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I really hope i get an answer to this one!
At the roll-out of 2.0 ,and before, a lot of emphisis was placed on 2.0
being very friendly to the non-programmer. It was said over and over that
CRUD opperations could be performed with little or no vb programming meaning
that a lot of the work necessary for the simple opperations such as writting
the CRUD opperations for a table that contains values intended to fill drop
down lists or combo boxes can be done by a non-programmer. This would leave
the more complicated items to a higher level developer.

Well here is the challange: Is there a book intended for the non-programmer?
My wife can do light Coldfusion opperations now, but she wants to do the same
for dot net 2.0 sites, but she can't find a good resource intended
fordesigners like herself.. She does not need to learn about creating
controls as is found in the step by step for asp.net 2.0 book. She needs a
step by step for creating simple gridviews, formviews, detailviews, and drop
downs, but it needs to be geared for a person who has never been a programmer.
--
thanks (as always)
some day i''m gona pay this forum back for all the help i''m getting
kes
May 11 '06 #1
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To do asp.net 2.0 you do not have to do much programming, and tools like
vs.net and visual web developer make life simpler for people looking to do
CRUD - but you do have to understand the object model and the events of
those objects to understand how to do design well with the framework.

I would take a look at some of the cookbooks, they explain a lot - probably
more than your wife might wish to learn but that extra knowledge will help
her in here design goals. O'Reilly asp.net 2.0 Cookbook is one I refer to
often.

--
Regards

John Timney
Microsoft MVP

"WebBuilder 451" <We***********@ discussions.mic rosoft.com> wrote in message
news:B1******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
I really hope i get an answer to this one!
At the roll-out of 2.0 ,and before, a lot of emphisis was placed on 2.0
being very friendly to the non-programmer. It was said over and over that
CRUD opperations could be performed with little or no vb programming
meaning
that a lot of the work necessary for the simple opperations such as
writting
the CRUD opperations for a table that contains values intended to fill
drop
down lists or combo boxes can be done by a non-programmer. This would
leave
the more complicated items to a higher level developer.

Well here is the challange: Is there a book intended for the
non-programmer?
My wife can do light Coldfusion opperations now, but she wants to do the
same
for dot net 2.0 sites, but she can't find a good resource intended
fordesigners like herself.. She does not need to learn about creating
controls as is found in the step by step for asp.net 2.0 book. She needs a
step by step for creating simple gridviews, formviews, detailviews, and
drop
downs, but it needs to be geared for a person who has never been a
programmer.
--
thanks (as always)
some day i''m gona pay this forum back for all the help i''m getting
kes

May 11 '06 #2
Thanks, We'll check it out. I have the SQL cook book for cross platform query
translation and it does start out with simple queries, so if the asp.net book
is similar it should work!

--
thanks (as always)
some day i''m gona pay this forum back for all the help i''m getting
kes
"John Timney ( MVP )" wrote:
To do asp.net 2.0 you do not have to do much programming, and tools like
vs.net and visual web developer make life simpler for people looking to do
CRUD - but you do have to understand the object model and the events of
those objects to understand how to do design well with the framework.

I would take a look at some of the cookbooks, they explain a lot - probably
more than your wife might wish to learn but that extra knowledge will help
her in here design goals. O'Reilly asp.net 2.0 Cookbook is one I refer to
often.

--
Regards

John Timney
Microsoft MVP

"WebBuilder 451" <We***********@ discussions.mic rosoft.com> wrote in message
news:B1******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
I really hope i get an answer to this one!
At the roll-out of 2.0 ,and before, a lot of emphisis was placed on 2.0
being very friendly to the non-programmer. It was said over and over that
CRUD opperations could be performed with little or no vb programming
meaning
that a lot of the work necessary for the simple opperations such as
writting
the CRUD opperations for a table that contains values intended to fill
drop
down lists or combo boxes can be done by a non-programmer. This would
leave
the more complicated items to a higher level developer.

Well here is the challange: Is there a book intended for the
non-programmer?
My wife can do light Coldfusion opperations now, but she wants to do the
same
for dot net 2.0 sites, but she can't find a good resource intended
fordesigners like herself.. She does not need to learn about creating
controls as is found in the step by step for asp.net 2.0 book. She needs a
step by step for creating simple gridviews, formviews, detailviews, and
drop
downs, but it needs to be geared for a person who has never been a
programmer.
--
thanks (as always)
some day i''m gona pay this forum back for all the help i''m getting
kes


May 11 '06 #3
I find that running the samples, and going over the source code in them,
in the ASP.NET QuickStarts helps beginners...a lot.

For 1.0 : http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickst...uickstart.aspx
For 1.1 : http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/aspplus/
For 2.0 : http://asp.net/quickstart/aspnet/Default.aspx

You can install them locally by installing the appropiate .Net Framework SDK :

For 1.1 :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

For 2.0 :
http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...s/default.aspx


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"WebBuilder 451" <We***********@ discussions.mic rosoft.com> wrote in message
news:B3******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Thanks, We'll check it out. I have the SQL cook book for cross platform query
translation and it does start out with simple queries, so if the asp.net book
is similar it should work!

--
thanks (as always)
some day i''m gona pay this forum back for all the help i''m getting
kes
"John Timney ( MVP )" wrote:
To do asp.net 2.0 you do not have to do much programming, and tools like
vs.net and visual web developer make life simpler for people looking to do
CRUD - but you do have to understand the object model and the events of
those objects to understand how to do design well with the framework.

I would take a look at some of the cookbooks, they explain a lot - probably
more than your wife might wish to learn but that extra knowledge will help
her in here design goals. O'Reilly asp.net 2.0 Cookbook is one I refer to
often.

--
Regards

John Timney
Microsoft MVP

"WebBuilder 451" <We***********@ discussions.mic rosoft.com> wrote in message
news:B1******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
>I really hope i get an answer to this one!
> At the roll-out of 2.0 ,and before, a lot of emphisis was placed on 2.0
> being very friendly to the non-programmer. It was said over and over that
> CRUD opperations could be performed with little or no vb programming
> meaning
> that a lot of the work necessary for the simple opperations such as
> writting
> the CRUD opperations for a table that contains values intended to fill
> drop
> down lists or combo boxes can be done by a non-programmer. This would
> leave
> the more complicated items to a higher level developer.
>
> Well here is the challange: Is there a book intended for the
> non-programmer?
> My wife can do light Coldfusion opperations now, but she wants to do the
> same
> for dot net 2.0 sites, but she can't find a good resource intended
> fordesigners like herself.. She does not need to learn about creating
> controls as is found in the step by step for asp.net 2.0 book. She needs a
> step by step for creating simple gridviews, formviews, detailviews, and
> drop
> downs, but it needs to be geared for a person who has never been a
> programmer.
>
>
> --
> thanks (as always)
> some day i''m gona pay this forum back for all the help i''m getting
> kes


May 11 '06 #4
Thanks for responding
only if they are programmers or aspireing ones. NOT HTML designers.
Couldn't disagree more. The book learn in 21 day is the choice.
--
thanks (as always)
some day i''m gona pay this forum back for all the help i''m getting
kes
"Juan T. Llibre" wrote:
I find that running the samples, and going over the source code in them,
in the ASP.NET QuickStarts helps beginners...a lot.

For 1.0 : http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickst...uickstart.aspx
For 1.1 : http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/aspplus/
For 2.0 : http://asp.net/quickstart/aspnet/Default.aspx

You can install them locally by installing the appropiate .Net Framework SDK :

For 1.1 :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

For 2.0 :
http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...s/default.aspx


Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
=============== =============== =====
"WebBuilder 451" <We***********@ discussions.mic rosoft.com> wrote in message
news:B3******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
Thanks, We'll check it out. I have the SQL cook book for cross platform query
translation and it does start out with simple queries, so if the asp.net book
is similar it should work!

--
thanks (as always)
some day i''m gona pay this forum back for all the help i''m getting
kes
"John Timney ( MVP )" wrote:
To do asp.net 2.0 you do not have to do much programming, and tools like
vs.net and visual web developer make life simpler for people looking to do
CRUD - but you do have to understand the object model and the events of
those objects to understand how to do design well with the framework.

I would take a look at some of the cookbooks, they explain a lot - probably
more than your wife might wish to learn but that extra knowledge will help
her in here design goals. O'Reilly asp.net 2.0 Cookbook is one I refer to
often.

--
Regards

John Timney
Microsoft MVP

"WebBuilder 451" <We***********@ discussions.mic rosoft.com> wrote in message
news:B1******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
>I really hope i get an answer to this one!
> At the roll-out of 2.0 ,and before, a lot of emphisis was placed on 2.0
> being very friendly to the non-programmer. It was said over and over that
> CRUD opperations could be performed with little or no vb programming
> meaning
> that a lot of the work necessary for the simple opperations such as
> writting
> the CRUD opperations for a table that contains values intended to fill
> drop
> down lists or combo boxes can be done by a non-programmer. This would
> leave
> the more complicated items to a higher level developer.
>
> Well here is the challange: Is there a book intended for the
> non-programmer?
> My wife can do light Coldfusion opperations now, but she wants to do the
> same
> for dot net 2.0 sites, but she can't find a good resource intended
> fordesigners like herself.. She does not need to learn about creating
> controls as is found in the step by step for asp.net 2.0 book. She needs a
> step by step for creating simple gridviews, formviews, detailviews, and
> drop
> downs, but it needs to be geared for a person who has never been a
> programmer.
>
>
> --
> thanks (as always)
> some day i''m gona pay this forum back for all the help i''m getting
> kes


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