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Why Linux and open source sucks

Open source programs in general suck pretty bad also. Here are some
loose facts regarding why projects like Linux, PHP, MYSQL, and
other open source programs suck:

- Linux is simply a clone of an operating system over 20 years
old similar to DOS (Unix). That's ALL Linux is. The kernal was taken,
decompiled, and stolen by Linus himself. That's a fact. Xerox
should have sued, but at the during the early 1991, no one was
really using Unix and Xerox had better things to do with their
recources than to sue someone steeling something what Xerox
doesnt care about. (ie: You can download lots of old games online
that were sold in stores, but these companies don't
care cause these games were in the past and don't currently make
them money so they really don't care what happens to them).

- Other open source project are MySQL, PHP, Perl, Apache, Mozilla..
These are key components of business such as web serving and database.
When Microsoft was smaller (around mid 90's), these products killed
Microsoft in performance and usablility. They were
the top choice for services and MS had crappier versions of the
same thing which no one liked or used.

- Eventually, Microsoft grew in money and power. They came out
with new OS's like Windows 2000 and then things began to change.
MS's SQL Server 2000 started beating out Oracle, IBM DB2,
and MySQL is speed and performance. People started to notice
this and began to migrate over to SQL Server 2000. Remeber that
business and the world are based off these 4 databases.

- iis 5.0 and ASP was realeased in 2000 and once again, the
benchmarks smoked competition. They *killed* Java, and beat out
PHP. An independant magazine developed identicle e-Commerce
web sites (like this) in PHP, asp, and JSP.

JSP - 17 pages per second.
PHP - 54 pages per second
asp - 80 pages per second (and with acceleated code and compression
was up to 160 pages)

Companies around that time popped up to push for Linux. One was
Red Hat Linux. This was a serious effort to make an OS to compete
with Microsoft Windows. Poeple poured millions into Red Hat stock.
Cause at that time, ALL high tech companies where hot.

Remember, Red Hat is GNU. Thus, they have to give you their
source code on each product given away or sold. In reality, their
products were being sold at future shop for profit and i assure you,
their lawyears would be coming after you if you compiled their code
and sold it for profit.

Fact is, Red Hat turned out to be a very poor, slow OS. It had many
features, but they simply didn't work (ie: their plug and play).
Star Office emerged and turned out to be a very buggy, poor,
and *extremely* slow Office suite.

By 2000+ and XP, Microsoft IIS 6.0 and .NET, Microsoft is now
killing *any* open source project in performance, reliability, and
ease of use. Oracle recently announced that you may NOT
publish benchmarks if you use their product. (that's because they
know they are now the slowest database).

Recently at a yearly hacking/sercurtiy confrence, contestants entered
and people over the week would try to hack into the
servers. One was Microsoft running IIS 6.0. There were over
80,000 hack attempts and not one person could get in. They
won. Linux based systems were hacked into instantly.

However, Red Hat. BSD, Linux does have Apache. And they also
have one very, very, important thing going for them to make them a
good choice for dB and web services: -> They are NOT Microsoft.

??? you ask?

Well, once you get to speak to network admins all day like I do,
there is a *good* reason to go the BSD, Linux route. There is
one thing that keeps these poorer, slower OS's and services alive
and used in the industry:

Viruses don't work on them.
Nov 15 '05
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Daniel,
Heh, I was wondering who would give up first.


Ok fine, you won! :-)
--
What the caterpillar calls the end,
the rest of the world calls a butterfly.
~ Lao-tzu

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zane @at@ abderaware .dot. com
Nov 15 '05 #21
"Mike" <mi*********@ho tmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:E4******** ***********@new s04.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers. com...

[lots of stupid shit]

how many do you get from micro$oft for this stupid trolling?

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Nov 15 '05 #22
>Heh, its generally not worth paying much attention to posts like this.

I know - I don't feel trolls, either - but this was just so blatantly
wrong and without any basis, it *HAD* to be countered.
I should also note, because you didn't and the OP might care, the minix
kernel was free and the subject of a book by its writer.


Andrew Tanenbaum's "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation" - a
classic.

Marc

Nov 15 '05 #23

"Marc Scheuner [MVP ADSI]" <m.********@ino va.SPAMBEGONE.c h> wrote in message
news:77******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
Heh, its generally not worth paying much attention to posts like this.
I know - I don't feel trolls, either - but this was just so blatantly
wrong and without any basis, it *HAD* to be countered.
I should also note, because you didn't and the OP might care, the minix
kernel was free and the subject of a book by its writer.


Andrew Tanenbaum's "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation" - a
classic.

Ya, thats right!...I've read(and own) the second edition, which someone else
apparently did the editing and additions to make it a second edition. I just
can't find it, LOL.
Marc

Nov 15 '05 #24
zane(_)abderawa re.com (Zane Thomas) wrote in message news:<3f******* ********@news.m icrosoft.com>.. .
But the situation on the desktop is even more serious. Even assuming a good
idea for a componentized, secure (http://blog.monstuff.com/archives/000102.html)
operating system, overcoming the stranglehold MS has on the desktop is The Major
Problem - IMO.


Your problem is you guys don't think big enough. New things are hard
to make
and mostly beyond our scope for the most part. Think big and outside
the box.
Let the gui ontop a 20 year old command prompts go and look ahead to
something
that's possible, but that we don't understand, and then begin to work
on it.

The new OS should be completely API based and have 4 microcode
embedded 'CPU's' which will not be called CPU's anymore. They will be
read only for the most part and offer the processing and storage in a
read only manner for the API's.
You can call these brains or logic blocks. (basically CPU with gigs of
NVRAM)
containing its own entitiy.

The new OS should be comprised of 4 API blocks on the system board:

Input - All input devices and interfaces and input from datasources
Output - take a guess
Messege - Holds user defined paramaeters
Process - the go between or messenger of the logic blocks

Since each logic block contains it's own API code embedded, you would
just
call apon the window api certain parameters and would get
instantanious
results. The Process block would hold the imediate info for the
window.

If you were to read from a database, the data connection API would hit
the database portion API portion of the input block.

Here's the thing, since you are utilizing a portion of the 'CPU'
directly and
the rest are left undisturbed, you can do another API simutaniously,
thus,
acheiving true mutlti-threading within the same or different block
because
you are not using a singular CPU, but rather thousands of small stand
alone
CPUs; each ccontaining it's own API. The API *is* the physical CPU. An
incoming
TCP/IP connection would be dealt this in the Input block which would
process
the connection with no lag time or performance hit.

WIth the right algorithems and hardware architecture, you could make
an array of say 16,000,000 concurent API's, each considered seperate
from one another
and each would be considered it's own thread with no performance hit.

This means that 20,000 users could connect to your server concurently,
each fetching database transactions from the within the same block,
with no stress on the OS or system performance because the API's are
completely different
from one another.

There would be no load times, reboots, little crashes, or viruses
becuase each API is read only in the embedded CPU microcode seperate
from one other. If the
fault dectecting management portions detect a faulty state, it can
flash power
to the API portion and re-power it. (But have does embedded code for a
LCD clock
on your watch fail much?)

See bigger than what you're used to.
Nov 15 '05 #25
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Mike,
The new OS should be completely API based and have 4 microcode
embedded 'CPU's' which will not be called CPU's anymore. They will be
read only for the most part and offer the processing and storage in a
read only manner for the API's.


I understand what you're saying. Although I have a different spin on a similar
concept. I've thought some about the fact that a componentized operating system
could easily support access via networking protocols - like remoting in .net but
on localhost or in-the-box (or nearby) network connections accessed via fiber.
For example.

I don't see any reason why an operating system must exist on a single
motherboard directly controled by one or more processors.
--
Abderaware
Fine Components For .NET
Turn on, tune in, download.
zane a@t abderaware.com
Nov 15 '05 #26
What we need is an OPEN CPU architecture so we can remove the dominance of a
single chip vendor.

Where is the open community regarding this? nowhere to be seen, therye too
busy infighting. Opensource is as fragmented as unix is.

C# is an ECMA standard, but the runtime isnt and neither is the Libraries.
<zane (_) abderaware.com (Zane Thomas)> wrote in message
news:3f******** ********@news.m icrosoft.com...
Mike,
The new OS should be completely API based and have 4 microcode
embedded 'CPU's' which will not be called CPU's anymore. They will be
read only for the most part and offer the processing and storage in a
read only manner for the API's.
I understand what you're saying. Although I have a different spin on a

similar concept. I've thought some about the fact that a componentized operating system could easily support access via networking protocols - like remoting in ..net but on localhost or in-the-box (or nearby) network connections accessed via fiber. For example.

I don't see any reason why an operating system must exist on a single
motherboard directly controled by one or more processors.
--
Abderaware
Fine Components For .NET
Turn on, tune in, download.
zane a@t abderaware.com

Nov 15 '05 #27
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+0200, "bwahahahah a" <bw*******@bwah ahaha.org.ie>,

"+0200" eh? Do I know you? :-)
What we need is an OPEN CPU architecture so we can remove the dominance of a
single chip vendor.
The only reason there is a cpu monopoly on the desktop is because the OS demands
one. MS and Intel are joined at the hip.
Where is the open community regarding this? nowhere to be seen, therye too
busy infighting. Opensource is as fragmented as unix is.


And it's only going to get worse as groups struggle to control the generation of
income.
--
Abderaware
Fine Components For .NET
Turn on, tune in, download.
zane a@t abderaware.com
Nov 15 '05 #28

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