vajhoej.d kwrote:

T Driver wrote:

On May 12, 4:29 am, Eps <e...@mailinato r.comwrote:

I am starting a new job that involves programming in c# and using ASP.net.

I have some experience with c# but have little knowledge of ASP, I would
like to get a book about each so I can get some reading done before I start.

I would describe myself as a intermediate c# programmer, can anyone
recommend books on both technologies ?,

O'Reilly Programming C# (Jesse Liberty) and
Programming ASP.NET (Jesse Liberty)

I've Jesse Liberty's writing to be clear and understandable and easy
to learn from.

That book for someone with experience in C# ????

Arne

I never programmed C# before I picked these books up. I typically
program scientific algorithms in Java and C# is very similar to java,
so that may have helped.
I have the WROX Professional C# book as well and to me it seems to be
all over the place - there's not one consistent style of writing or
examples. One chapter may cover the topic in depth, and another may
skim over what I thought to be essential.
The best way I found for learning which book will work, is to pick a
specific topic like how to create, initialize and access arrays for
example, then go to your local bookstore and compare this topic over
several books and see who presents it best. The one you like you'll
probably learn best from. Everyone will have their favorite.
Hope this helps,
Ted