Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for
Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used?
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"tom c" <to******@gmail .comwrote in message
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Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for
Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used?
Not wishing to sound pedantic, but you actually can't do .NET programming
with VB. Most , but not all, ASP classic server-side code was written in
VBScript.
VB.NET, however, is a totally different animal and perfectly suited to .NET
development of WinForms, WebForms, services, console apps etc...
Apart from the unfortunate coincidence of the name and some syntax
similarity, VB and VB.NET bear almost no relationship one to another.
As for which of the two is the more popular, short of a massive developer
survey, it would be almost impossible to calculate because once the code has
been compiled and deployed it takes a fair bit of unstitching to decipher
which of the .NET languages it was written in...
As a jobbing contract developer, I made a living through Visual Basic and
its cousins (VBScript, VBA, WordBasic, AccessBasic etc) right from the start
but, since .NET v1.0, I have developed everything in C# apart from only one
project in VB.NET because it suited me at the time.
MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB
these days.
Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language
... or move to Coldfusion :)
"tom c" <to******@gmail .comwrote in message news:11******** **************@ b28g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for
Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used?
re:
MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB.
That's -simply- not so.
re:
It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB these days.
Compare the current downloads for each language at the MS Download Center :
C# : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/B...tCriteria=date
There's 213 downloads for Visual C#.
VB.NET: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/B...tCriteria=date
There's 331 downloads for VB.NET.
Over and above the individual language downloads,
there's hundreds more downloads which include both languages.
You are spreading FUD...and I wonder why you're doing it.
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
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"Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot comwrote in message
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MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible to
find complete help samples in VB these days.
Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language
.. or move to Coldfusion :)
"tom c" <to******@gmail .comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ b28g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
>Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for
Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used?
"microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress is their manual available in "C#"
where is the "microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress in "VB" ?
very hard to find complete training source materials in VB - my personal experience
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.comwrot e in message news:On******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P05.phx.gbl...
re:
>MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB.
That's -simply- not so.
re:
>It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB these days.
Compare the current downloads for each language at the MS Download Center :
C# :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/B...tCriteria=date
There's 213 downloads for Visual C#.
VB.NET:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/B...tCriteria=date
There's 331 downloads for VB.NET.
Over and above the individual language downloads,
there's hundreds more downloads which include both languages.
You are spreading FUD...and I wonder why you're doing it.
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espańol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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"Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot comwrote in message news:Oi******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...
>MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in
VB these days.
Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language
.. or move to Coldfusion :)
"tom c" <to******@gmail .comwrote in message news:11******** **************@ b28g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
>>Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for
Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used?
Jon,
as Juan correctly explained, this is not true (fortunately or unfortunately
as the case may be). I'd be vaguely happy if VB.NET developers would simply
learn to turn on Option Strict and Option Explicit.
Peter
--
Co-founder, Eggheadcafe.com developer portal: http://www.eggheadcafe.com
UnBlog: http://petesbloggerama.blogspot.com
"Jon Paal" wrote:
MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB
these days.
Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language
... or move to Coldfusion :)
"tom c" <to******@gmail .comwrote in message news:11******** **************@ b28g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for
Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used?
re:
where is the "microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress in "VB" ?
So what ?
The .Net Framework 2.0 Class Library Reference isn't out yet, while the 1.1 lib ref is.
That doesn't mean that Microsoft is dropping support for the .Net Framework 2.0.
You can't base a theory that speculates dropping support
for a language on a particular book not having come out.
re:
very hard to find complete training source materials in VB - my personal experience
You don't have to rely on MS Press.
Here's a complete ASP.NET 2.0 tutorial which uses -exclusively- VB.NET : http://msconline.maconstate.edu/tuto...20/default.htm
You'll have a hard time finding a better one.
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espańol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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"Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot comwrote in message
news:ON******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl...
"microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress is their manual available in "C#"
where is the "microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress in "VB" ?
very hard to find complete training source materials in VB - my personal experience
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@ nowhere.comwrot e in message
news:On******** *****@TK2MSFTNG P05.phx.gbl...
>re:
>>MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB.
That's -simply- not so.
re:
>>It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB these days.
Compare the current downloads for each language at the MS Download Center :
C# :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/B...tCriteria=date
There's 213 downloads for Visual C#.
VB.NET:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/B...tCriteria=date
There's 331 downloads for VB.NET.
Over and above the individual language downloads,
there's hundreds more downloads which include both languages.
You are spreading FUD...and I wonder why you're doing it.
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.co m : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espańol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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"Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot comwrote in message
news:Oi******* *******@TK2MSFT NGP04.phx.gbl.. .
>>MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible
to find complete help samples in VB these days.
Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language
.. or move to Coldfusion :)
"tom c" <to******@gmail .comwrote in message
news:11****** *************** *@b28g2000cwb.g ooglegroups.com ...
Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for
Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used?
The total lack of MS books with VB, which is precisely my point...
I've been using maconstate for years because MS doesn't provide the necessary VB support.
another example is :
"Developing Microsoft ASP.NET Server Controls and Components " from MS Press is in C#
"Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot comwrote in message
news:eA******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl...
The total lack of MS books with VB, which is precisely my point...
I've been using maconstate for years because MS doesn't provide the necessary
VB support.
another example is :
"Developing Microsoft ASP.NET Server Controls and Components " from MS Press
is in C#
Your argument doesn't hold water, drop it. Microsoft has made no announcement
that VB will not be continued. They've supported BASIC since MS-DOS days while
other software companies dropped it outright. About the only advantage C# has
in this regard is that it's been formally released as a standard (ECMA 334)
whereas VB has not.
when books are released in VB first then we'll know it has a future.
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