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Team Foundation Server not on Team Suite DVD?

Joe
Based on what it says in the subscribers downloads for Team Suite I would
think it would be there. Can it be downloaded separately or is it just the
Workgroups one?
Visual Studio Team System consists of:

a.. Visual Studio Team Foundation Server, an extensible team collaboration
server that enables all members of the extended IT team to effortlessly
manage and track the progress and health of projects
b.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Architects, visual designers
that enable architects, operations managers, and developers to design
service-oriented solutions that can be validated against their operational
environments
c.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers, advanced
development tools that enable teams to build reliable, mission-critical
services and applications
d.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers, advanced load testing
tools that enable teams to verify the performance of applications prior to
deployment
e.. Visual Studio Team Suite, bundle of Visual Studio Team Edition for
Software Architects, Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers, and
Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers
f.. Proven process guidance, prescriptive architectural guidance, and
solution accelerators that assist organizations in improving the
predictability and reliability of delivering mission-critical solutions
-Joe
Aug 24 '06 #1
10 1986
Team Suite itself is only the three flavors of VS Team Edition
(architects/developers/testers). Team Studio is the all-encompasing product
brand of all the components. Team Foundation Server is a seperate product
though the workgroup edition is, I believe, part of each of the team edition
packages, at least it is with the appropriate MSDN subscription as
illustrated at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...iptions/chart/

Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

"Joe" <jb*******@noem ail.noemailwrot e in message
news:ON******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP06.phx.gbl...
Based on what it says in the subscribers downloads for Team Suite I would
think it would be there. Can it be downloaded separately or is it just the
Workgroups one?
Visual Studio Team System consists of:

a.. Visual Studio Team Foundation Server, an extensible team
collaboration server that enables all members of the extended IT team to
effortlessly manage and track the progress and health of projects
b.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Architects, visual designers
that enable architects, operations managers, and developers to design
service-oriented solutions that can be validated against their operational
environments
c.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers, advanced
development tools that enable teams to build reliable, mission-critical
services and applications
d.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers, advanced load
testing tools that enable teams to verify the performance of applications
prior to deployment
e.. Visual Studio Team Suite, bundle of Visual Studio Team Edition for
Software Architects, Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers,
and Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers
f.. Proven process guidance, prescriptive architectural guidance, and
solution accelerators that assist organizations in improving the
predictability and reliability of delivering mission-critical solutions
-Joe

Aug 24 '06 #2
Joe
I have Visual Studio Team Suite with MSDN Premium. This doesn't explain why
it says in the description on the download page that the Team Suite includes
Team Foundation Server. I thought the Team Suite was the entire Team Studio.

"Mark Fitzpatrick" <ma******@fitzm e.comwrote in message
news:uL******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P06.phx.gbl...
Team Suite itself is only the three flavors of VS Team Edition
(architects/developers/testers). Team Studio is the all-encompasing
product brand of all the components. Team Foundation Server is a seperate
product though the workgroup edition is, I believe, part of each of the
team edition packages, at least it is with the appropriate MSDN
subscription as illustrated at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...iptions/chart/

Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

"Joe" <jb*******@noem ail.noemailwrot e in message
news:ON******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP06.phx.gbl...
>Based on what it says in the subscribers downloads for Team Suite I would
think it would be there. Can it be downloaded separately or is it just
the Workgroups one?
Visual Studio Team System consists of:

a.. Visual Studio Team Foundation Server, an extensible team
collaboratio n server that enables all members of the extended IT team to
effortlessly manage and track the progress and health of projects
b.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Architects, visual designers
that enable architects, operations managers, and developers to design
service-oriented solutions that can be validated against their
operational environments
c.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers, advanced
development tools that enable teams to build reliable, mission-critical
services and applications
d.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers, advanced load
testing tools that enable teams to verify the performance of applications
prior to deployment
e.. Visual Studio Team Suite, bundle of Visual Studio Team Edition for
Software Architects, Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers,
and Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers
f.. Proven process guidance, prescriptive architectural guidance, and
solution accelerators that assist organizations in improving the
predictabili ty and reliability of delivering mission-critical solutions
-Joe


Aug 25 '06 #3
Hi Joe,

There might be some misunderstandin g here. The webpage says the Team System
is consists of Team Foundation Server and Team Suite. Both of them are
parts of the whole Team System. Team Suite is the client which has all the
functions of TA, TD and TT. While Team Foundation Server(TFS) is the server
which enables the team members' collaboration.

You have to download TFS seperately with your MSDN subscription.

Anything unclear, please feel free to let me know.

Kevin Yu
Microsoft Online Community Support

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Aug 25 '06 #4
Something else to keep in mind, I don't think Team Foundation Server wasn't
released until very recently. I know it wasn't released at launch as it was
still in beta at the time so it's probably located seperately, though the
workgroup edition should be available. It could be that the statement is
just marketing speak. For example, Visual Studio comes with MSDN Library,
but it's a completely seperate CD in most cases.

Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"Joe" <jb*******@noem ail.noemailwrot e in message
news:ef******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...
>I have Visual Studio Team Suite with MSDN Premium. This doesn't explain why
it says in the description on the download page that the Team Suite
includes Team Foundation Server. I thought the Team Suite was the entire
Team Studio.

"Mark Fitzpatrick" <ma******@fitzm e.comwrote in message
news:uL******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P06.phx.gbl...
>Team Suite itself is only the three flavors of VS Team Edition
(architects/developers/testers). Team Studio is the all-encompasing
product brand of all the components. Team Foundation Server is a seperate
product though the workgroup edition is, I believe, part of each of the
team edition packages, at least it is with the appropriate MSDN
subscription as illustrated at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...iptions/chart/

Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

"Joe" <jb*******@noem ail.noemailwrot e in message
news:ON******* *******@TK2MSFT NGP06.phx.gbl.. .
>>Based on what it says in the subscribers downloads for Team Suite I
would think it would be there. Can it be downloaded separately or is it
just the Workgroups one?
Visual Studio Team System consists of:

a.. Visual Studio Team Foundation Server, an extensible team
collaborati on server that enables all members of the extended IT team to
effortlessl y manage and track the progress and health of projects
b.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Architects, visual
designers that enable architects, operations managers, and developers to
design service-oriented solutions that can be validated against their
operational environments
c.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers, advanced
development tools that enable teams to build reliable, mission-critical
services and applications
d.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers, advanced load
testing tools that enable teams to verify the performance of
application s prior to deployment
e.. Visual Studio Team Suite, bundle of Visual Studio Team Edition for
Software Architects, Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers,
and Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers
f.. Proven process guidance, prescriptive architectural guidance, and
solution accelerators that assist organizations in improving the
predictabilit y and reliability of delivering mission-critical solutions
-Joe



Aug 25 '06 #5
Joe
Kevin,

The problem is I don't see anywhere to download the server. I can download
the trial version and the workgroups version but not the full version.

-Joe

"Kevin Yu [MSFT]" <v-****@online.mic rosoft.comwrote in message
news:0%******** *********@TK2MS FTNGXA01.phx.gb l...
Hi Joe,

There might be some misunderstandin g here. The webpage says the Team
System
is consists of Team Foundation Server and Team Suite. Both of them are
parts of the whole Team System. Team Suite is the client which has all the
functions of TA, TD and TT. While Team Foundation Server(TFS) is the
server
which enables the team members' collaboration.

You have to download TFS seperately with your MSDN subscription.

Anything unclear, please feel free to let me know.

Kevin Yu
Microsoft Online Community Support

=============== =============== =============== =====
Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...ult.aspx#notif
ications.
Note: The MSDN Managed Newsgroup support offering is for non-urgent issues
where an initial response from the community or a Microsoft Support
Engineer within 1 business day is acceptable. Please note that each follow
up response may take approximately 2 business days as the support
professional working with you may need further investigation to reach the
most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations
that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions or complex
project analysis and dump analysis issues. Issues of this nature are best
handled working with a dedicated Microsoft Support Engineer by contacting
Microsoft Customer Support Services (CSS) at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...t/default.aspx.
=============== =============== =============== =====

(This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
rights.)

Aug 25 '06 #6
Hi Joe,

As far as I know, there is no full version for download. Currently, only
trial version(for domain users) and workgroup version(for workgroup users)
are available. If you need to get a full version, please contact our
customer service for how to purchase license for each client.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/howtobuy/

Kevin Yu
Microsoft Online Community Support
=============== =============== =============== =====

(This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
rights.)

Aug 25 '06 #7
"Kevin Yu [MSFT]" <v-****@online.mic rosoft.comwrote in message
news:in******** *****@TK2MSFTNG XA01.phx.gbl...
Hi Joe,

As far as I know, there is no full version for download. Currently, only
trial version(for domain users) and workgroup version(for workgroup users)
are available. If you need to get a full version, please contact our
customer service for how to purchase license for each client.
I believe that this is incorrect. The Workgroup version of Team Foundation
Server *will* work in a domain. It's limited to 5 users, if you have more
than 5 users you have to buy the full version of the server. The full
version isn't downloadable from the MSDN library because there isn't an MSDN
product that includes the full version.
Aug 26 '06 #8
Hi Joe,

I'd like to know if this issue has been resolved yet. Is there anything
that I can help. I'm still monitoring on it. If you have any questions,
please feel free to post them in the community.

Kevin Yu
Microsoft Online Community Support
=============== =============== =============== =====

(This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
rights.)

Aug 31 '06 #9
Quick question : can team members access TFS via the Internet?

"Joe" wrote:
Based on what it says in the subscribers downloads for Team Suite I would
think it would be there. Can it be downloaded separately or is it just the
Workgroups one?
Visual Studio Team System consists of:

a.. Visual Studio Team Foundation Server, an extensible team collaboration
server that enables all members of the extended IT team to effortlessly
manage and track the progress and health of projects
b.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Architects, visual designers
that enable architects, operations managers, and developers to design
service-oriented solutions that can be validated against their operational
environments
c.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers, advanced
development tools that enable teams to build reliable, mission-critical
services and applications
d.. Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers, advanced load testing
tools that enable teams to verify the performance of applications prior to
deployment
e.. Visual Studio Team Suite, bundle of Visual Studio Team Edition for
Software Architects, Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers, and
Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers
f.. Proven process guidance, prescriptive architectural guidance, and
solution accelerators that assist organizations in improving the
predictability and reliability of delivering mission-critical solutions
-Joe
Sep 1 '06 #10

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