Hello:
Always wanted to do this -- but never knew how...
The goal is to write software that goes out to clients -- but I want to be able to auto-update them
when there is a later release available at the website....
Any articles that would be a good place to start?
One of the things I don't understand is how a program can stop itself to replace itself...
I have seen several articles by now -- that I think are in the right direction -- but frankly, I'm
just getting myself confused as to which one is the right type of technology to look at.
* BITS seems to be a possible way to go investigate -- but not on all platforms (still have lots of
customers on win98 to my chagrin).
* Remote dll paths in the assembly sounds also interesting. But does that use the remote path to the
dll to cache a copy and use the cache copy, or does it actually update/replace the local one? And
doesn't that cause it to connect to the server every time the dll's are loaded? In other words, 1000
clients = 1000 * loadassembly = 1000 connections to my server. And what happens if the server is
down? Would it hang their application for 30 seconds?
As you can see, I don't know what I am talking about -- hence this post out for help :-)
6  5850 
Google: "Background Intelligent Transfer Service API"
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Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software Development
NET cs*********@REM OVETHISTEXTmetr omilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
"S.Sigal" <as*******@xa ct-solutions.remov ethis.com> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. .. Hello:
Always wanted to do this -- but never knew how...
The goal is to write software that goes out to clients -- but I want to be
able to auto-update them when there is a later release available at the website....
Any articles that would be a good place to start?
One of the things I don't understand is how a program can stop itself to
replace itself...
I have seen several articles by now -- that I think are in the right
direction -- but frankly, I'm just getting myself confused as to which one is the right type of
technology to look at.
* BITS seems to be a possible way to go investigate -- but not on all
platforms (still have lots of customers on win98 to my chagrin).
* Remote dll paths in the assembly sounds also interesting. But does that
use the remote path to the dll to cache a copy and use the cache copy, or does it actually
update/replace the local one? And doesn't that cause it to connect to the server every time the dll's are
loaded? In other words, 1000 clients = 1000 * loadassembly = 1000 connections to my server. And what
happens if the server is down? Would it hang their application for 30 seconds?
As you can see, I don't know what I am talking about -- hence this post
out for help :-)
Thank you Clinton.
Did come across this and held back going this direction because it is only XP -- not win98.
How is Windows AutoUpdating Win98 clients? Not BITS, since XP only, right?
"clintonG" <cs*********@RE MOVETHISTEXTmet romilwaukee.com > wrote in message
news:ep******** ******@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl... Google: "Background Intelligent Transfer Service API"
--
<%= Clinton Gallagher, "Twice the Results -- Half the Cost"
Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software Development
NET cs*********@REM OVETHISTEXTmetr omilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
"S.Sigal" <as*******@xa ct-solutions.remov ethis.com> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. .. Hello:
Always wanted to do this -- but never knew how...
The goal is to write software that goes out to clients -- but I want to be
able to auto-update them when there is a later release available at the website....
Any articles that would be a good place to start?
One of the things I don't understand is how a program can stop itself to
replace itself...
I have seen several articles by now -- that I think are in the right
direction -- but frankly, I'm just getting myself confused as to which one is the right type of
technology to look at.
* BITS seems to be a possible way to go investigate -- but not on all
platforms (still have lots of customers on win98 to my chagrin).
* Remote dll paths in the assembly sounds also interesting. But does that
use the remote path to the dll to cache a copy and use the cache copy, or does it actually
update/replace the local one? And doesn't that cause it to connect to the server every time the dll's are
loaded? In other words, 1000 clients = 1000 * loadassembly = 1000 connections to my server. And what
happens if the server is down? Would it hang their application for 30 seconds?
As you can see, I don't know what I am talking about -- hence this post
out for help :-)
I'd have to assume so as Microsoft has tried to orphan Win98.
--
<%= Clinton Gallagher, "Twice the Results -- Half the Cost"
Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software Development
NET cs*********@REM OVETHISTEXTmetr omilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
"S.Sigal" <as*******@xa ct-solutions.remov ethis.com> wrote in message
news:ef******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl... Thank you Clinton.
Did come across this and held back going this direction because it is only
XP -- not win98. How is Windows AutoUpdating Win98 clients? Not BITS, since XP only, right?
"clintonG" <cs*********@RE MOVETHISTEXTmet romilwaukee.com > wrote in message
news:ep******** ******@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl... Google: "Background Intelligent Transfer Service API"
--
<%= Clinton Gallagher, "Twice the Results -- Half the Cost"
Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software Development
NET cs*********@REM OVETHISTEXTmetr omilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
"S.Sigal" <as*******@xa ct-solutions.remov ethis.com> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. .. Hello:
Always wanted to do this -- but never knew how...
The goal is to write software that goes out to clients -- but I want
to be able to auto-update them when there is a later release available at the website....
Any articles that would be a good place to start?
One of the things I don't understand is how a program can stop itself
to replace itself...
I have seen several articles by now -- that I think are in the right
direction -- but frankly, I'm just getting myself confused as to which one is the right type of
technology to look at.
* BITS seems to be a possible way to go investigate -- but not on all
platforms (still have lots of customers on win98 to my chagrin).
* Remote dll paths in the assembly sounds also interesting. But does
that use the remote path to the dll to cache a copy and use the cache copy, or does it actually
update/replace the local one? And doesn't that cause it to connect to the server every time the dll's
are loaded? In other words, 1000 clients = 1000 * loadassembly = 1000 connections to my server. And
what happens if the server is down? Would it hang their application for 30 seconds?
As you can see, I don't know what I am talking about -- hence this
post out for help :-)
Ok. I'm going to have to mull over that article as it's just an itsy bitsy level out of my reach
coding wise...so it will take time to ponder/figure out.
Thanks for your help!
How did they do it before BITS came out? Any links to old methods? Socket? Batch file to shut down
exe/service, replace, restart?
Thanks!
"clintonG" <cs*********@RE MOVETHISTEXTmet romilwaukee.com > wrote in message
news:e%******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. .. I'd have to assume so as Microsoft has tried to orphan Win98.
--
<%= Clinton Gallagher, "Twice the Results -- Half the Cost"
Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software Development
NET cs*********@REM OVETHISTEXTmetr omilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
"S.Sigal" <as*******@xa ct-solutions.remov ethis.com> wrote in message
news:ef******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl... Thank you Clinton.
Did come across this and held back going this direction because it is only
XP -- not win98. How is Windows AutoUpdating Win98 clients? Not BITS, since XP only, right?
"clintonG" <cs*********@RE MOVETHISTEXTmet romilwaukee.com > wrote in message
news:ep******** ******@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl... Google: "Background Intelligent Transfer Service API"
--
<%= Clinton Gallagher, "Twice the Results -- Half the Cost"
Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software Development
NET cs*********@REM OVETHISTEXTmetr omilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
"S.Sigal" <as*******@xa ct-solutions.remov ethis.com> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..
> Hello:
> Always wanted to do this -- but never knew how...
>
> The goal is to write software that goes out to clients -- but I want to be able to auto-update them
> when there is a later release available at the website....
> Any articles that would be a good place to start?
>
> One of the things I don't understand is how a program can stop itself to replace itself...
>
>
>
> I have seen several articles by now -- that I think are in the right
direction -- but frankly, I'm
> just getting myself confused as to which one is the right type of
technology to look at.
>
> * BITS seems to be a possible way to go investigate -- but not on all
platforms (still have lots of
> customers on win98 to my chagrin).
>
> * Remote dll paths in the assembly sounds also interesting. But does that use the remote path to the
> dll to cache a copy and use the cache copy, or does it actually
update/replace the local one? And
> doesn't that cause it to connect to the server every time the dll's are loaded? In other words, 1000
> clients = 1000 * loadassembly = 1000 connections to my server. And what happens if the server is
> down? Would it hang their application for 30 seconds?
>
>
> As you can see, I don't know what I am talking about -- hence this post out for help :-)
>
>
>
I have no idea how it was done before BITS. You should also
Google: "Wise Installer" as I recall the vendor may have some
features that help update installed applications.
--
<%= Clinton Gallagher, "Twice the Results -- Half the Cost"
Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software Development
NET cs*********@REM OVETHISTEXTmetr omilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
"S.Sigal" <as*******@xa ct-solutions.remov ethis.com> wrote in message
news:ez******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P10.phx.gbl... Ok. I'm going to have to mull over that article as it's just an itsy bitsy
level out of my reach coding wise...so it will take time to ponder/figure out.
Thanks for your help!
How did they do it before BITS came out? Any links to old methods? Socket?
Batch file to shut down exe/service, replace, restart?
Thanks!
"clintonG" <cs*********@RE MOVETHISTEXTmet romilwaukee.com > wrote in message
news:e%******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. .. I'd have to assume so as Microsoft has tried to orphan Win98.
--
<%= Clinton Gallagher, "Twice the Results -- Half the Cost"
Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software Development
NET cs*********@REM OVETHISTEXTmetr omilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
"S.Sigal" <as*******@xa ct-solutions.remov ethis.com> wrote in message
news:ef******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl... Thank you Clinton.
Did come across this and held back going this direction because it is
only XP -- not win98. How is Windows AutoUpdating Win98 clients? Not BITS, since XP only,
right?
"clintonG" <cs*********@RE MOVETHISTEXTmet romilwaukee.com > wrote in
message news:ep******** ******@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
> Google: "Background Intelligent Transfer Service API"
>
> --
> <%= Clinton Gallagher, "Twice the Results -- Half the Cost"
> Architectural & e-Business Consulting -- Software
Development > NET cs*********@REM OVETHISTEXTmetr omilwaukee.com
> URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
>
>
>
> "S.Sigal" <as*******@xa ct-solutions.remov ethis.com> wrote in message
> news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..
> > Hello:
> > Always wanted to do this -- but never knew how...
> >
> > The goal is to write software that goes out to clients -- but I
want to be > able to auto-update them
> > when there is a later release available at the website....
> > Any articles that would be a good place to start?
> >
> > One of the things I don't understand is how a program can stop
itself to > replace itself...
> >
> >
> >
> > I have seen several articles by now -- that I think are in the
right > direction -- but frankly, I'm
> > just getting myself confused as to which one is the right type of
> technology to look at.
> >
> > * BITS seems to be a possible way to go investigate -- but not on
all > platforms (still have lots of
> > customers on win98 to my chagrin).
> >
> > * Remote dll paths in the assembly sounds also interesting. But
does that > use the remote path to the
> > dll to cache a copy and use the cache copy, or does it actually
> update/replace the local one? And
> > doesn't that cause it to connect to the server every time the
dll's are > loaded? In other words, 1000
> > clients = 1000 * loadassembly = 1000 connections to my server. And
what > happens if the server is
> > down? Would it hang their application for 30 seconds?
> >
> >
> > As you can see, I don't know what I am talking about -- hence this
post > out for help :-)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
You might want to have a look at the updater application block. It's flexible
and could save you lots of coding time.
<a
href="http://msdn.microsoft. com/library/default.asp?url =/library/en-us/dnbda/html/updater.asp"
http://msdn.microsoft. com/library/default.asp?url =/library/en-us/dnbda/html/updater.asp</a>
"S.Sigal" wrote: Hello:
Always wanted to do this -- but never knew how...
The goal is to write software that goes out to clients -- but I want to be able to auto-update them
when there is a later release available at the website....
Any articles that would be a good place to start?
One of the things I don't understand is how a program can stop itself to replace itself...
I have seen several articles by now -- that I think are in the right direction -- but frankly, I'm
just getting myself confused as to which one is the right type of technology to look at.
* BITS seems to be a possible way to go investigate -- but not on all platforms (still have lots of
customers on win98 to my chagrin).
* Remote dll paths in the assembly sounds also interesting. But does that use the remote path to the
dll to cache a copy and use the cache copy, or does it actually update/replace the local one? And
doesn't that cause it to connect to the server every time the dll's are loaded? In other words, 1000
clients = 1000 * loadassembly = 1000 connections to my server. And what happens if the server is
down? Would it hang their application for 30 seconds?
As you can see, I don't know what I am talking about -- hence this post out for help :-)
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