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I don't know if I should even start this topic but here goes.
I'm an ex vb6 developer, now developing in C#.
The reason why I started developing in C# is because the company that I
worked for at the time standarised on C#.

Many of my friends working in previous companies that I worked for are
starting to move back to VB.Net. When I asked them why, it seems that
the next release of VB.Net seems very promising and they kinda see
themselves in the same position I'm in. It seems that at the time when
..Net was first released many companies basically forced developers to
work in C# because as in my case the company they worked for
standarised on C#, why these companies did this is beyond me because
most of their developers were vb developers, I think it's because it
was marketed that C# was the main language to use on the .Net
Framework.

Now many companies as well as management in these companies are
starting to realise that vb.net is not that different from c# and are
starting to give their developers a choice and thus obviously the move
back to vb.

The reason why I'm posting this topic here is because I'm wondering how
many developers using c# are ex vb developers and would actually like
to develop in vb.net. I have actually convinced my superiors to use
vb.net as another language choice and they have agreed.

We have just started a new project in vb.net about 3 mths ago and I
must say that it's still a damn fun language to work in, I'm actually
enjoying my work again. Productivity couldn't be higher as other c# (ex
vb6) developers in my department have also wanted to go back.

Wondering how many of you out there would like to move back to the
lighter side of life?

Nov 17 '05 #1
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"Kevin" <ke***@inatrice .co.za> wrote in message
news:11******** *************@f 14g2000cwb.goog legroups.com...
I don't know if I should even start this topic but here goes.
I'm an ex vb6 developer, now developing in C#.
The reason why I started developing in C# is because the company that I
worked for at the time standarised on C#.

Many of my friends working in previous companies that I worked for are
starting to move back to VB.Net. When I asked them why, it seems that
the next release of VB.Net seems very promising and they kinda see
themselves in the same position I'm in. It seems that at the time when
.Net was first released many companies basically forced developers to
work in C# because as in my case the company they worked for
standarised on C#, why these companies did this is beyond me because
most of their developers were vb developers, I think it's because it
was marketed that C# was the main language to use on the .Net
Framework.

Now many companies as well as management in these companies are
starting to realise that vb.net is not that different from c# and are
starting to give their developers a choice and thus obviously the move
back to vb.

The reason why I'm posting this topic here is because I'm wondering how
many developers using c# are ex vb developers and would actually like
to develop in vb.net. I have actually convinced my superiors to use
vb.net as another language choice and they have agreed.

We have just started a new project in vb.net about 3 mths ago and I
must say that it's still a damn fun language to work in, I'm actually
enjoying my work again. Productivity couldn't be higher as other c# (ex
vb6) developers in my department have also wanted to go back.

Wondering how many of you out there would like to move back to the
lighter side of life?


Well, I enjoy C# more than I do VB.Net. I originally started development in
QBasic then moved to C/C++ on *nix. From there I learned Visual Basic and
moved on to the .Net platform and learned VB.Net and C#. I just like C#,
the syntax is less wordy (no Then's or End If's), which means less typing...
and I really like the way it looks (looks and feels like C/C++).

Mythran

Nov 17 '05 #2
> Well, I enjoy C# more than I do VB.Net. I originally started development in
QBasic then moved to C/C++ on *nix. From there I learned Visual Basic and
moved on to the .Net platform and learned VB.Net and C#. I just like C#,
the syntax is less wordy (no Then's or End If's), which means less typing...
and I really like the way it looks (looks and feels like C/C++).

Mythran

Wow you've been back and forth, QBasic -> C/C++ -> Visual Basic -> C#.

I disagree with your 'less typing' statement in some respect as Then's,
End If's and even End Sub End Function are implemented for you as you
enter to the next line. Even Catch and Finally is automatically coded
for you as you hit enter after a Try statement.

I do agree with your statement about look and feel, this is exactly the
point I'm trying to make. I think look and feel is important as it, in
my mind, makes you a more productive developer because you feel
comfortable with the syntax.

But I can't help wondering if ex vb6 developers now working in C# would
be more productive going back to vb.net for this exact same reason. I
know I am.

Nov 17 '05 #3
>. I just like C#,
the syntax is less wordy (no Then's or End If's), which >means less typing...
Actually, the IDE 'types' all this anyhow, and
does a real good job of aligning it too.
So this is not really an issue.
and I really like the way it looks (looks and feels like C/C++).

May look like C/C++, but it's really quite different.
Type safety in C#, is one very much appreciated
difference.

Roger
Nov 17 '05 #4
Couldn't type safety be implemented by turning Option Strict On.

Nov 17 '05 #5
Kevin
Couldn't type safety be implemented by turning Option Strict On.

Yes, but that's VB.

I was comparing type safety in C/C++, to C#

Good day,
Roger
Nov 17 '05 #6

Kevin wrote:

The reason why I'm posting this topic here is because I'm wondering how
many developers using c# are ex vb developers and would actually like
to develop in vb.net.


I've developed in VB, VB.net, C, C shell, and various other languages,
but my main base is C and C-like languages (php, perl, etc).

Learning .net, I get to play with both VB.net and C#.net, and I have to
say, I sure hope it remains a viable option, because I never much liked
VB and it hasn't changed much. LOL

IMO, people who learned VB before C prefer VB.net and people who
learned C before VB prefer C#.
I don't think it really comes down to any more than that, regardless of
what they attempt to justify it with. But feel free to correct me. :)

(whoever came up with "on error resume next" needs to die a slow and
painful death caused by ingrown toenails...)

Nov 17 '05 #7
Having used various languages over the years (like most programmers) such as
Cobol, VB6, Perl, KSH, C, C++ and C#, etc. I just prefer c# over them all,
and its not just one or two things you can point to. But that is me.
Others will find VB.Net more to their taste and that is great. Pick the one
you like and use that.

--
William Stacey [MVP]

"Kevin" <ke***@inatrice .co.za> wrote in message
news:11******** *************@f 14g2000cwb.goog legroups.com...
I don't know if I should even start this topic but here goes.
I'm an ex vb6 developer, now developing in C#.
The reason why I started developing in C# is because the company that I
worked for at the time standarised on C#.

Many of my friends working in previous companies that I worked for are
starting to move back to VB.Net. When I asked them why, it seems that
the next release of VB.Net seems very promising and they kinda see
themselves in the same position I'm in. It seems that at the time when
.Net was first released many companies basically forced developers to
work in C# because as in my case the company they worked for
standarised on C#, why these companies did this is beyond me because
most of their developers were vb developers, I think it's because it
was marketed that C# was the main language to use on the .Net
Framework.

Now many companies as well as management in these companies are
starting to realise that vb.net is not that different from c# and are
starting to give their developers a choice and thus obviously the move
back to vb.

The reason why I'm posting this topic here is because I'm wondering how
many developers using c# are ex vb developers and would actually like
to develop in vb.net. I have actually convinced my superiors to use
vb.net as another language choice and they have agreed.

We have just started a new project in vb.net about 3 mths ago and I
must say that it's still a damn fun language to work in, I'm actually
enjoying my work again. Productivity couldn't be higher as other c# (ex
vb6) developers in my department have also wanted to go back.

Wondering how many of you out there would like to move back to the
lighter side of life?

Nov 17 '05 #8
It's all a matter of what you want to do with your life.
Now many companies as well as management in these companies are
starting to realise that vb.net is not that different from c# and are
starting to give their developers a choice and thus obviously the move
back to vb.
You put your finger on it right there - "not that different." In fact, C#
and VB.Net ARE different, in terms of what you can do with them. You can't
do unmanaged code in VB.Net, and certain types of control are difficult to
manage with VB.Net. But if you want to develop at a high level, and don't
like or need to get down to the nitty-gritty, and you don't have much
ambition, VB.Net is probably a good language for you.

There are all kinds of programmers in the world. Some of us work at a low
level, and some of us work at a high level. And everywhere in-between. At a
high level, it doesn't matter much. But my job, for example, requires some
fairly low-level stuff, and I like it that way. I'm something of a power
freak when it comes to programming. So, I would not think about going to
VB.Net. But for many people, programming is just a job. They do it for the
money. And for them, the easiest way is the best way.

There was a serious move to C# among VB.Net programmers, and it ended up
muddying the water a bit in terms of hiring. I think anyone wanting to move
back to VB.Net is probably thinking along some very helpful lines for
everyone involved.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Big things are made up of
lots of little things.

"Kevin" <ke***@inatrice .co.za> wrote in message
news:11******** *************@f 14g2000cwb.goog legroups.com...I don't know if I should even start this topic but here goes.
I'm an ex vb6 developer, now developing in C#.
The reason why I started developing in C# is because the company that I
worked for at the time standarised on C#.

Many of my friends working in previous companies that I worked for are
starting to move back to VB.Net. When I asked them why, it seems that
the next release of VB.Net seems very promising and they kinda see
themselves in the same position I'm in. It seems that at the time when
.Net was first released many companies basically forced developers to
work in C# because as in my case the company they worked for
standarised on C#, why these companies did this is beyond me because
most of their developers were vb developers, I think it's because it
was marketed that C# was the main language to use on the .Net
Framework.

Now many companies as well as management in these companies are
starting to realise that vb.net is not that different from c# and are
starting to give their developers a choice and thus obviously the move
back to vb.

The reason why I'm posting this topic here is because I'm wondering how
many developers using c# are ex vb developers and would actually like
to develop in vb.net. I have actually convinced my superiors to use
vb.net as another language choice and they have agreed.

We have just started a new project in vb.net about 3 mths ago and I
must say that it's still a damn fun language to work in, I'm actually
enjoying my work again. Productivity couldn't be higher as other c# (ex
vb6) developers in my department have also wanted to go back.

Wondering how many of you out there would like to move back to the
lighter side of life?

Nov 17 '05 #9
There are more programmers in the world who cannot afford Visual Studio than
those that can. Command line copiles with notepad as the editor of choice is
surprisingly popular.

C# is a more type-efficient language.

--
Bob Powell [MVP]
Visual C#, System.Drawing

Ramuseco Limited .NET consulting
http://www.ramuseco.com

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http://www.bobpowell.net/tipstricks.htm

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http://www.bobpowell.net/faqmain.htm

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"Kevin" <ke***@inatrice .co.za> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ g44g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .
Well, I enjoy C# more than I do VB.Net. I originally started development
in
QBasic then moved to C/C++ on *nix. From there I learned Visual Basic
and
moved on to the .Net platform and learned VB.Net and C#. I just like C#,
the syntax is less wordy (no Then's or End If's), which means less
typing...
and I really like the way it looks (looks and feels like C/C++).

Mythran

Wow you've been back and forth, QBasic -> C/C++ -> Visual Basic -> C#.

I disagree with your 'less typing' statement in some respect as Then's,
End If's and even End Sub End Function are implemented for you as you
enter to the next line. Even Catch and Finally is automatically coded
for you as you hit enter after a Try statement.

I do agree with your statement about look and feel, this is exactly the
point I'm trying to make. I think look and feel is important as it, in
my mind, makes you a more productive developer because you feel
comfortable with the syntax.

But I can't help wondering if ex vb6 developers now working in C# would
be more productive going back to vb.net for this exact same reason. I
know I am.

Nov 17 '05 #10

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