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How do I change the session timeout?

I tried:
<sessionState timeout="1">
</sessionState>

bounced IIS, and after 1 minute still had a session.

???

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Mar 30 '07 #1
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David Thielen wrote:
I tried:
<sessionState timeout="1">
</sessionState>

bounced IIS, and after 1 minute still had a session.

???
The IIS only clears out old sessions once a minute, so the sessions will
live up to two minutes.

--
Göran Andersson
_____
http://www.guffa.com
Mar 30 '07 #2
Hi Dave,

As for ASP.NET SessionState, the timeout setting does be the "timeout"
attribute of the <sessionStateel ement:

#sessionState Element
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/h6bb9cz9.aspx

As for the session timeout behavior, how did you found that the session
hasn't been timeout. When a old session has been timeout, a new one will be
started. Have you checked the sessionID to verify that a different
sessionID has been established?

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

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Mar 30 '07 #3
re:
!Have you checked the sessionID to verify that a different
!sessionID has been established?
Steven,

There is an issue with SessionID, Internet Explorer and Firefox which consists in that,
if all instances of IE/Firefox aren't closed before attempting to create a new session,
the SessionID will be recycled ( the same SessionID will continue to be used ).

Easy repro :

1. Create a Session start time variable in global.asax:

Sub Session_OnStart ()
Session.Content s("SessionStart Time") = Now
End Sub

2. Create a test page, SessionID.aspx :
<%@ Page Language="VB" %>
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<script language="VB" runat="server">
Sub Page_Load(Sende r As Object, E As EventArgs)
Response.Write( "Session ID : " & Session.Session ID)
Response.Write( "<br />")
Response.Write( " Session start time : " & Session("Sessio nStartTime"))
End Sub
</script>
</body>
</html>

3. Set the session timeout in web.config to 1 minute :

<sessionState mode="InProc" cookieless="fal se" timeout="1" />

Now, close all instances of Internet Explorer/Firefox, except one and :

1. Run SessionID.aspx and note the Session ID and the time.

2. After 1 minute and 1 second, refresh the page.

The SessionID will be the same, but the Session start time will be different.
( The SessionID was recycled, but there is a new Session start time, so there's a new session )

3. Now, close Internet Explorer/Firefox and run the same page.

The SessionID will change.

This behavior must be taken into consideration when testing because,
if all browser windows aren't closed, the SessionID will be the same
....even though a new session exists.

I haven't tested other browsers, but suspect that, since IE
and Firefox exhibit the same behavior, the same will happen.

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
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news:wT******** ******@TK2MSFTN GHUB02.phx.gbl. ..
Hi Dave,

As for ASP.NET SessionState, the timeout setting does be the "timeout"
attribute of the <sessionStateel ement:

#sessionState Element
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/h6bb9cz9.aspx

As for the session timeout behavior, how did you found that the session
hasn't been timeout. When a old session has been timeout, a new one will be
started. Have you checked the sessionID to verify that a different
sessionID has been established?

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

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Mar 30 '07 #4
re:
The IIS only clears out old sessions once a minute, so the sessions will live up to two minutes.
Have you tested that ? That is not true.

IIS has nothing to do with session length.
Session length is determined by ASP.NET.

And, invariably, if you set the timeout to 1 minute,
at one minute and 1 second after that time, a new session will start.

See my just-sent reply to Steven Cheng and test it yourself.

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"Göran Andersson" <gu***@guffa.co mwrote in message news:up******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl...
David Thielen wrote:
>I tried:
<sessionStat e timeout="1">
</sessionState>

bounced IIS, and after 1 minute still had a session.

???

The IIS only clears out old sessions once a minute, so the sessions will live up to two minutes.

--
Göran Andersson
_____
http://www.guffa.com

Mar 30 '07 #5
David,

See my just-sent reply to Steven Cheng.

The SessionID is recycled if you don't close all browser instances.
i.e., even though you have the same SessionID, you'll have a new session.

Try the code I sent in my reply to Steven and test it yourself.


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"David Thielen" <th*****@nospam .nospamwrote in message
news:DF******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
>I tried:
<sessionState timeout="1">
</sessionState>

bounced IIS, and after 1 minute still had a session.

???

--
thanks - dave
david_at_windwa rd_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com

Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm


Mar 30 '07 #6
Hi;

Ok, I changed the timeout to 3 (minutes), restarted IIS, logged in to my app
which we use the ASP.NET membership/role provider for, waited 5 minutes, then
went to a different page and it displayed that page - I was still logged in.

If I wait 21 minutes and go to a different page it makes me log in again.

Am I not understanding something on the session timeout?

--
thanks - dave
david_at_windwa rd_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com

Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm


"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:
Hi Dave,

As for ASP.NET SessionState, the timeout setting does be the "timeout"
attribute of the <sessionStateel ement:

#sessionState Element
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/h6bb9cz9.aspx

As for the session timeout behavior, how did you found that the session
hasn't been timeout. When a old session has been timeout, a new one will be
started. Have you checked the sessionID to verify that a different
sessionID has been established?

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

=============== =============== =============== =====

Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...ult.aspx#notif
ications.

Note: The MSDN Managed Newsgroup support offering is for non-urgent issues
where an initial response from the community or a Microsoft Support
Engineer within 1 business day is acceptable. Please note that each follow
up response may take approximately 2 business days as the support
professional working with you may need further investigation to reach the
most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations
that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions or complex
project analysis and dump analysis issues. Issues of this nature are best
handled working with a dedicated Microsoft Support Engineer by contacting
Microsoft Customer Support Services (CSS) at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...t/default.aspx.

=============== =============== =============== =====

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Mar 30 '07 #7
re:
Ok, I changed the timeout to 3 (minutes), restarted IIS
You don't need to restart IIS.
Editing web.config will start a new application instance and session.

re:
!logged in to my app which we use the ASP.NET membership/role provider for,
!waited 5 minutes, then went to a different page and it displayed that page
!- I was still logged in.

!If I wait 21 minutes and go to a different page it makes me log in again.

If you want your application, which uses ASP.NET membership,
to not keep you logged in for 20 minutes, change the timeout for
the forms authentication cookie.

The session duration has no bearing on the duration
of the timeout period configured for forms authentication.

Look for the "timeout" element of the forms authentication section
<authenticati on mode="Forms">
<forms loginUrl="Login .aspx"
protection="All "
timeout="20"
etc...

/>

....and change *that* timeout to whatever you want to, in minutes.

You will see that the logged-in period changes to match the number of minutes you specify.


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"David Thielen" <th*****@nospam .nospamwrote in message
news:3B******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Hi;

Ok, I changed the timeout to 3 (minutes), restarted IIS, logged in to my app
which we use the ASP.NET membership/role provider for, waited 5 minutes, then
went to a different page and it displayed that page - I was still logged in.

If I wait 21 minutes and go to a different page it makes me log in again.

Am I not understanding something on the session timeout?

--
thanks - dave
david_at_windwa rd_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com

Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm


"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:
>Hi Dave,

As for ASP.NET SessionState, the timeout setting does be the "timeout"
attribute of the <sessionStateel ement:

#sessionStat e Element
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/h6bb9cz9.aspx

As for the session timeout behavior, how did you found that the session
hasn't been timeout. When a old session has been timeout, a new one will be
started. Have you checked the sessionID to verify that a different
sessionID has been established?

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

============== =============== =============== ======

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ications.

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where an initial response from the community or a Microsoft Support
Engineer within 1 business day is acceptable. Please note that each follow
up response may take approximately 2 business days as the support
professional working with you may need further investigation to reach the
most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations
that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions or complex
project analysis and dump analysis issues. Issues of this nature are best
handled working with a dedicated Microsoft Support Engineer by contacting
Microsoft Customer Support Services (CSS) at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...t/default.aspx.

============== =============== =============== ======

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Mar 30 '07 #8
That fixed it. But how are the session and login seperable? It seems to me
that if I lose my session then I've lost what I am working on and so it
should log me out too.

--
thanks - dave
david_at_windwa rd_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com

Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm


"Juan T. Llibre" wrote:
re:
Ok, I changed the timeout to 3 (minutes), restarted IIS

You don't need to restart IIS.
Editing web.config will start a new application instance and session.

re:
!logged in to my app which we use the ASP.NET membership/role provider for,
!waited 5 minutes, then went to a different page and it displayed that page
!- I was still logged in.

!If I wait 21 minutes and go to a different page it makes me log in again.

If you want your application, which uses ASP.NET membership,
to not keep you logged in for 20 minutes, change the timeout for
the forms authentication cookie.

The session duration has no bearing on the duration
of the timeout period configured for forms authentication.

Look for the "timeout" element of the forms authentication section
<authenticati on mode="Forms">
<forms loginUrl="Login .aspx"
protection="All "
timeout="20"
etc...

/>

....and change *that* timeout to whatever you want to, in minutes.

You will see that the logged-in period changes to match the number of minutes you specify.


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"David Thielen" <th*****@nospam .nospamwrote in message
news:3B******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Hi;

Ok, I changed the timeout to 3 (minutes), restarted IIS, logged in to my app
which we use the ASP.NET membership/role provider for, waited 5 minutes, then
went to a different page and it displayed that page - I was still logged in.

If I wait 21 minutes and go to a different page it makes me log in again.

Am I not understanding something on the session timeout?

--
thanks - dave
david_at_windwa rd_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com

Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm


"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:
Hi Dave,

As for ASP.NET SessionState, the timeout setting does be the "timeout"
attribute of the <sessionStateel ement:

#sessionState Element
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/h6bb9cz9.aspx

As for the session timeout behavior, how did you found that the session
hasn't been timeout. When a old session has been timeout, a new one will be
started. Have you checked the sessionID to verify that a different
sessionID has been established?

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

=============== =============== =============== =====

Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...ult.aspx#notif
ications.

Note: The MSDN Managed Newsgroup support offering is for non-urgent issues
where an initial response from the community or a Microsoft Support
Engineer within 1 business day is acceptable. Please note that each follow
up response may take approximately 2 business days as the support
professional working with you may need further investigation to reach the
most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations
that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions or complex
project analysis and dump analysis issues. Issues of this nature are best
handled working with a dedicated Microsoft Support Engineer by contacting
Microsoft Customer Support Services (CSS) at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...t/default.aspx.

=============== =============== =============== =====

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.





Mar 30 '07 #9
re:
That fixed it.
Yup...

re:
how are the session and login separable?
They are two different objects.

A session will last for as long a period as you set in <sessionstate.. .>

A period of time for your app to remember your login parameters is different.
That's set in the forms timeout property.

ASP.NET membership doesn't need for a session to be active
in order to remember whether your membership parameters are active.

One of those parameters is the time for the app
to remember whether you're logged in or not.

You can choose to base your app on the length of the session,
or on the time needed for your login to expire.

Depending on which of the two objects you choose to control how
your application behaves, the appropiate length will be implemented.


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"David Thielen" <th*****@nospam .nospamwrote in message
news:FF******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
That fixed it. But how are the session and login seperable? It seems to me
that if I lose my session then I've lost what I am working on and so it
should log me out too.

--
thanks - dave
david_at_windwa rd_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com

Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm


"Juan T. Llibre" wrote:
>re:
Ok, I changed the timeout to 3 (minutes), restarted IIS

You don't need to restart IIS.
Editing web.config will start a new application instance and session.

re:
!logged in to my app which we use the ASP.NET membership/role provider for,
!waited 5 minutes, then went to a different page and it displayed that page
!- I was still logged in.

!If I wait 21 minutes and go to a different page it makes me log in again.

If you want your application, which uses ASP.NET membership,
to not keep you logged in for 20 minutes, change the timeout for
the forms authentication cookie.

The session duration has no bearing on the duration
of the timeout period configured for forms authentication.

Look for the "timeout" element of the forms authentication section
<authenticatio n mode="Forms">
<forms loginUrl="Login .aspx"
protection="All "
timeout="20"
etc...

/>

....and change *that* timeout to whatever you want to, in minutes.

You will see that the logged-in period changes to match the number of minutes you specify.


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
============== =============== ======
"David Thielen" <th*****@nospam .nospamwrote in message
news:3B******* *************** ************@mi crosoft.com...
Hi;

Ok, I changed the timeout to 3 (minutes), restarted IIS, logged in to my app
which we use the ASP.NET membership/role provider for, waited 5 minutes, then
went to a different page and it displayed that page - I was still logged in.

If I wait 21 minutes and go to a different page it makes me log in again.

Am I not understanding something on the session timeout?

--
thanks - dave
david_at_windwa rd_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com

Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm


"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:

Hi Dave,

As for ASP.NET SessionState, the timeout setting does be the "timeout"
attribute of the <sessionStateel ement:

#sessionStat e Element
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/h6bb9cz9.aspx

As for the session timeout behavior, how did you found that the session
hasn't been timeout. When a old session has been timeout, a new one will be
started. Have you checked the sessionID to verify that a different
sessionID has been established?

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

============== =============== =============== ======

Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...ult.aspx#notif
ications.

Note: The MSDN Managed Newsgroup support offering is for non-urgent issues
where an initial response from the community or a Microsoft Support
Engineer within 1 business day is acceptable. Please note that each follow
up response may take approximately 2 business days as the support
professional working with you may need further investigation to reach the
most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations
that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions or complex
project analysis and dump analysis issues. Issues of this nature are best
handled working with a dedicated Microsoft Support Engineer by contacting
Microsoft Customer Support Services (CSS) at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...t/default.aspx.

============== =============== =============== ======

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.






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