If I were writing a C++ program, I would write a mouse hook. Does C# and
..NET 1.1 have anything equivalent. If not, I suppose I will need to use the
Win32 API.
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"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ue******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl... If I were writing a C++ program, I would write a mouse hook. Does C#
and .NET 1.1 have anything equivalent. If not, I suppose I will need to
use the Win32 API.
A 5-second Google search revealed: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318804
;)
-C
P.S. - nothing personal, I do the same thing sometimes
and people give me crap about it all the time, I'm just
spreading the sarcasm a little :)
so... is "spreading it" supposed to somehow ameliorate
"the crap", or is this revenge?
;o)
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Grace + Peace,
Peter N Roth
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"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ue******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl... If I were writing a C++ program, I would write a mouse hook. Does C#
and .NET 1.1 have anything equivalent. If not, I suppose I will need to
use the Win32 API.
A 5-second Google search revealed:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318804
;)
-C
P.S. - nothing personal, I do the same thing sometimes
and people give me crap about it all the time, I'm just
spreading the sarcasm a little :)
Not only does it cover hooks, but it does so with the mouse hook. Still, I
was hoping that somewhere there was a .NET event which did the hook for
you..
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"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ue******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl... If I were writing a C++ program, I would write a mouse hook. Does C#
and .NET 1.1 have anything equivalent. If not, I suppose I will need to
use the Win32 API.
A 5-second Google search revealed:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318804
;)
-C
P.S. - nothing personal, I do the same thing sometimes
and people give me crap about it all the time, I'm just
spreading the sarcasm a little :)
"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. .. Not only does it cover hooks, but it does so with the mouse hook. Still,
I was hoping that somewhere there was a .NET event which did the hook for
you..
if you want to hook only your app messages you should use the IMessageFilter
else use the above which is a system hook
No, I need something global.
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news:O4******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl... "Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. .. Not only does it cover hooks, but it does so with the mouse hook.
Still, I was hoping that somewhere there was a .NET event which did the hook for
you..
if you want to hook only your app messages you should use the
IMessageFilter else use the above which is a system hook
Well the code that I wrote was based on the article that you pointed me to.
And as I noted, I used Word to help OE. Can a MEC++ DLL be written with out
VC++.NET? All I have is VC# Standard. It sounds like with .NET, if you
want the professional compilers, you MUST buy the entire studio. I do not
have that kind of money.
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"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ef******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl... Ok. I now have the code below. This class is intended to hide the
hook concept. The owner sees a C# event --- sort of anyway. The event
itself is private so I could implement On and Off functions. Instead the owner
passes its caller to the tracker's consturctor. The problem is that my hook
handler is never called. I have verified that mouseTrack.on is
called, but onHook (at the bottom) is never called. Could someone tell me what is
wrong?
Hrm, I know that certain global hooks are impossible from .NET. I know
you cannot set global keyboard handlers (like for CTRL+ALT+DEL, etc)
in .NET. It's *possible*, but I"m not sure, that this same limitation
exists for mouse hooks.
For global hooks, you have to have a DLL that has at least one
export method and you must pass that export method to the global hook.
Windows will load your DLL into it's process space and call your export
function. I think that it will be in a different process space, so you
can't do everything in one process. I may be wrong on that last part.
Anyhow, you cannot create old C-style DLL exports with .NET unless
you have a small MEC++ wrapper for your .NET assembly.
BTW: When I pasted my code from VS.NET 2003 into Outlook Express 6,
all indentation was lost and all lines were triple spaced -- even though
OE is using plain text for newsgroup messages (all font colors remain,
including the backgrounds). I had to copy this text into Word 2002 and copy
that to the message. If someone knows why OE does not take the plain text
version of what is on the clipboard rather than the RTF version, I would be
grateful.
Yeah, OE is not the greatest newsread. It uses a rich text box which
is always capable of receiving colored text, so even if it's in
"plain text" mode, it'll still receive the colors. When you actually
post, it'll remove the colorization.
Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way to preserve the formatting.
You might try a text editor like EditPlus or TextPad. Paste into
there and then copy from there and paste into OE. Sometimes that
works.
<SNIP code>
-c
"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:eG******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl... Well the code that I wrote was based on the article that you pointed
me to. And as I noted, I used Word to help OE. Can a MEC++ DLL be written
with out VC++.NET? All I have is VC# Standard. It sounds like with .NET, if
you want the professional compilers, you MUST buy the entire studio. I do
not have that kind of money.
You can write .NET code in notepad if you want.
Well, I thought that a MEC++ compiler came with the .NET Framework
SDK, but I can't seem to find it, so I must be wrong :(
As far as the other compilers, you don't need VS.NET 2003.
The .NET Framework SDK (free) comes with a C# compiler,
a VB.NET compiler and a JScript.NET compiler, as well as
an IL compiler and an assembly linker. All free.
Shoulda got VC++.NET and then used SharpDevelop or something :(
-c
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"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ef******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl... Ok. I now have the code below. This class is intended to hide
the hook concept. The owner sees a C# event --- sort of anyway. The event
itself is private so I could implement On and Off functions. Instead the
owner passes its caller to the tracker's consturctor. The problem is that my
hook handler is never called. I have verified that mouseTrack.on is
called, but onHook (at the bottom) is never called. Could someone tell me
what is wrong?
Hrm, I know that certain global hooks are impossible from .NET. I
know you cannot set global keyboard handlers (like for CTRL+ALT+DEL, etc)
in .NET. It's *possible*, but I"m not sure, that this same
limitation exists for mouse hooks.
For global hooks, you have to have a DLL that has at least one
export method and you must pass that export method to the global
hook. Windows will load your DLL into it's process space and call your
export function. I think that it will be in a different process space, so
you can't do everything in one process. I may be wrong on that last
part.
Anyhow, you cannot create old C-style DLL exports with .NET unless
you have a small MEC++ wrapper for your .NET assembly.
BTW: When I pasted my code from VS.NET 2003 into Outlook Express
6, all indentation was lost and all lines were triple spaced -- even
though OE is using plain text for newsgroup messages (all font colors remain,
including the backgrounds). I had to copy this text into Word 2002 and copy
that to the message. If someone knows why OE does not take the plain text
version of what is on the clipboard rather than the RTF version, I would
be grateful.
Yeah, OE is not the greatest newsread. It uses a rich text box which
is always capable of receiving colored text, so even if it's in
"plain text" mode, it'll still receive the colors. When you actually
post, it'll remove the colorization.
Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way to preserve the
formatting. You might try a text editor like EditPlus or TextPad. Paste into
there and then copy from there and paste into OE. Sometimes that
works.
<SNIP code>
-c
If you look at the more recent thread where someone is asking which C# to
get, you will find that the main reason I got the book that I did was that
it came with C# (a $100 value), but cost only $79. Where do your deals come
from?
----------
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"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:eG******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl... Well the code that I wrote was based on the article that you pointed
me to. And as I noted, I used Word to help OE. Can a MEC++ DLL be written
with out VC++.NET? All I have is VC# Standard. It sounds like with .NET, if
you want the professional compilers, you MUST buy the entire studio. I do
not have that kind of money.
You can write .NET code in notepad if you want.
Well, I thought that a MEC++ compiler came with the .NET Framework
SDK, but I can't seem to find it, so I must be wrong :(
As far as the other compilers, you don't need VS.NET 2003.
The .NET Framework SDK (free) comes with a C# compiler,
a VB.NET compiler and a JScript.NET compiler, as well as
an IL compiler and an assembly linker. All free.
Shoulda got VC++.NET and then used SharpDevelop or something :(
-c
----------
Will Pittenger
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"Chad Myers" <cm****@N0.SP.4 M.austin.rr.com > wrote in message
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"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ef******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...
> Ok. I now have the code below. This class is intended to hide the hook
> concept. The owner sees a C# event --- sort of anyway. The event
itself is
> private so I could implement On and Off functions. Instead the owner passes
> its caller to the tracker's consturctor. The problem is that my hook > handler is never called. I have verified that mouseTrack.on is
called, but
> onHook (at the bottom) is never called. Could someone tell me what is > wrong?
Hrm, I know that certain global hooks are impossible from .NET. I know you cannot set global keyboard handlers (like for CTRL+ALT+DEL, etc)
in .NET. It's *possible*, but I"m not sure, that this same limitation exists for mouse hooks.
For global hooks, you have to have a DLL that has at least one
export method and you must pass that export method to the global hook. Windows will load your DLL into it's process space and call your export function. I think that it will be in a different process space, so you can't do everything in one process. I may be wrong on that last part.
Anyhow, you cannot create old C-style DLL exports with .NET unless
you have a small MEC++ wrapper for your .NET assembly.
> BTW: When I pasted my code from VS.NET 2003 into Outlook Express 6, all
> indentation was lost and all lines were triple spaced -- even though OE is
> using plain text for newsgroup messages (all font colors remain,
including
> the backgrounds). I had to copy this text into Word 2002 and copy
that to
> the message. If someone knows why OE does not take the plain text
version
> of what is on the clipboard rather than the RTF version, I would be > grateful.
Yeah, OE is not the greatest newsread. It uses a rich text box which
is always capable of receiving colored text, so even if it's in
"plain text" mode, it'll still receive the colors. When you actually
post, it'll remove the colorization.
Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way to preserve the formatting. You might try a text editor like EditPlus or TextPad. Paste into
there and then copy from there and paste into OE. Sometimes that
works.
<SNIP code>
-c
MSDN Subscriptions :)
I've always been fortunate enough to work for companies
with enough MSDN subscriptions for me to legally have a copy
of VS.NET on my laptop for work or whatnot.
-c
"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%2******** **********@TK2M SFTNGP09.phx.gb l... If you look at the more recent thread where someone is asking which C#
to get, you will find that the main reason I got the book that I did was
that it came with C# (a $100 value), but cost only $79. Where do your
deals come from?
----------
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"Chad Myers" <cm****@N0.SP.4 M.austin.rr.com > wrote in message
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"Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:eG******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl... Well the code that I wrote was based on the article that you
pointed me to. And as I noted, I used Word to help OE. Can a MEC++ DLL be
written with out VC++.NET? All I have is VC# Standard. It sounds like with .NET,
if you want the professional compilers, you MUST buy the entire studio.
I do not have that kind of money.
You can write .NET code in notepad if you want.
Well, I thought that a MEC++ compiler came with the .NET Framework
SDK, but I can't seem to find it, so I must be wrong :(
As far as the other compilers, you don't need VS.NET 2003.
The .NET Framework SDK (free) comes with a C# compiler,
a VB.NET compiler and a JScript.NET compiler, as well as
an IL compiler and an assembly linker. All free.
Shoulda got VC++.NET and then used SharpDevelop or something :(
-c
----------
Will Pittenger
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"Chad Myers" <cm****@N0.SP.4 M.austin.rr.com > wrote in message
news:cm******** *************@t wister.austin.r r.com...
>
> "Will Pittenger" <wi************ @verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:ef******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...
> > Ok. I now have the code below. This class is intended to
hide the > hook
> > concept. The owner sees a C# event --- sort of anyway. The
event > itself is
> > private so I could implement On and Off functions. Instead
the owner > passes
> > its caller to the tracker's consturctor. The problem is that
my hook > > handler is never called. I have verified that mouseTrack.on
is > called, but
> > onHook (at the bottom) is never called. Could someone tell me
what is > > wrong?
>
> Hrm, I know that certain global hooks are impossible from .NET.
I know > you cannot set global keyboard handlers (like for CTRL+ALT+DEL,
etc) > in .NET. It's *possible*, but I"m not sure, that this same
limitation > exists for mouse hooks.
>
> For global hooks, you have to have a DLL that has at least one
> export method and you must pass that export method to the global
hook. > Windows will load your DLL into it's process space and call your
export > function. I think that it will be in a different process space,
so you > can't do everything in one process. I may be wrong on that last
part. >
> Anyhow, you cannot create old C-style DLL exports with .NET
unless > you have a small MEC++ wrapper for your .NET assembly.
>
> > BTW: When I pasted my code from VS.NET 2003 into Outlook
Express 6, > all
> > indentation was lost and all lines were triple spaced -- even
though > OE is
> > using plain text for newsgroup messages (all font colors
remain, > including
> > the backgrounds). I had to copy this text into Word 2002 and
copy > that to
> > the message. If someone knows why OE does not take the plain
text > version
> > of what is on the clipboard rather than the RTF version, I
would be > > grateful.
>
> Yeah, OE is not the greatest newsread. It uses a rich text box
which > is always capable of receiving colored text, so even if it's in
> "plain text" mode, it'll still receive the colors. When you
actually > post, it'll remove the colorization.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way to preserve the
formatting. > You might try a text editor like EditPlus or TextPad. Paste into
> there and then copy from there and paste into OE. Sometimes that
> works.
>
> <SNIP code>
>
> -c
>
>
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