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Backup while mdb is open

How safe is it to back up a single user mdb when it is opened. No tables are
opened at the time of the backup. The only object that is open is the form
from which the backup code is being run.
Thanks in advance,
john
Sep 16 '06 #1
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"No tables are opened"
should be
"No tables are open"

"john" <jo**@test.coms chreef in bericht
news:7J******** ************@ca sema.nl...
How safe is it to back up a single user mdb when it is opened. No tables
are opened at the time of the backup. The only object that is open is the
form from which the backup code is being run.
Thanks in advance,
john

Sep 16 '06 #2
john wrote:
"No tables are opened"
should be
"No tables are open"
As long as your backup software doesn't skip files that are open it
should be fine.

I have read stories in the past about people backing up data for a year
and the backup software, in the entire time, skipped the file(s) because
it was open. Then they deleted all of the records to reset for the new
year and then ask "Can I get my deleted tables back?

I've seen backup software that looks like it's backing up the files but
in reality its simply scanning the files to see what to backup. So the
user needs to restore a backuped up file and verify the tape's not blank.

Best thing to do is attempt to save it. Next, after the save attempt to
restore to another folder. Also, ensure you don't set your medium to
"no write" after a backup and you want to reuse the medium at a later time.
>
"john" <jo**@test.coms chreef in bericht
news:7J******** ************@ca sema.nl...
>>How safe is it to back up a single user mdb when it is opened. No tables
are opened at the time of the backup. The only object that is open is the
form from which the backup code is being run.
Thanks in advance,
john


Sep 17 '06 #3
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:53:02 +0200, "john" <jo**@test.comw rote:

That seems pretty safe. The danger with backing up Access databases is
that at the moment of backup they could be written to, creating an
inconsistent backup. A very small chance, but would you want to take
it?
If you are SURE no activity is going on, you have my blessing FWIW.

-Tom.

>How safe is it to back up a single user mdb when it is opened. No tables are
opened at the time of the backup. The only object that is open is the form
from which the backup code is being run.
Thanks in advance,
john
Sep 17 '06 #4
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:53:02 +0200, "john" <jo**@test.comw rote:
>How safe is it to back up a single user mdb when it is opened. No tables are
opened at the time of the backup. The only object that is open is the form
from which the backup code is being run.
Thanks in advance,
john
You've seen the other posts. Why take chances. Write a simple batch file
independent of the database that does the backup while the database is closed.

Chuck
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Sep 17 '06 #5
Chuck <li*****@school link.netwrote in
news:nk******** *************** *********@4ax.c om:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:53:02 +0200, "john" <jo**@test.comw rote:
>>How safe is it to back up a single user mdb when it is opened. No
tables are opened at the time of the backup. The only object that
is open is the form from which the backup code is being run.
Thanks in advance,
john
You've seen the other posts. Why take chances. Write a simple
batch file independent of the database that does the backup while
the database is closed.
How does Lyle's SaveAsText trick do? Has anyone tested it in the
edit condition to see what it backs up?

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
Sep 17 '06 #6
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:01:18 -0500, "David W. Fenton"
<XX*******@dfen ton.com.invalid wrote:

SaveAsText does not backup tables.
-Tom.

>Chuck <li*****@school link.netwrote in
news:nk******* *************** **********@4ax. com:
>On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:53:02 +0200, "john" <jo**@test.comw rote:
>>>How safe is it to back up a single user mdb when it is opened. No
tables are opened at the time of the backup. The only object that
is open is the form from which the backup code is being run.
Thanks in advance,
john
You've seen the other posts. Why take chances. Write a simple
batch file independent of the database that does the backup while
the database is closed.

How does Lyle's SaveAsText trick do? Has anyone tested it in the
edit condition to see what it backs up?
Sep 18 '06 #7
Tom van Stiphout wrote:
SaveAsText does not backup tables.
Yes, it does.

Try:

SaveAsText 6, "", FileName

Sep 18 '06 #8
http://www.mvps.org/access/downloads/wzbackup.zip

Just tried it by putting a record into edit mode, it still saved the table
but (fairly obviously) with the original value for the field I was editing.

--

Terry Kreft
"David W. Fenton" <XX*******@dfen ton.com.invalid wrote in message
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Chuck <li*****@school link.netwrote in
news:nk******** *************** *********@4ax.c om:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:53:02 +0200, "john" <jo**@test.comw rote:
>How safe is it to back up a single user mdb when it is opened. No
tables are opened at the time of the backup. The only object that
is open is the form from which the backup code is being run.
Thanks in advance,
john
You've seen the other posts. Why take chances. Write a simple
batch file independent of the database that does the backup while
the database is closed.

How does Lyle's SaveAsText trick do? Has anyone tested it in the
edit condition to see what it backs up?

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

Sep 18 '06 #9
Tom van Stiphout <no************ *@cox.netwrote in
news:f8******** *************** *********@4ax.c om:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:01:18 -0500, "David W. Fenton"
<XX*******@dfe nton.com.invali dwrote:
>>Chuck <li*****@school link.netwrote in
news:nk****** *************** ***********@4ax .com:
>>On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:53:02 +0200, "john" <jo**@test.co m>
wrote:

How safe is it to back up a single user mdb when it is opened.
No tables are opened at the time of the backup. The only object
that is open is the form from which the backup code is being
run. Thanks in advance,
john

You've seen the other posts. Why take chances. Write a simple
batch file independent of the database that does the backup
while the database is closed.

How does Lyle's SaveAsText trick do? Has anyone tested it in the
edit condition to see what it backs up?

SaveAsText does not backup tables.
Um, have you tried SaveAsText 6, the trick that Lyle came up with?

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
Sep 18 '06 #10

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