<form> syntax

[Coward 9]

HI,

I saw in an example hello.aspx, there is a <form tagbeing used like

<form runat="server>

I search all html tag references and could NOT find "runat" attributes
for <formtag.

which reference should I use in order to find that?

Thanks,

[Juan T. Llibre]

The *asp.net html form control* reference, not the html form reference.

See :
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...zf(VS.71).aspx


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"Coward 9" <Co*****@gmail. comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ p77g2000hsh.goo glegroups.com.. .

HI,

I saw in an example hello.aspx, there is a <form tagbeing used like

<form runat="server>

I search all html tag references and could NOT find "runat" attributes
for <formtag.

which reference should I use in order to find that?

Thanks,

[Mark Rae]

"Coward 9" <Co*****@gmail. comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ p77g2000hsh.goo glegroups.com.. .

I saw in an example hello.aspx, there is a <form tagbeing used like

<form runat="server>

I search all html tag references and could NOT find "runat" attributes
for <formtag.

which reference should I use in order to find that?

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...50(vs.71).aspx

[Scott M.]

runat= is not an HTML attribute. It is a special attribute used in HTML
that will be parsed by the ASP.NET prior to rendering to the client. Since
ASP.NET is server-side code, it is parsed on the server before sending
anything to the client. The client does not receive the runat= syntax.

"Coward 9" <Co*****@gmail. comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ p77g2000hsh.goo glegroups.com.. .

HI,

I saw in an example hello.aspx, there is a <form tagbeing used like

<form runat="server>

I search all html tag references and could NOT find "runat" attributes
for <formtag.

which reference should I use in order to find that?

Thanks,

[Jon Paal [MSMD]]

If runat="server" is unfamiliar, then you should take some time to look here:

http://msconline.maconstate.edu/tuto...20/default.htm

"Coward 9" <Co*****@gmail. comwrote in message news:11******** **************@ p77g2000hsh.goo glegroups.com.. .

HI,

I saw in an example hello.aspx, there is a <form tagbeing used like

<form runat="server>

I search all html tag references and could NOT find "runat" attributes
for <formtag.

which reference should I use in order to find that?

Thanks,

[Scott M.]

The ASP.NET Web Form Control, not *HTML Form Control*. If it's an ASP.NET
control, it's not (by definition) an HTML control as well.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.comwrot e in message
news:ei******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP02.phx.gbl. ..

The *asp.net html form control* reference, not the html form reference.

See :
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...zf(VS.71).aspx


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
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"Coward 9" <Co*****@gmail. comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ p77g2000hsh.goo glegroups.com.. .

>HI,

I saw in an example hello.aspx, there is a <form tagbeing used like

<form runat="server>

I search all html tag references and could NOT find "runat" attributes
for <formtag.

which reference should I use in order to find that?

Thanks,

[Juan T. Llibre]

re:

The ASP.NET Web Form Control, not *HTML Form Control*.

May I repeat my statement, so your mistaken impression is corrected ?

!The *asp.net html form control*

From the page link I sent :

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...zf(VS.71).aspx

You can indicate that an HTML element should be parsed and
treated as a server control by adding a runat="server" attribute.

Furthermore, the HtmlForm Control creates a server-side control that maps to the
<formHTML element and allows you to create a container for elements in a web page.

In essence, the "ASP.NET Web Form Control" is an HTML Form Control which,
by adding the runat="server" property, is processed server-side.

HTH...

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
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"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP06.phx.gbl. ..

The ASP.NET Web Form Control, not *HTML Form Control*. If it's an ASP.NET control, it's not (by
definition) an HTML control as well.

"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.comwrot e in message
news:ei******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP02.phx.gbl. ..

>The *asp.net html form control* reference, not the html form reference.

See :
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...zf(VS.71).aspx


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
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"Coward 9" <Co*****@gmail. comwrote in message
news:11******* *************** @p77g2000hsh.go oglegroups.com. ..

>>HI,

I saw in an example hello.aspx, there is a <form tagbeing used like

<form runat="server>

I search all html tag references and could NOT find "runat" attributes
for <formtag.

which reference should I use in order to find that?

Thanks,

[Scott M.]

I am well aware of how the rendering of server controls results in HTML, but
that has nothing to do with what to call the control in question. Your
terminology is what I'm questioning, not the rendering process.

May I repeat my statement so your incorrect statement can be corrected?

If "runat=serv er" is present, then the control can be programmed server-side
as an "ASP .NET Web Form Control", while "HTML controls" do not have this
capability. This is why VS .NET has two sections for standard page
controls, one is "HTML" and one is "Web Form".

If you take a normal HTML control and add "runat=serv er", you now have a
third category of control, the "HTML Server Control", not the "ASP .NET HTML
Server Control".

I'll refer to your presented article, which is entitled "HTML Server
Controls", not "ASP .NET HTML Controls". In fact, a search of that article
of the words "ASP .NET HTML" or "ASP.NET HTML" shows that no where in the
artcile are "ASP .NET" and "HTML" used next to each other.
HTH
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.comwrot e in message
news:%2******** *******@TK2MSFT NGP02.phx.gbl.. .

re:

>The ASP.NET Web Form Control, not *HTML Form Control*.

May I repeat my statement, so your mistaken impression is corrected ?

!The *asp.net html form control*

From the page link I sent :

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...zf(VS.71).aspx

You can indicate that an HTML element should be parsed and
treated as a server control by adding a runat="server" attribute.

Furthermore, the HtmlForm Control creates a server-side control that maps
to the
<formHTML element and allows you to create a container for elements in a
web page.

In essence, the "ASP.NET Web Form Control" is an HTML Form Control which,
by adding the runat="server" property, is processed server-side.

HTH...

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message
news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP06.phx.gbl. ..

>The ASP.NET Web Form Control, not *HTML Form Control*. If it's an
ASP.NET control, it's not (by definition) an HTML control as well.

>"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.comwrot e in message
news:ei******* *********@TK2MS FTNGP02.phx.gbl ...

>>The *asp.net html form control* reference, not the html form reference.

See :
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...zf(VS.71).aspx


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
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"Coward 9" <Co*****@gmail. comwrote in message
news:11****** *************** *@p77g2000hsh.g ooglegroups.com ...
HI,

I saw in an example hello.aspx, there is a <form tagbeing used like

<form runat="server>

I search all html tag references and could NOT find "runat" attributes
for <formtag.

which reference should I use in order to find that?

Thanks,

[Mark Rae]

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message
news:OZ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

May I repeat my statement so your incorrect statement can be corrected?

Sigh...here he goes again...

[Juan T. Llibre]

re:

Your terminology is what I'm questioning, not the rendering process.

You can nitpick my terminology all you want to.

But you should not nitpick while posting mistaken information.
It makes you look like, well, a nitpicker, and opens the door for *you* to be nitpicked.

re:
!This is why VS .NET has two sections for standard page
!controls, one is "HTML" and one is "Web Form".

Let me nitpick you, now, for a bit, as an example.

It is not "VS.NET" which has those two sections, it's *ASP.NET* which has them.

....and those aren't the correct names for the two sections.

The correct name for them is "HTML Server Controls" and "Web Server Controls",
respectively, and the last one is not called "Web Form Controls, as you allege.

The "Web Form" is a *container* for Web Server Controls, not a web form control itself.

So, to make this abundantly clear, there's only *two* types of web forms, not three.
One is the HTML web form; the other is the ASP.NET web form.

The difference is that one has runat="server"
and the other one doesn't, but you knew that, right ?

Look, we can spend a few back-and-forths nitpicking each other,
or we can try not to nitpick senselessly.

You knew what I meant when I wrote :

!The *asp.net html form control* reference, not the html form reference.

....just as I knew what you meant about the "two sections" and "VS.NET",
even if what you stated was not precisely correct on two counts.

Professional programmers, unless there's clearly mistaken references,
should avoid nitpicking for nitpicking's sake.

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
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"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message news:OZ******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

>I am well aware of how the rendering of server controls results in HTML, but that has nothing to do
with what to call the control in question. Your terminology is what I'm questioning, not the
rendering process.

May I repeat my statement so your incorrect statement can be corrected?

If "runat=serv er" is present, then the control can be programmed server-side as an "ASP .NET Web
Form Control", while "HTML controls" do not have this capability. This is why VS .NET has two
sections for standard page controls, one is "HTML" and one is "Web Form".

If you take a normal HTML control and add "runat=serv er", you now have a third category of
control, the "HTML Server Control", not the "ASP .NET HTML Server Control".

I'll refer to your presented article, which is entitled "HTML Server Controls", not "ASP .NET HTML
Controls". In fact, a search of that article of the words "ASP .NET HTML" or "ASP.NET HTML" shows
that no where in the artcile are "ASP .NET" and "HTML" used next to each other.
HTH

"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.comwrot e in message
news:%2******** *******@TK2MSFT NGP02.phx.gbl.. .

>re:

>>The ASP.NET Web Form Control, not *HTML Form Control*.

May I repeat my statement, so your mistaken impression is corrected ?

!The *asp.net html form control*

From the page link I sent :

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...zf(VS.71).aspx

You can indicate that an HTML element should be parsed and
treated as a server control by adding a runat="server" attribute.

Furthermore, the HtmlForm Control creates a server-side control that maps to the
<formHTML element and allows you to create a container for elements in a web page.

In essence, the "ASP.NET Web Form Control" is an HTML Form Control which,
by adding the runat="server" property, is processed server-side.

HTH...

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message news:%2******** ********@TK2MSF TNGP06.phx.gbl. ..

>>The ASP.NET Web Form Control, not *HTML Form Control*. If it's an ASP.NET control, it's not (by
definition) an HTML control as well.

>>"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.comwrot e in message
news:ei****** **********@TK2M SFTNGP02.phx.gb l...
The *asp.net html form control* reference, not the html form reference.

See :
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...zf(VS.71).aspx


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
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"Coward 9" <Co*****@gmail. comwrote in message
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HI,
>
I saw in an example hello.aspx, there is a <form tagbeing used like
>
<form runat="server>
>
I search all html tag references and could NOT find "runat" attributes
for <formtag.
>
which reference should I use in order to find that?
>
Thanks,
>