Hello,
I'm helping write a .net app, we are using VS2005 and asp/vb.net for
code
we are using the "masterPage.mas ter" technique, within the masterpage
we have an asp:contentplac eholder that is the place holder for the
main portion of the body of the site
my question is, is there a way to test what aspx page will be loaded
into the contentplacehol der? basically if it is our home page, that
page has a wider definition than all of our other pages. so i'd like
to test in the masterpage and if it is home.aspx then use a certain
layout, if it is anything else, then i'd like to use an alternate
layout.
any suggestions (or code examples) would be most appreciated. i'm
relatively new to .net, but have been coding for many years prior
thanks, simon
11  1454 
Why not alter the master page layout from the relevent content page?
"simon" wrote:
Hello,
I'm helping write a .net app, we are using VS2005 and asp/vb.net for
code
we are using the "masterPage.mas ter" technique, within the masterpage
we have an asp:contentplac eholder that is the place holder for the
main portion of the body of the site
my question is, is there a way to test what aspx page will be loaded
into the contentplacehol der? basically if it is our home page, that
page has a wider definition than all of our other pages. so i'd like
to test in the masterpage and if it is home.aspx then use a certain
layout, if it is anything else, then i'd like to use an alternate
layout.
any suggestions (or code examples) would be most appreciated. i'm
relatively new to .net, but have been coding for many years prior
thanks, simon
My advice is not to use Master pages, as they rename tags and make scripting
more difficult.
I use includes, putting your CSS links and whatever in the headPage and
header and footer in top and bottom pages.
you can the save page as a template
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<!-- #include virtual ="/headPage.aspx" -->
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<!-- #include virtual ="/top.aspx" -->
Content here
<!-- #include virtual ="/bottom.aspx" -->
</BODY>
<HTML>
"simon" <me@here.comwro te in message
news:57******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...
Hello,
I'm helping write a .net app, we are using VS2005 and asp/vb.net for
code
we are using the "masterPage.mas ter" technique, within the masterpage
we have an asp:contentplac eholder that is the place holder for the
main portion of the body of the site
my question is, is there a way to test what aspx page will be loaded
into the contentplacehol der? basically if it is our home page, that
page has a wider definition than all of our other pages. so i'd like
to test in the masterpage and if it is home.aspx then use a certain
layout, if it is anything else, then i'd like to use an alternate
layout.
any suggestions (or code examples) would be most appreciated. i'm
relatively new to .net, but have been coding for many years prior
thanks, simon
thanks for the reply, being relatively new, i do not know how to do
that. could you expand on your answer if you don't mind. thanks
>Why not alter the master page layout from the relevent content page?
"simon" wrote:
>my question is, is there a way to test what aspx page will be loaded
into the contentplacehol der? basically if it is our home page, that
page has a wider definition than all of our other pages. so i'd like
to test in the masterpage and if it is home.aspx then use a certain
layout, if it is anything else, then i'd like to use an alternate
layout.
I'm with you there. i've run into exactly what you've said that makes
using it more difficult. right now i don't have an option to (due to
time) to undo the usage of masterpage. so i'm hoping there is
something programmaticall y i can use to fix this issue.
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:14:37 +0800, "Slim" <me@here.comwro te:
>My advice is not to use Master pages, as they rename tags and make scripting
more difficult.
I use includes, putting your CSS links and whatever in the headPage and
header and footer in top and bottom pages.
you can the save page as a template
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<!-- #include virtual ="/headPage.aspx" -->
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<!-- #include virtual ="/top.aspx" -->
Content here
<!-- #include virtual ="/bottom.aspx" -->
</BODY>
<HTML>
"simon" <me@here.comwro te in message
news:57******* *************** **********@4ax. com...
>Hello,
I'm helping write a .net app, we are using VS2005 and asp/vb.net for
code
we are using the "masterPage.mas ter" technique, within the masterpage
we have an asp:contentplac eholder that is the place holder for the
main portion of the body of the site
my question is, is there a way to test what aspx page will be loaded
into the contentplacehol der? basically if it is our home page, that
page has a wider definition than all of our other pages. so i'd like
to test in the masterpage and if it is home.aspx then use a certain
layout, if it is anything else, then i'd like to use an alternate
layout.
any suggestions (or code examples) would be most appreciated. i'm
relatively new to .net, but have been coding for many years prior
thanks, simon
In article <#z************ **@TK2MSFTNGP06 .phx.gbl>, Slim <me@here.com>
writes
>My advice is not to use Master pages, as they rename tags and make
scripting more difficult.
My advice is definitely to use master pages as they are a fantastic boon
for web sites. You just have to learn how to get around the fact that
the client ID of controls is changed to cope with the fact that you
could easily have two controls with the same ID, one in the master page
and one in a content area (etc).
If you are bothered about client-side scripting, then all you need to do
is something like...
<script type="text/javascript">
function something() {
myName = <%= txtMyName.Clien tID %>.value;
}
</script>
When the page is compiled, the server-side bit of the above code is
replaced with the generated client ID, and your javascript works fine.
The same can be done for the "for" attribute of <labeltags.
Include files are a very poor and non-OO way of doing templates for your
site. Master pages have many, many advantages.
--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
In article <57************ *************** *****@4ax.com>, simon
<me@here.comwri tes
>my question is, is there a way to test what aspx page will be loaded
into the contentplacehol der? basically if it is our home page, that
page has a wider definition than all of our other pages. so i'd like
to test in the masterpage and if it is home.aspx then use a certain
layout, if it is anything else, then i'd like to use an alternate layout.
Depends exactly what you need to do. For example, I have a situation
where one page needs a slightly different layout from the others. I have
two contentplacehol der controls in the master page, one inside the
<headand one in the <body>.
The one in the <headis rarely used, but in the page mentioned above,
it contains a few lines of CSS that set the layout specific to this
page. Remember, this page-specific CSS is not set in the master page, it
is in the content (.aspx) page.
If you really need to get at the name of the content page from within
the master page, use (air code, check the exact syntax)...
Request.ServerV ariables["SCRIPT_NAM E"].ToString()
which will give you the name of the .aspx file.
HTH
--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
"Alan Silver" <al*********@no spam.thanx.inva lidwrote in message
news:Zs******** ******@nospamth ankyou.spam...
In article <#z************ **@TK2MSFTNGP06 .phx.gbl>, Slim <me@here.com>
writes
>>My advice is not to use Master pages, as they rename tags and make
scripting more difficult.
My advice is definitely to use master pages as they are a fantastic boon
for web sites. You just have to learn how to get around the fact that
the client ID of controls is changed to cope with the fact that you
could easily have two controls with the same ID, one in the master page
and one in a content area (etc).
If you are bothered about client-side scripting, then all you need to do
is something like...
<script type="text/javascript">
function something() {
myName = <%= txtMyName.Clien tID %>.value;
}
</script>
When the page is compiled, the server-side bit of the above code is
replaced with the generated client ID, and your javascript works fine.
The same can be done for the "for" attribute of <labeltags.
why bother?
when you can simply do this below, get same result without the bother. you
can save it as a template
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<!-- #include virtual ="/headPage.htm" -->
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<!-- #include virtual ="/top.htm" -->
Content here
<!-- #include virtual ="/bottom.htm" -->
</BODY>
<HTML>
Include files are a very poor and non-OO way of doing templates for your
site. Master pages have many, many advantages.
--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
In article <O$************ **@TK2MSFTNGP06 .phx.gbl>, Slim <me@here.com>
writes
>why bother?
when you can simply do this below, get same result without the bother.
you can save it as a template
Because with master pages you only have one template file instead of
three, you have a single, central place where your template coding can
take place, you have real OO access to the elements on your page and
many, many more reasons.
Sure you can use include files, but then you can use Response.Write to
generate your HTML if you want. MS don't force you to use the new
methods, but you are missing a lot if you stick with the old, outdated
way of doing things. It looks to me like you are still thinking in
calssic ASP mode.
I also used to think like you about master pages. That was before I
understood what they are and how they work. I came from classic ASP and
was trying to force ASP.NET into that programming model. You can do it
that way, but you miss many of the benefits of the new framework. If you
take time to learn the ASP.NET way of doing things, you'll find yourself
much more productive in the long run.
Just my 2c.
--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
"Alan Silver" <al*********@no spam.thanx.inva lidwrote in message
news:Ec******** ******@nospamth ankyou.spam...
In article <O$************ **@TK2MSFTNGP06 .phx.gbl>, Slim <me@here.com>
writes
>>why bother?
when you can simply do this below, get same result without the bother. you
can save it as a template
Because with master pages you only have one template file instead of
three,
i think yo miss my point, the page i posted is a example, of cause i still
use the vb code behind and all the other features of .net. I just dont like
the way master pages change id names
you use the page i posted as 1 template. not 3,
you have a single, central place where your template coding can
take place, you have real OO access to the elements on your page and many,
many more reasons.
Objects can be placed in the page no probs, i cant see the diff
>
Sure you can use include files, but then you can use Response.Write to
generate your HTML if you want. MS don't force you to use the new methods,
but you are missing a lot if you stick with the old, outdated way of doing
things. It looks to me like you are still thinking in calssic ASP mode.
I also used to think like you about master pages. That was before I
understood what they are and how they work. I came from classic ASP and
was trying to force ASP.NET into that programming model. You can do it
that way, but you miss many of the benefits of the new framework. If you
take time to learn the ASP.NET way of doing things, you'll find yourself
much more productive in the long run.
Just my 2c.
What benefits?
how would it be more productive?
>
--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
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